47-55.1 Need inner fender attachment info

[51 3600]

I had the floor and toe board on my ‘51 3600 replaced a few years ago and no longer have the three holes on each side for attaching the inner fenders to the toe board. Wondering if anyone can give me some dimensions or guides to locate those holes. Don’t trust just holding the inner fenders against the toe board without some idea of its proper location. Any help would be welcome.

[mr48chev]

Unless someone can come up with a better Idea I can run out, trace the kick boards on some stiff paper and mail the patterns to you in the morning.

I've got a 51 1-1/2 ton cab and a 49 3100 cab within real easy reach.

BRB.

[mr48chev]

Mine are in pretty bad shape to get accurate measurements

You might be better off to bolt the front end on, mark the holes with the inner fenders and park brake bracket and drill the holes unless someone has far better foot boards than I do.

[51 3600]

Unfortunately outer cowl sides and inner corner pieces are tacked in place waiting for front clip to be attached before permanently locating and welding in place. Also no parking brake bracket. (I’m really not intentionally trying to make this more difficult.) Template would be great if someone could do that.

[joedoh]

do you still have the ebrake bracket for the drivers side? the inner is about an inch short of the toe board without it.

[51 3600]

I’ll have to check tomorrow to see if I have that bracket. Don’t even remember what it looks like so will first have to find a pic of what I’m looking for.
I don’t understand this: “the inner is about an inch short of the toe board without it.”

[joedoh]

the inner fender does not bolt to the toe board on a 1/2 ton (and 3/4 and 1 ton). it bolts to the E brake BRACKET and that bracket bolts to the toe board. if you are missing the bracket, the inner fender will not touch the toe board. there will be a little more than an inch gap.

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by joedoh

the inner fender does not bolt to the toe board on a 1/2 ton (and 3/4 and 1 ton). it bolts to the E brake BRACKET and that bracket bolts to the toe board. if you are missing the bracket, the inner fender will not touch the toe board. there will be a little more than an inch gap.

I did away with extra brackets and I was still able to bolt up the stock inner fenders to the toe boards. It was not too bad. Just use long enough bolts to pull the two pieces together. Once tight you can go back thru, one by one and use shorter bolts.

Thanks
Marc

[joedoh]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

I did away with extra brackets and I was still able to bolt up the stock inner fenders to the toe boards. It was not too bad. Just use long enough bolts to pull the two pieces together. Once tight you can go back thru, one by one and use shorter bolts.

Thanks
Marc

i wonder where the extra inch came from? stretch?

[51 3600]

Originally Posted by joedoh

the inner fender does not bolt to the toe board on a 1/2 ton (and 3/4 and 1 ton). it bolts to the E brake BRACKET and that bracket bolts to the toe board. if you are missing the bracket, the inner fender will not touch the toe board. there will be a little more than an inch gap.

Originally Posted by youngrodder

I did away with extra brackets and I was still able to bolt up the stock inner fenders to the toe boards. It was not too bad. Just use long enough bolts to pull the two pieces together. Once tight you can go back thru, one by one and use shorter bolts.

Thanks
Marc

Originally Posted by joedoh

i wonder where the extra inch came from? stretch?

I don't have that brake bracket so trying to work from these posts. First bad news, looks like I need some type of spacer. But then good news, maybe not. Then it's "riddle me this".
So I went to the garage where I have my radiator support/inner fender assembly I rescued from storage today and did some measuring. Yep, driver side is shorter than passenger side. Never would have thought that. Exact amount I can't tell without locating that assy on the frame but it appears to be more than an inch.
Could make a spacer but I guess better solution is to locate a E brake bracket. Still need dimensions or template to locate holes correctly.
Thanks all for the help and education. Most helpful.

[mr48chev]

As Joedoe said, the drivers side inner fender won't bolt on unless you have the park brake bracket. The exception might be a 47 inner fender or one off a 47/48 1 ton that had the transmission mounted park brake.

