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08-19-2024, 08:28 PM | #1 |
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Could This Be The New Norm?
Interstate 80 going over the Sierras from Sacramento to Reno has been shutdown since about 5am this morning because of a Tesla Semi Truck fire that evidently has mushroomed into a hazardous waste crisis and isn't expected to open until 8 am tomorrow morning.
Just wondering what our future holds for highway shut downs like this. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/el...ia/ar-AA1p3AyB |
08-19-2024, 09:03 PM | #2 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
That's crazy. I wonder where the helicopter footage is.
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08-20-2024, 01:52 AM | #3 |
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08-20-2024, 07:45 AM | #4 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
Someone in a fire department a while back posted up some info regarding the fire fighting difference between a fuel powered car and an ev. As I remember it takes several thousand gallons more water and man hours to put the ev fire out. I would imagine those e semi trucks would be even more so. Tow companies are advised to store them well away from other vehicles or structures as well.
You know as much of a pia as evs can be, they will only get better with continued "real world" service to help work out the bugs. In my mind, they aren't fully practical just yet. I certainly would not park one in my garage or near my house or business yet.
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08-20-2024, 09:12 AM | #5 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
Interesting read...https://www.alsym.com/blog/expert-re...vehicle-fires/
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08-20-2024, 12:32 PM | #6 | |
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. Go to the 4 minute mark in the video posted by 71CHEVYSHORTBED402. It's not spectacular but does show the FD putting water on the fire and how they're shipping the water in. This is a big problem with all the ev (non-tractor-rig) cars/trucks already...adding these big rigs to the mix will exacerbate the issues. One of these fires can destroy a flat bed tow bed if it burns while loaded. They can destroy adjacent property when they burn too. I don't think an easy/practical solution will be found. Currently those dealing with this stuff are using thermal blankets to mitigate the damage caused by very long and hot burning battery cells...a bandaid at best. -Kevin
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08-20-2024, 07:40 PM | #7 |
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I saw that clip, but it was kind of lame. The thing seemed to be mostly over by the time the helicopter got there. I was looking for some great big Tesla flames.
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08-20-2024, 10:32 PM | #8 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
Just wait until the electric airplanes hit the sky. I've already seen a video of one catching on fire just sitting out front of a hanger.
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08-21-2024, 12:33 AM | #9 | |
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A battery can experience this at anytime really, if any part of the cooling system fails, it can trigger the cells. If the battery pack leaks in oxygen it can also start the runaway process. Lithium itself will react to moisture and atmosphere which can trigger the runaway. Think of you old chem class with sodium and water. Similar thing but more reactive. So if a battery pack is cracked or not fully sealed it could and probably will go off. I think that is part of the reason most EVs now are written off on a simple fender bender because no one wants to touch it due to it be a fire waiting to happen at any moment.
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08-21-2024, 06:19 AM | #10 |
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As mentioned, the cells don't need outside air to combust. Further complicated by the fact that most battery packs are well constructed to keep outside stuff out(the fire fighting water) and the battery stuff inside. Kind of like trying to put out a fire in a locked gun safe by spraying water on the outside. Most of the water is wasted. Plus the by products of a battery fire are often hazardous and need further special treatment. Not just EVs. Several times a year you will hear about someone's laptop, game device, phone, etc spewing smoke on an airplane with the resulting concern. If they are still on the tarmac, the corrective is often tossing the bag out the door.
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08-21-2024, 11:07 AM | #11 | |
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Here ya go... https://youtu.be/AWi7AeZaNcI?si=Tvbzg4aWU5R8aIt5 https://youtu.be/VCsiVTnrUjQ?si=vOTqW_mlrVKGNsq9 https://youtu.be/ogfCHycGN5U?si=7J_Ao18fnSkzWN5B https://youtube.com/shorts/uVSZ7KMJK...HlznYI3iyEe4OW https://youtu.be/72y6imzcHSQ?si=UbCmEOvWvSWanEJK https://youtu.be/6zAhwiQ95Wg?si=Frh5iSmpFczIG6gW https://youtu.be/2UAAnD3ydLE?si=_a-pWj-fF84tJY1g https://youtu.be/Q8wi9Ee_2Oo?si=WJyrA8q-a3YT-gIP -Kevin
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08-21-2024, 01:05 PM | #12 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
Oh, look! ANOTHER flamin' Tesla!
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08-21-2024, 01:48 PM | #13 |
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I hear they're really hot right now.
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08-21-2024, 06:24 PM | #14 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
Guy on the facebook truck forum posted how his 88-98 just randomly caught fire while sitting outside.
Several other people talked about how their vehicles have also caught fire while not being used. None were electric. crap happens.
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08-21-2024, 07:13 PM | #15 |
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Guess I'm mostly done worrying about a gas tank sitting behind me in my truck cab.
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08-22-2024, 12:22 AM | #16 |
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To follow up on this situation they interviewed a Cal Fire Official on the news today and Cal Fire is voicing concerns over these fires, mainly they have no way of extinguishing them and the toxins they spew over a wide area as a hazard to other motorist especially having a concern if the motorist are trapped in a collision.
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08-22-2024, 08:12 AM | #17 |
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Re: Could This Be The New Norm?
But I’m sure the fires cause was electrical . Simple fire extinguishers will put them out an EV fire not so much .
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