My 83' Crew Cab Dually project

[travlinman]

Tan! I'm switching my interior over to tan. I like the door panels is that just standard suede fabric or backed with a foam or padding? I got a few yards of foam backed suede for my headliner. I'd like to do my doors now too.

[DblTrbl]

Originally Posted by travlinman

Tan! I'm switching my interior over to tan. I like the door panels is that just standard suede fabric or backed with a foam or padding? I got a few yards of foam backed suede for my headliner. I'd like to do my doors now too.

It's a suede upholstery fabric; not foam backed. I used a 3/8" closed cell foam for the shapes. It's normally used for landau tops and is considerably more rigid than regular, open cell foam.

[drivewaycustoms]

Looks good. What dye are you using?

[DblTrbl]

Originally Posted by drivewaycustoms

Looks good. What dye are you using?

It's made by SEM. For what it's worth, they all appear to be the same stuff. I've used the duplicolor as well on other projects and it works just as well. The trick to get it to soak/hold better is to not just clean the surface, but wipe it all down with a multi purpose solvent prior to application.

[DblTrbl]

Tackled the dash today. I'd considered swapping to another dash, but the doorpanels turned out so well, I figured I'd take a stab at this too.







Neighbors kid kept sneaking food out of his kitchen and bringing it over to me...his mom wasn't pleased...lol. He's my biggest fan.


This literally took me all day...finally got it all back together right as it got dark.

[COS399]

looks awesome. Nice work.

[daddyjeep]

Very cool. I have a thing for flames. Most I see, I really don't like, but yours look good.

[DblTrbl]

Originally Posted by daddyjeep

Very cool. I have a thing for flames. Most I see, I really don't like, but yours look good.

Thanks. That means a lot because I'm really not much good at drawing them and I couldn't do them the way that I wanted due to all of the damage that I had to cover. The headliner is next once my sound deadening shows up.

I spent some time attempting to wrap some of the interior cladding in suede. It didn't go well. I finally just dyed it to match the rest. Then I fabbed up some brackets to mount the buckets. I got the two front ones in. I hope to have the two rears in tomorrow.

[DblTrbl]

Headed out to its first show today. Had a very positive response and walked away with 1st place.

[daddyjeep]

Nice, congratulations.

[75Dually]

That is super!

[DblTrbl]

Thanks Daddyjeep & 75Dually. It came as a surprise since it's still "under construction". But I'll take it! :-)

[DblTrbl]

I need a little help. Ive searched all over and can't seem to find a definitive answer to what size headlights I have. They're out of an 89' burb and I know that the crew cabs of the same year also had the quad lights. One of my high beams was cracked when dude backed into it so I figured now is a good time to upgrade. LMC lists these as a "150mm" headlight. I didn't have a very positive experience with them when I bought my new headlight doors and thier replacement lights are quite expensive. Every website out there seems to be confused as to which headlights came on this year. Some say 7x6, others list a composite...nothing is correct. Are these just 4x6? I'm assuming that a lot of the 80's cars used the same ones.

[aggie91]

Here are the part numbers for the stock replacements:


ACDELCO H4701 High Beam
ACDELCO H4703 Low Beam

They are 150mm Wide and 92mm Tall.

[DblTrbl]

Thanks Aggie. I was hoping to find some LEDs but it seems that these are a strange size and there's not much available.

[DblTrbl]

Spent some time working up a bracket and getting everything lined up to run a York 210.

[TrailerTrash]

thats pretty slick looking

[DblTrbl]

I was able to get everything hooked up yesterday. The distribution block that came with the compressor leaked everywhere. I spent a lot of time redoing every connection. I use pfte paste on all of my connections, but the pump gets too hot and it melted it all out so I wound up having to resort to old fashioned Teflon tape. Once I had all of the wiring and leaks sealed up I ran it up to 180lbs. At 150lbs, it started puking oil out of the dipstick...bad. I tried calling the company that modified it, but they were closed, so eventually I just capped the dipstick tube and that seems to have fixed it.

It is a lot faster than the electric pumps. I can fill 10gal from 0 to 180 in about 90 seconds at idle...a lot faster if I hammer the throttle. I was planning to get a 200psi switch, but as quick as it fills, I think I'll actually be okay with the 170. It recovers from airing up in about 20 seconds. If I can get my overnight bleed out taken care of, I'll be in really good shape.

[tinydb84]

Bracket looks really nice. That's quick fill too. I have heard about all the oil issues with them (checking, changing, filling, etc) is it worth it?

[DblTrbl]

Originally Posted by tinydb84

Bracket looks really nice. That's quick fill too. I have heard about all the oil issues with them (checking, changing, filling, etc) is it worth it?

Considering the wait time I had when I was running the twin 480's and the fact that my dual batteries were still going dead all the time, I'd say yes. The amperage draw from the electric compressors is enormous; so much that the valves didn't want to open when they were running unless I had the truck running and throttle pinned.

I spoke with the guy that builds/rebuilds these yorks today at length. He's a mobile mechanic and has been running one since 1999 for at least 5hrs daily for his air tools. He said that they're made to pump up to 2500psi and the external lines are the weak point (meaning everything that we would attach to it). It can be made to pump way faster with some creative pulley setup. I know 75dually changed his around somehow with a different pulley from Kilbys. Mine being a brand new rebuild, the rings still need to seat I guess so the "blow by" or oil in the lines should lessen over time with use. 75dually went through his himself, so he can probably answer specific questions better than I can. For your build, I expect that you won't wait long before moving over to one of these too. This company is out of San Jose, so you could get it quickly.

