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11-03-2021, 07:48 PM | #1 |
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Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
I recently upgraded my 1970 C10 to power steering which required the notching of the driver's side outer bumper brace. According to what I found on the forum, this is common and due to the fact that my truck originally came with manual steering.
Today I decided to see if there is actually a specific driver's side outer brace for power steering equipped trucks. According to the 65-75 Chevrolet Pickup Parts Catalog there is only one part # for 69-70 LEFT Front Bumper Brace and one part # for 71-72 LEFT Front Bumper Brace. I checked vendor's sites and I couldn't find one that specifies a special set of front bumper braces for C/10's with power steering. However, LMC states "A slight modification may be necessary when installed on models with power steering" on all of their LEFT side front bumper braces, 2wd or 4wd. During my research in the forum I found the following solutions, notching of the driver's side outer brace, make sure that you have the the left and right side braces on their respective side (no notch required), "I didn't have any problems using my factory brackets". So, no clear answer. Also, I couldn't find anyone posting pictures of the difference between a manual brace and a power steering one. I couldn't even find someone selling a set of "power steering" front bumper braces. However, I did find several threads with front bumper brackets for sale, some even had people asking if they would work "without modification" for a power steering truck. None of the sellers knew for sure. Anybody know the answer to this? I'd like to replace my notched brace with a correct power steering compatible one if one's available. |
11-03-2021, 08:30 PM | #2 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
i am wondering if the difference is as simple as using a 71-72 bracket on older models . anyone have pics of both ?
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11-03-2021, 09:07 PM | #3 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
I thought the same thing. That’s why I was surprised to see that the 71-72 LEFT brace “may require modification” according to LMC. Also, looking at the pictures on LMC, it looked like the putter bumper bolts on the 71-72 bumper, are located closer to the outer edges of the bumper. Which makes me think they wouldn’t line up with the holes in a 69-70 front bumper.
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11-03-2021, 09:30 PM | #4 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
I ground a notch into the driver side brace, in order to clear the Powere Steering box, when I did the conversion. I know it’s not factory spec, but my truck is nowhere a show truck
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11-03-2021, 09:35 PM | #5 |
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I hear ya. Most people seem to go that route. I did too but I’m trying to find a definitive answer as to whether or not a correct, power steering compatible, brace exists.
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11-04-2021, 12:22 AM | #6 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
I don't know the answer to your question, but here is a picture of the original braces on my '69. I don't see anything there I'd refer to as notches. However, the left brace does appear to have the top (in the picture) edge folded back. I'll take a look at the reassembled truck tomorrow.
EDIT: I'm not sure the left brace is original since some idiot backed into the left front of the truck at about 20 MPH in 1972. The bumper, fender and hood had to be replaced. I'd bet the brace also needed replacement. I think I probably still have the repair invoice, but I can't check for it until next week..
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11-04-2021, 12:33 AM | #7 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
Here's an NOS 67-70 driver side bracket I bought thinking it would fit without being cut. I was wrong. The frame end (has the round hole, not a slot) doesn't look the same as FirstOwner69's.
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11-04-2021, 01:04 AM | #8 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
Thanks for the pics guys.
Jim, prior to me creating this thread, I had run across another thread in which you had posted that same picture http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...28&postcount=2. You were one of the few people that said you didn't have fitment issues with your original braces. Was your truck originally equipped with power steering or did you add it at a later date. Supposedly, trucks that came from the factory had driver's side outer bumper braces that were able to clear the power steering gear without notching. I find it odd that the Parts Catalog doesn't mention something like "except pwr steering" or "w/ pwr steering" when referring to these braces and that there aren't multiple part #'s for the 69-70 trucks. Jim, your left and right brackets appear to be different shapes. The aftermarket braces seem to be mirror images of each other. See pic below |
11-04-2021, 01:13 AM | #9 |
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Here's what the parts manual shows.
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11-04-2021, 11:09 AM | #10 |
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Some times to save money the factory will just list the one part if it fits both applications. I.E. only sell the power steering brace because it will fit non power steering trucks. By not having to stock a non power steering brace it saves a lot of money.
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Just trying to see if a correct part exists so I can replace my modified brace. Would be nice to be able to identify the correct brace on sight. Also, i don’t want to buy an aftermarket set if I’m going to have to modify it anyway. |
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11-04-2021, 02:20 PM | #12 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
Take a look at the photo in post #4 of this thread.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=780619 The bracket at the top of the photo looks like FirstOwner69's bracket. I suspect that's a power steering-specific 68-70 2WD bracket. Last edited by pjmoreland; 11-04-2021 at 06:11 PM. |
11-04-2021, 03:46 PM | #13 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
Yep, I think you're correct. Assuming FirstOwner69's truck originally came with power steering.
Good catch. Wonder what the difference between 69-70 and 71-72 brackets are. Seems like the 71-72 brackets look "flatter" like the top one in the pic you mentioned. |
11-04-2021, 03:47 PM | #14 |
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I think the 71-72 brackets are longer to avoid the turn signals in the bumper.
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11-04-2021, 05:12 PM | #15 |
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I agree that the 71-72 outer brackets must be longer. Here's a comparison of 67, 70, 71 & 72 front ends. Notice the 67 and 70 outer bumper bolts are centered under the headlights but the 71 & 72 outer bolts are farther apart.
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Here's a picture of it installed that shows about 1/8" clearance..
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11-04-2021, 07:21 PM | #17 |
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Thanks for confirming that your truck was always pwr steering.
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11-05-2021, 03:23 AM | #18 |
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Re: Is There Actually a Correct Driver's Side Front Bumper Brace For Power Steering?
Glad I looked at this thread!
Previous owner put an aftermarket painted bumper on my 68 C10, and never installed the outer braces, but gave them to me in a pile of parts. Well when I went to install them I realized they were too short and wouldn't fit but never knew why (its like they would have need a 1" spacer block on the frame to attach). Clearly the PO must have installed an aftermarket later year bumper with the wider spacing and that is why the outer bumper braces don't fit. I guess I need to find me a set of the 71+ braces now! |
11-05-2021, 09:22 PM | #19 |
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I found one of these power steering brackets locally today, and installed it. It is 20-1/2" long and has a "P" stamped in it. I wonder if that stands for "Power." It fit just right. The second photo below is next to the left NOS bracket I notched. Thank you for starting this thread. This issue has been bugging me for a while!
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11-05-2021, 09:58 PM | #20 |
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Wow! Congrats on finding the correct bracket. Was it on a truck or had someone already removed it. Do you know what vehicle it came from?
Thanks for sharing the measurements, the “P” infor and the pictures. |
11-05-2021, 10:04 PM | #21 |
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I bought it from a guy who had a collection of brackets that he had already removed from trucks, so I have no idea what truck it came from. It obviously had power steering though, because the bracket was caked with power steering fluid and dirt.
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