Project Vitamin C-10

[57truckguy]

My 2 cents worth.

I also have a small welder, off brand, does a ok job on up to 1/4 inch but i've( meaning my skills) are lacking in welding sheet metal. fortunately I've made an friend who welds for a living. He builds staninless steel and other metal headers for dragsters and high end hot rods.. He is a real artist.. He wants to build a set of headers for my truck with the BB but I've not seen the need thus far. Not a drag car, just a daily driver type.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Alan here are a couple of pics of the GM switch I used for the brake lights. Used to have one of thoes pressure switches on the main brake line.. just didn't seem to work all the time. this has been perfect. I think it could be adapted to work on the emergercy brake.

Thanks for the pics. That will be something I do when everything else is done.

Originally Posted by 57truckguy

Just wanted to say that the entire interior was made, except the seats, without a sewing machine... entirely chip board and glue. After I get them reinstalled I'll send pics. if you want.

Oh by the way the holes in the panel are for the arm rest to attach to the door, the speakes mounting point and the opening handle.

Nice work on the panels

Originally Posted by McMurphy

Thank you Alan, and all the others who replied about the welders. I think there is one of the Lincolns at the local hockshop for $225. I will pop in there today after work and take a look at it.

Yep that Needle Scaler is exactly what I had in mind !!

You guys rock !!

Originally Posted by 65Custom

your right Allen every time I'm headed north on 575 I think the same thing too I say to myself I need to get up there and check it out

someday it will happen.

Originally Posted by Strodder

Me too, but a better welder helps, along with a good welders mask.

Good safety tip.

Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics.

I took some advice off the FAQ headlight upgrade thread. I was trying to figure out a good location for the relays. The FAQ showed them behind the grill. It's a good place, but I wanted them completly out of sight. I was thinking they will be visible behind the grill. I also wanted them to be easily accessed, so I moved them up some. They are located under the panel from the headlight mount panel to the radiator support. I roughed it out tonight just need to clean it up and paint. I also mounted the fan relay there as well. The wires will be routed so they can't be seen.

[shrunken66stroker]

Slick!

[65Custom]

yep cool idea to move them up to where they cant be seen I am a believer of the minimalist look, or clean un-cluttered look Alan is an artist

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by shrunken66stroker

Slick!

Originally Posted by 65Custom

yep cool idea to move them up to where they cant be seen I am a believer of the minimalist look, or clean un-cluttered look Alan is an artist

Thanks guys!!

Got the bracket finished up. By keeping them up higher and sheltered it should keep them dry as well.

I'm trying to figure out what AWG size is required for 20 amps, from the chart I found says a 16 AWG will carry 22 amps. The conductor size is .0508. The wires on the 12v feed to the relays measures about .090" (stripped) which shows on the chart to be a 11 AWG. I feel I should match the wire size that feeds the relay from the battery.

The fan relay says 20 amps continous, but it has a 30 amp fuse.

I have some left over wire from the main harness that measures .090". I will just use that to feed the relays.

On the headlight relays I plan on feed 12v via one wire from the battery and split it to the relays. I will install a 20 amp circuit breaker on the single wire.

For those of you that are following this thread and are wiring up your truck, don't listen to me. I'm asking questions and faking it til I make it here.

[66BowTieBoy]

Oh Alan, it's almost as beautiful as your wood.....!

You are my inspiration...!

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy

Oh Alan, it's almost as beautiful as your wood.....!

You are my inspiration...!

Thanks Danny, do you have any inputs on some of my electrical ramblings in my last post?
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[Strodder]

Nice job Alan. Make sure all your grounds are on bare metal.

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

Nice job Alan. Make sure all your grounds are on bare metal.

Thanks for the suggestion Dennis, I used a lock washer under the nut to get a good bite. I checked continuity with a meter between the bracket and the engine and other body parts. It checked good.

[Strodder]

Good.

[198plus]

Hurry up and get finished with the electrical..........Mines next

[66BowTieBoy]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Thanks Danny, do you have any inputs on some of my electrical ramblings in my last post?
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Alan, this vehicle you are building is go'na be bullet proof and should be running around the highways long after we are all Dust in the Wind...
The electrical system you have engineered would make NASA happy....

Someday I hope to attend a Rod Run in your part of the country and touch this master piece in person.

Again, YOU-B-THE-MAN...!

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy

Alan, this vehicle you are building is go'na be bullet proof and should be running around the highways long after we are all Dust in the Wind...
The electrical system you have engineered would make NASA happy....

Someday I hope to attend a Rod Run in your part of the country and touch this master piece in person.

Again, YOU-B-THE-MAN...!

Thanks again, but I wasn't looking for compliments. . I remember you know a lot about electrical and I had a couple questions about wire size and amps that I posted earlier. Thanks
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[McMurphy]

Thanks for the wire guage link, I saved it to my favorites for when needed. That will come in handy I am certain!

