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twitch4187 · 05-21-2005, 09:53 PM

I got an Old Air Products twin ele fan kit. Its a complete drop in unit that uses your stock fan shroud bolts. It even has a thermostat for the second fan. Why rig something if a properly fitting unit is made?

5150 · 05-22-2005, 01:21 AM

Because it depends on how much your Old Air Kit costs?

I believe it was an 88 Blazer

djracer · 05-22-2005, 09:31 AM

When you guys are looking for a setup check the caprices and buick roadmasters! The set here has the rods that attach to the intake and some intakes don'd have a place for these! I had a vortec motor with one of these setups and it sucked! The later truck brackets don't use these rods either I don't think!

5150 · 05-22-2005, 09:46 AM

I was going to ask did I need those brackets attached to the manifold, like they were on the blazer

Dean23 · 05-22-2005, 12:18 PM

the cut in the pulley is normal. Id run an electric fan myself. HErs a pic of your serp setup all cleaned up and mounted theu look sweet in IMHO

neonlarry · 05-22-2005, 02:05 PM

Did you get the A\C compressor and Alt? GM makes an idler pulley to replace A\C. If you are going to run A\C and not drill PS head for top bolt I would use the braces.

5150 · 05-22-2005, 11:15 PM

What do you mean drill the PS head for top bolt? I am going to have to buy the A/C delete pulley, possibly from Wes @ ClassicHeartbeat. How much is the GM pulley?

neonlarry · 05-23-2005, 12:27 AM

PS heads on our year trucks would normally need an additional hole drilled and tapped to be able to put top bolt in serp brackets. Some people, me included, don't bother with this others say you need it. Some GM techs say its alright to run without. But I would run braces with A\C, seeing as you're not its your call.

chickenwing · 05-23-2005, 10:59 AM

I've got a reverse rotation fan you can have for the price of freight.

Putter · 05-23-2005, 11:21 AM

Instead of running a metal fan, I am running electric fans. They cost me less than $80 total.
On the subject of the needed hole in the head for the bracket mounting, I don't have that hole. I chose to use the rod that goes from behind the tensioner to the front intake bolt on the driver's side. No problems yet and well over 2000 miles on it so far. (installed rod after picture was taken).

Dean23 · 05-23-2005, 11:31 AM

I dont remember the price of the pulley and bracket. I do have the gm part number though for the a/c delete....#10118713

Mudder · 05-23-2005, 11:41 AM

A guy on the 99+ parts board has electric fans I think from a newer Camaro for sale. I'm sure you you make those work.

5150 · 05-23-2005, 01:56 PM

Chickenwing-How much is freight to 37188?

Hey Putter,

What is that pulley below the A/C delete Pulley? It's in the second pic

**Palf70Step** · 05-23-2005, 06:48 PM

Bryan, it looks like the belt tensioner pulley. They were in a few different places depneding on year and engine model from what I remember.

chickenwing · 05-23-2005, 07:11 PM

Yellow69, dunno. I'll drag it to work tomarrow, box it and scale it and let ya know. That pulley is an idler. The tensioner is the pulley to the right of the ac delete pulley.

5150 · 05-23-2005, 10:54 PM

That pulley apparently didn't come with my setup.

chickenwing · 05-23-2005, 11:49 PM

If ya go new... http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=806&ptset=A

You still need the bolt though and it is probably "special". I bought mine new GM and it was $54 if I recall correctly. Came with the bolt though.

tmcgrawlookalike · 05-23-2005, 11:59 PM

oreilly`s has the a/c delete set-up in stock now.39 bucks,i think.

Putter · 05-24-2005, 09:26 AM

They already answered this, but that is a idler pulley. And I also marked the rod that I am using because of the missing hole in my passenger side head. Works great.

chickenwing · 05-24-2005, 11:47 AM

I forgot to bring the fan to work today. Cut me some slack

03:45 is early! Will try again tomarrow. I also have an illustrated parts list for this with GM#'s to boot... Gotta find it.

In relation to the missing bolt on the passenger head. I contacted GM Performance Parts. They insisted that the bracket would hold up without the bolt. Mine has not cracked after a year+ so far. Brackets sound like a good idea though. I think there is actually 2 used.

5150 · 05-24-2005, 12:23 PM

I'll just go back down to Pull-a-Part and grab the pulley off something. Thanks for the info on the A/C delete at O'Reilly's I'll check it out.

5150 · 05-24-2005, 12:25 PM

No problem on the fan. It's not like I have anything to put it on. I understand about it being early. I work 6p-6a and they just promoted me to Detective on Monday so now I'm working days. It sucks TOO MANY PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH!!!!!!!!

Putter · 05-24-2005, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellow69

...and they just promoted me to Detective on Monday.......

Only on Monday? That's wierd.

5150 · 05-24-2005, 01:11 PM

Yeah just Mondays!

Next week I get to work 4-12 M-F, which is kind of cool cause I get weekends off for all the cool shows this time of year.

CHEVYE · 05-24-2005, 02:10 PM

hey Bryan, go ahead and get youtself a metal aftermarket idler pully. i got one for $16 at orielly's the other day. the stock one was plastic and the bearing went bad and it melted the plastic one in seconds.

been waiting on those pics Eric, looks killer.

05-21-2005, 09:53 PM	#26
twitch4187 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 23	A Bol In Elec. Fan Kit I got an Old Air Products twin ele fan kit. Its a complete drop in unit that uses your stock fan shroud bolts. It even has a thermostat for the second fan. Why rig something if a properly fitting unit is made?

