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10-07-2015, 09:51 PM | #1 |
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Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
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I bought new glass and a roll of glass setting tape from Classicparts.com . I removed my old windows and cleaned up the channels and today I tried to install the new glass. I have to tell you that it was an extremely frustrating experience. I could get one end to start if I started hitting it on the end. When I tried to start by hitting it in the middle of the channel, I got no where. I didnt break the glass or get injured but thats the only good thing that I can say. Ive searched the forum and other sites but I found no real useful information. One person did mention soaking the tape in a solvent first. I had never heard of the solvent so I didnt try that. On to adhesives... I have read about some people using RTV but others say not to for some reason. At this point, it RTV or Urethane. What about construction adhesive? Anyone ever try that? I have a few tubes of loctite laying around and its cheaper than Window Weld (urethane). Any thoughts? |
10-07-2015, 10:03 PM | #2 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
I'll probably get slammed for this but I used Permatex Ultra Black (in the pressurized bottle with the trigger) when mine popped out of that channel. Just didn't have anything else at the time and I really needed to get the door back together. It was a breeze to install and while maybe not the right thing to use but it has held up for over 2 years.
I kind of cringed when you said you were hitting the channel on. My luck would be a pile of glass if I did that.
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10-08-2015, 08:46 AM | #3 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
You have the correct parts, and had the right idea. What has worked for me in the past is to warm up the glass setting tape with a heat gun or hair dryer, then using electrical tape fold the glass setting tape over the edge of the glass that goes into the channel then tape it to the glass. I then use a soapy water solution and mist the glass setting tape, then proceed to install the glass channel onto the glass using a rubber mallet. I have a couple of layers of cardboard on the working surface to protect the glass. I also have had to use a wooden dowel, or hardwood stick of some kind to hit the center of the channel so I wouldn't bend the roller section. By warming the setting tape it softens it to conform to the glass, then by lubing the setting tape make the channel install easier. Hope this helps.
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10-08-2015, 08:50 AM | #4 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
My situation may have been a little different then yours, because my glass came loose from the sash. It was the first time I installed any glass but here's what worked:
Roll the regulator down to it's lowest point Got the window positioned in the side channels Pushed window up to the closed position, taped it to top of the door Wind the regulator back up about 1/2-3/4 closed installed the set tape into the sash Remove the tape holding the window closed and slid it down to the sash Once I made sure the glass was positioned in the sash as it should be, I wound the window up all the way left over night. Trimmed excess tape that stuck to the window Hope it helps, Pappyx4!
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10-08-2015, 01:08 PM | #5 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
I have never used this brand of setting tape. Probably too late to compare thickness to the original . Years ago we had an old timer that cut and installed glass for overy 30 years. He had about 4 different thickness of setting tape. Some great ideas by previous posts. Good luck
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10-08-2015, 01:20 PM | #6 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
Similar question. I am actually window welding my windows to the channel. What is the best way to install this? Can the window channel and the track channel still be combined and installed with the window glued in? Tried to get the screw out but one is stripped. If i can easily put it together all at once I wont worry about separating them.? hopefully that makes sense. I dont want to glue it while in place. trying to keep mess at a minimum.
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
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That window weld is pretty messy. I wouldnt even consider trying to glue it in place! You need to install the window in the channel and leave the bottom piece of the channel attached, before you put it in the door. There are instruction for installing the window(with channel) in the door, online. If you need instructions, I'll be glad to type them. Installation isnt hard. Just take your time and you will probably need to pull the door apart slightly to get the channel in without scratching paint. You will need to rotate the window clockwise until the channel is vertical and next to the window to lower it into the door. My screws were stripped too. I got them out but I can't find new ones so far. Anyone know where to get the screws for the bottom of the channel. |
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10-08-2015, 09:57 PM | #8 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
Thanks for the posts. Heating the tape sounded like a good idea. Maybe my tape was too thick.
I was ordering windows from classicparts.com and I saw the tape with a vague description. It was something like - used to set windows in channels. For future searchers, I would advise you not to buy their window tape. If you are going to buy it, I would research it a little. It wasn't really expensive, but I hate throwing away money for nothing but frustration. Plus, my windows should have been done last night. The 3M Window Weld, which is what I used to set my vent windows, is expensive but it forms an incredible bond. With the adhesive, I installed the windows ina few minutes with little effort. Thanks |
10-09-2015, 12:11 PM | #9 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
This post is making me feel very anxious about replacing my window regulators and seals..
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10-09-2015, 12:24 PM | #10 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
You are correct the setting tape does come in different thicknesses. If anyone else is looking at setting glass into a metal channel I would suggest finding a local Automotive Glass Replacement shop and ask if they would have any of this material. The setting tape is available from C.R Lawrence, but it is in a large roll.
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10-09-2015, 12:38 PM | #11 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
Everything went smooth... except the vent glass... a few issues and I will have to most likely pull it and redo it. Keeping the window track attached to the regulator slide track was the way to go.
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06-23-2019, 06:47 PM | #12 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
I bought some parts from LMC to do my window, and what they sent me was called rubber insulating material, you guys say tape, like it has adhesive on it? my glass just pulled away from the channel trying to roll down the window today. Trying to figure out how to do it right!
Forgot to mention, it's a 72 Sierra Grande.
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06-24-2019, 10:10 AM | #13 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
You never said what year, but on the 60-62 the frame is held onto the lower channel with 4 screws. I decided to simply bring the frame, glass, settign tape and screws to a auto window shop and paid them $25.00 to set the glass.,
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=718048
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06-24-2019, 10:25 AM | #14 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
I edited my original post. It's a 72 Sierra Grande.
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06-24-2019, 01:11 PM | #15 |
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Re: Attaching New Side Glass to Window Channel
I found this on Chevy talk. Read down until you find the poster that worked in the glass shop. It pretty much mimicks what the old timers procedure that did our glass. Good luck.
https://www.chevytalk.org/fusionbb/s...php?tid/278007 |
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