I am soooo gonna copy cat you on alot of this stuff... except of course I like a step side.
I'm just saying...

[66BowTieBoy]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

Thanks again, but I wasn't looking for compliments. . I remember you know a lot about electrical and I had a couple questions about wire size and amps that I posted earlier. Thanks
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Hey there Alan.

Everything I have seen you do, has been engineered with more than an adaquate cushion to perform without problems. A 14 gauge wire would work, 12 gauge would be better and 11 gauge is great. My only concern running a hot wire off the battery would be protection, and you have that covered. I got'a tell ya, I really love the wires running in the tubes.

Just keep doing what your doing....!

I know Airplane Mechanics who wish their work looked as good as yours....

Watch'n from the Cheap Seats.
Danny

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by McMurphy

Thanks for the wire guage link, I saved it to my favorites for when needed. That will come in handy I am certain!

I am soooo gonna copy cat you on alot of this stuff... except of course I like a step side.
I'm just saying...

Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy

Hey there Alan.

Everything I have seen you do, has been engineered with more than an adaquate cushion to perform without problems. A 14 gauge wire would work, 12 gauge would be better and 11 gauge is great. My only concern running a hot wire off the battery would be protection, and you have that covered. I got'a tell ya, I really love the wires running in the tubes.

Just keep doing what your doing....!

I know Airplane Mechanics who wish their work looked as good as yours....

Watch'n from the Cheap Seats.
Danny

Thanks again Danny, don't know if you know this or not. I was a jet mechanic for 12 years.

I should have run a larger tube in some areas. There might be somemore wires to run thru them. One being the signal wire from the temp sensor to the relay. Going out to figure that out............maybe.

I stopped by Tractor supply today and looked at some wire. On the back of a pack of 14 gauge it said it was rated for 22 or 24 amps. I can't remember which. That chart said 16 gauge is good for 22. I think the package would be right. I'm so confussed.

[Alan's Classic]

Relay question. Does it really matter if I hook up 12v signal from the dimmer switch to terminal 85 or 86? It looks to me that it is just firing the coil. I have conflicting schematics in front of me. One shows power coming in on 85 and ground on 86 and visa versa.

I almost made the mistake of hooking up the red wire on the relay pigtail to the battery. Upon further investigation the blue wire on terminal #30 is the main feed from the battery.

What is the 87A terminal for? It's looking like I will have an extra wire coming from 87A which happens to be the red wire.

[Alan's Classic]

I got the 20 amp CB mounted for the headlights. Then mformed some soft aluminum tubing to route the wires for HI/LOW beams and fan relay. Thank goodness I used soft aluminum. It's so much easier to work with.

[66BowTieBoy]

Hey Alan,

Here is a little diagram I keep handy, cuz with only two working braincells, I forget a lot. I don't see where it should make any difference which direction the current flows thru the coil, it's still go'na close the circuit.

Danny

P.S. I did not know you worked on Jets, but after seeing your handy-work it does not surprise me...

[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by 66BowTieBoy

Hey Alan,

Here is a little diagram I keep handy, cuz with only two working braincells, I forget a lot. I don't see where it should make any difference which direction the current flows thru the coil, it's still go'na close the circuit.

Danny

P.S. I did not know you worked on Jets, but after seeing your handy-work it does not surprise me...

Thanks Danny, that pic will come in handy. I'm definately more comfortable with relays since I finally underestand them. It's basically a switch.

Today I've removed the red wire from the center of the connector for 87A. If I would have realized this 2 days ago I would have moved the red wire to terminal 30 where the blue wire is now. I suppose it's not to late to do it now. I just don't like any other color than red feeding 12v.

Thought about going to the local junkyard today for some weatherpack connectors. Decided to just order them.

[Strodder]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

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Today I've removed the red wire from the center of the connector for 87A. If I would have realized this 2 days ago I would have moved the red wire to terminal 30 where the blue wire is now. I suppose it's not to late to do it now. I just don't like any other color than red feeding 12v.

That's what I did.

[jason65]

Beautiful work Alan.
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[Alan's Classic]

Originally Posted by Strodder

That's what I did.

It's starting to make sense.

Originally Posted by jason65

Beautiful work Alan.
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Thanks Jason, I wonder every now and then what ever happened to you. Hope all is well.

Any suggestions here. I bought a 59 impala temp sensor a couple years ago not thinking about the connector part. It's a pin style and I don't have a connector that style. What Chevy's ran a temp sensor with a blade style? Maybe the 70's had some. Do y'all think it would work if I could locate one? I've been googling it and searching parts stores and have yet to come up with anything.

Ok, I might have found a solution here

[Alan's Classic]

I'm having second thoughts of running painted silver bumpers to match the roof. Leaning towards chrome instead. Any thoughts?

[Vernski]

Originally Posted by Alan's Classic

I'm having second thoughts of running painted silver bumpers to match the roof. Leaning towards chrome instead. Any thoughts?

My mind votes Chrome....Vernski