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07-09-2022, 10:14 PM | #1 |
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Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
As some of you guys know (or forgot, as I am not on here often) I have a 49 Studebaker 1 ton with dump bed. I swapped in the engine and trans from a 1972 C60. Problem is the trans is a NP542L, meaning I have no OD. With the factory (Studebaker) 6.66:1 rear I am screaming at 4200 rpm at 60 MPH on the highway. Frankly, I don't drive often on the highway, but would be nice to have EITHER of the following:
1. NV4500 OD trans, which, I believe is a direct bolt in. One inch input shaft and same length; OR 2. Complete dually rear axle assembly with drum brakes with a 4.10 ratio. I believe the 6.5 Diesel 3500HD manual trans trucks from the mid 90's had both of those. I would prefer to do the transmission swap. If I swap rears, I will also need four wheels for the rear, as the bolt pattern is different. Also, I know some guys hate them, but I really want to keep my 17" split rims. Any gurus on here that can tell me which years of 3500HD dually trucks came with the above trans and rear? Any help greatly appreciated. |
07-10-2022, 09:18 AM | #2 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
I love that Studebaker. I'm no expert on the 3500HD. I have a neighbor who runs one daily and he's quite the wrench. He ran another for years before he got this one. and that first one was one of a couple the lumber recycle company he does all the fixing for ran. If no other help comes along, I can bug him. I've owned two K3500 single rears with the NV4500, a '92 and a '95. I do know those two are the same series and I'm pretty sure the listing changed in '96. I went through the dual mass flywheel to solid conversion on both. I've venture to say that the NV4500 was available throughout the entire GMT400 3500HD model run. I know it started in '92 and assume it ended in '00. Could be maybe one more year
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07-10-2022, 10:20 AM | #3 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
Thanks. Hopefully someone chimes in.
I THINK that the NV4500 has at least two versions, and only the ones behind the diesel have the larger one inch input shaft. I have a buddy in the used car business, and he has access to a massive salvage pool. He says if I can narrow down exactly what years/options, he can find me a complete wrecked truck pretty easily. I just don't want to end up dragging the wrong truck home. |
07-10-2022, 12:29 PM | #4 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
I hear you. Ready to pounce but need to know which direction first. Both of mine were 6.5TDs, same as my neighbor's trucks
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07-10-2022, 12:33 PM | #5 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
And did both of yours have the 4.10 rear and the OD five speed?
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07-10-2022, 06:57 PM | #6 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
Heres all the info you could ever want. They made those 3500hd up until 2002 and could be had with the new 8.1l big block and Allison 5 speed or nv4500
https://www.tradecraftspecialties.com/3500hd#Topic6
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07-10-2022, 07:43 PM | #7 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
Thanks.
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07-10-2022, 09:55 PM | #8 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
Both had NV4500. The '92 had 4.10 and the '95 had 3.73s. I liked the 4.10s better for getting going. Both trucks ran 285/75-16s, about 32.5" dia. As I recall, the 4.10 truck I would run at 72 mph on the interstate back when the speed limit was still 55. In 5th it would still back right down to there when I spotted a trooper taking pictures. No brake lights. It seemed like an ideal set-up. I ran that truck 22 years. Loved it.
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07-11-2022, 09:30 PM | #9 |
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Re: Need an expert on 90s 3500hd dually trucks
I have a '50 Studebaker R16 with 5.9 Cummins and NV5600. I was running the original Timken rear with 6.66 ratio and 8.25x20 tires. Although the rear axle looks beefy and designed to haul heavy loads, once taken apart, it was obvious the carrier was only designed to handle the 106HP of the flathead 6 the truck was equiped with new. I replaced the rear with a Spicer S130 out of a F550. The big hydraulic disc brakes was a nice improvement also. Good luck with your project.
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