[75Dually]

If it was me I would consider taking the drain and fill tubes off the side and simply plugging the holes. These York's don't need to be filled as often as you would think once the rings break in. They only need about 3/8" of oil in the bottom to make them run happy. Any more than that it will just end up in the filters down stream. Since I have been running mine I have only added oil back in once, and it was very little at that.

The install is super clean by the way!

And to answer Tinydb84 - Yeah it's worth it! Those electric pumps are junk, and they just kill your electrical system. These are so simple, and the oil issues are way over blown. You just have to plan ahead and make smart choices with coalescing filters and water traps. I bet if you ask anyone who has had a good functioning York if they would ever go back to electric pumps, the only thing you would get is a bunch of funny stares, "like are you crazy!"

BTW - I run my system at 200 psi and it takes it just a little over 90 seconds to fill 8 gallons when completely empty. Try that with an electric system...

[SCOTI]

I follow both of your threads so I'm usually checking in when updates are posted. This statement has me curious:

Originally Posted by 75Dually

And to answer Tinydb84 - Yeah it's worth it! Those electric pumps are junk, and they just kill your electrical system. These are so simple, and the oil issues are way over blown. You just have to plan ahead and make smart choices with coalescing filters and water traps. I bet if you ask anyone who has had a good functioning York if they would ever go back to electric pumps, the only thing you would get is a bunch of funny stares, "like are you crazy!"

BTW - I run my system at 200 psi and it takes it just a little over 90 seconds to fill 8 gallons when completely empty. Try that with an electric system...

My current system is 6gallons @ <200psi & fills w/2 Thomas comps from Ride Tech. If my dually is air'd out & I need to fill it to raise up to ride height, my comps cycle on for maybe 3-4mins. I also don't see any strain on my charging system (gauge stays consistent around 14v w/the comps running). I had over 6yrs of daily trouble-free use on my last Thomas comp on my 68 swb.

I can see the York if you have a huge demand for air but for simple stuff I don't get why the electric pumps get such a bad rep.

[DblTrbl]

Originally Posted by SCOTI

I follow both of your threads so I'm usually checking in when updates are posted. This statement has me curious:



My current system is 6gallons @ <200psi & fills w/2 Thomas comps from Ride Tech. If my dually is air'd out & I need to fill it to raise up to ride height, my comps cycle on for maybe 3-4mins. I also don't see any strain on my charging system (gauge stays consistent around 14v w/the comps running). I had over 6yrs of daily trouble-free use on my last Thomas comp on my 68 swb.

I can see the York if you have a huge demand for air but for simple stuff I don't get why the electric pumps get such a bad rep.

I'm not familiar with the Thomas compressors. My 480's sticker says that they have a 20amp draw each. I had a 60amp alternator and a single, albeit large battery. (I've since moved up to a dual battery setup with an isolator and a 120amp alternator). I could drive around for a couple days on a full charge and then I'd have problems with a dead battery or the valves acting funny. My system would also show around 14v the whole time. I'm no electrician but I think the compressors were still drawing more amperage than my alternator could keep up with even though it was charging at 14v. Maybe I had a pansy alternator...

Still, waiting 3-4 minutes (10 minutes in my case) to be able to air up and drive really sucked. I went to leave a show a couple weeks ago and a small crowd had gathered to see it lift and I had to sit there for what seemed like a year.

I run pretty low everywhere so I'm always having to air up for railroad tracks, driveways, sharp turns, squirrels, etc. 10-20 second recovery is awesome!

One other advantage that hasn't been mentioned is the York is nearly silent compared to the electric compressors.

[SCOTI]

Originally Posted by DblTrbl

I'm not familiar with the Thomas compressors. My 480's sticker says that they have a 20amp draw each. I had a 60amp alternator and a single, albeit large battery. (I've since moved up to a dual battery setup with an isolator and a 120amp alternator). I could drive around for a couple days on a full charge and then I'd have problems with a dead battery or the valves acting funny. My system would also show around 14v the whole time. I'm no electrician but I think the compressors were still drawing more amperage than my alternator could keep up with even though it was charging at 14v. Maybe I had a pansy alternator...

Still, waiting 3-4 minutes (10 minutes in my case) to be able to air up and drive really sucked. I went to leave a show a couple weeks ago and a small crowd had gathered to see it lift and I had to sit there for what seemed like a year.

I run pretty low everywhere so I'm always having to air up for railroad tracks, driveways, sharp turns, squirrels, etc. 10-20 second recovery is awesome!

One other advantage that hasn't been mentioned is the York is nearly silent compared to the electric compressors.

Mine almost reaches ride height with just the psi in the tank (for the fronts) & has no prob reaching ride height in the rear. Even w/the comps coming on, I only have to wait a few seconds before there's enough psi to reach 'aligned' ride height up front (it's actually high enough to drive; just not ride height). I wait that long just making sure everything (oil psi/volts/water temp) is good. The remaining fill time to the psi limits is done as I'm moving along.

I've heard the EDC's are 'almost silent' but my comps aren't any louder than my exhaust. They're right between the exhaust tips & you really (really) have to listen to know if they're even cycling. I just use an off the shelf alt (104amp?) for a GM serp app from Oreillys. No issues.

I guess both will work just fine (I know mine does; yours as well). Nice fab work on that bracket too.

[DblTrbl]

Layin down the sound deadener. I'm doing the carpet today. Man, this is a ton of work.