This is the bracket.

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by 51 3600

I don't have that brake bracket so trying to work from these posts. First bad news, looks like I need some type of spacer. But then good news, maybe not. Then it's "riddle me this".
So I went to the garage where I have my radiator support/inner fender assembly I rescued from storage today and did some measuring. Yep, driver side is shorter than passenger side. Never would have thought that. Exact amount I can't tell without locating that assy on the frame but it appears to be more than an inch.
Could make a spacer but I guess better solution is to locate a E brake bracket. Still need dimensions or template to locate holes correctly.
Thanks all for the help and education. Most helpful.

It can be done without the bracket. The bracket would no doubt make it easier but I can be done. I will snap a picture as poof. I explained what I did above. It has worked well for the 3,000 road miles to date.

Marc

[51 3600]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

It can be done without the bracket. The bracket would no doubt make it easier but I can be done. I will snap a picture as poof. I explained what I did above. It has worked well for the 3,000 road miles to date.

Marc

I have no doubt you accomplished it, I just have a hard time understanding what happened to that inch and how pulling the inner fender tight to the toe board didn’t affect the fender fit as well as the overall front clip fit. Pic would help me.

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by 51 3600

I have no doubt you accomplished it, I just have a hard time understanding what happened to that inch and how pulling the inner fender tight to the toe board didn’t affect the fender fit as well as the overall front clip fit. Pic would help me.

Basically the trailing edge of the inner fender is just pull toward the toe board (as the bolts are tightened). The actual position the inner fender does not change. All fender to inner fender bolt holes lined up fine.

Again the best way is probable to use the brace but I did not have one plus I like less clutter and "extra" stuff.

Marc

[51 3600]

And that didn’t affect how your fenders fit on the cowl side or pull your radiator support back or how the hood fit? No other alterations or adjustments? That’s a head scratcher for me.

[joedoh]

if marc says it works i would probably try it, you dont have any holes now so it wont matter where you put them haha

[mr48chev]

I've got to pull the one on my parts cab off some time anyhow so i if the rain stops I'll see if I can get it off and get some photos today. if you aren't hanging the park brake off it all you need is something like a piece of light square tubing for a spacer.

[51 3600]

Originally Posted by joedoh

if marc says it works i would probably try it, you dont have any holes now so it wont matter where you put them haha

That is very true. Plus with my skills I’ll end up with more holes than I need!

Originally Posted by mr48chev

I've got to pull the one on my parts cab off some time anyhow so i if the rain stops I'll see if I can get it off and get some photos today. if you aren't hanging the park brake off it all you need is something like a piece of light square tubing for a spacer.

Pics always helpful. Don’t need the e-brake bracket so guess I’ll try marc’s method. If I can’t get that to work I’ll put a tube spacer in.

[mr48chev]

There is quite a bit of difference in the angle between the back of the inner fender and the foot board.

My tubing idea won't work but if you fabbed a spacer it doesn't have to match the original bracket it just has to space the inner fender off the foot board.

[mr48chev]

I made a Photobucket album of the bracket and the park brake pedal mechanism.
I'll probably stick some more photos in it before all is said and done to have for when someone asks a question on that setup.
https://photobucket.com/u/mr48chev/a...d-f8458bdef325

[51 3600]

Originally Posted by mr48chev

I made a Photobucket album of the bracket and the park brake pedal mechanism.
I'll probably stick some more photos in it before all is said and done to have for when someone asks a question on that setup.
https://photobucket.com/u/mr48chev/a...d-f8458bdef325

Thanks for taking the time to photograph and share those pics. They are a great help. At the risk of being greedy can I ask a favor for dimensions per the below pics? That would help me tremendously in figuring out where to drill holes. (I'm good at measuring but not so good at estimating/guessing.) Is it fair to assume the passenger side holes would be in mirrored locations?

2 dimensions


3 dimensions