05-22-2005, 01:21 AM	#27
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Because it depends on how much your Old Air Kit costs? I believe it was an 88 Blazer __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-22-2005, 09:31 AM	#28
djracer Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Wetumpka, Al, U.S. Posts: 8,892	When you guys are looking for a setup check the caprices and buick roadmasters! The set here has the rods that attach to the intake and some intakes don'd have a place for these! I had a vortec motor with one of these setups and it sucked! The later truck brackets don't use these rods either I don't think! __________________ Kevin Special Thanks to All who have helped on the TRUCK! My Pass Time Show http://s129.photobucket.com/albums/p...Chapter1-0.mp4 So Far my best Times are: Motor only: 6.44 1/8 @ 104.13 10.39 1/4 @ 125.83 Nitrous Times: 5.785 1/8 @ 118.65 with a 1.336 60ft 9.168 1/4 @ 142.58 with a 250 shot dead out of the hole!

05-22-2005, 09:46 AM	#29
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	I was going to ask did I need those brackets attached to the manifold, like they were on the blazer __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-22-2005, 12:18 PM	#30
Dean23 68cst_ss490 Join Date: May 2001 Location: edmonton,canada Posts: 1,363	the cut in the pulley is normal. Id run an electric fan myself. HErs a pic of your serp setup all cleaned up and mounted theu look sweet in IMHO __________________ Dean edmonton,canada a winter wonderland 2005 Chevrolet Avalanche LT cold air intake, performance exhaust, Comp cams cam, jba shorty ceramic headers. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3090973

05-22-2005, 02:05 PM	#31
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,745	Did you get the A\C compressor and Alt? GM makes an idler pulley to replace A\C. If you are going to run A\C and not drill PS head for top bolt I would use the braces. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

05-22-2005, 11:15 PM	#32
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	What do you mean drill the PS head for top bolt? I am going to have to buy the A/C delete pulley, possibly from Wes @ ClassicHeartbeat. How much is the GM pulley? __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-23-2005, 12:27 AM	#33
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,745	PS heads on our year trucks would normally need an additional hole drilled and tapped to be able to put top bolt in serp brackets. Some people, me included, don't bother with this others say you need it. Some GM techs say its alright to run without. But I would run braces with A\C, seeing as you're not its your call. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

05-23-2005, 10:59 AM	#34
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	I've got a reverse rotation fan you can have for the price of freight. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!

05-23-2005, 11:21 AM	#35
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	Instead of running a metal fan, I am running electric fans. They cost me less than $80 total. On the subject of the needed hole in the head for the bracket mounting, I don't have that hole. I chose to use the rod that goes from behind the tensioner to the front intake bolt on the driver's side. No problems yet and well over 2000 miles on it so far. (installed rod after picture was taken). Attached Images __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket** Last edited by Putter; 05-23-2005 at 11:23 AM.

05-23-2005, 11:31 AM	#36
Dean23 68cst_ss490 Join Date: May 2001 Location: edmonton,canada Posts: 1,363	I dont remember the price of the pulley and bracket. I do have the gm part number though for the a/c delete....#10118713 __________________ Dean edmonton,canada a winter wonderland 2005 Chevrolet Avalanche LT cold air intake, performance exhaust, Comp cams cam, jba shorty ceramic headers. http://www.cardomain.com/ride/3090973

05-23-2005, 11:41 AM	#37
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	A guy on the 99+ parts board has electric fans I think from a newer Camaro for sale. I'm sure you you make those work.

05-23-2005, 01:56 PM	#38
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Chickenwing-How much is freight to 37188? Hey Putter, What is that pulley below the A/C delete Pulley? It's in the second pic __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-23-2005, 06:48 PM	#39
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,216	Bryan, it looks like the belt tensioner pulley. They were in a few different places depneding on year and engine model from what I remember. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God! Last edited by Palf70Step; 05-23-2005 at 06:49 PM.

05-23-2005, 07:11 PM	#40
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	Yellow69, dunno. I'll drag it to work tomarrow, box it and scale it and let ya know. That pulley is an idler. The tensioner is the pulley to the right of the ac delete pulley. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!



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05-23-2005, 10:54 PM	#41
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	That pulley apparently didn't come with my setup. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-23-2005, 11:49 PM	#42
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	If ya go new... http://www.partsamerica.com/ProductD...pe=806&ptset=A You still need the bolt though and it is probably "special". I bought mine new GM and it was $54 if I recall correctly. Came with the bolt though. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!

05-23-2005, 11:59 PM	#43
tmcgrawlookalike Registered User Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: warr acres,oklahoma Posts: 650	oreilly`s has the a/c delete set-up in stock now.39 bucks,i think.

05-24-2005, 09:26 AM	#44
Putter More Cowbell.... Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, MS Posts: 3,569	They already answered this, but that is a idler pulley. And I also marked the rod that I am using because of the missing hole in my passenger side head. Works great. Attached Images __________________ *There once was a member from Puckett.....Who ( fill in the blank blank blank* ) bucket**

05-24-2005, 11:47 AM	#45
chickenwing Lovin' Life in Miss.! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Puckett, Mississippi Posts: 1,937	I forgot to bring the fan to work today. Cut me some slack 03:45 is early! Will try again tomarrow. I also have an illustrated parts list for this with GM#'s to boot... Gotta find it. In relation to the missing bolt on the passenger head. I contacted GM Performance Parts. They insisted that the bracket would hold up without the bolt. Mine has not cracked after a year+ so far. Brackets sound like a good idea though. I think there is actually 2 used. __________________ The truck... you hear that? No really, you did hear that?!!!

05-24-2005, 12:23 PM	#46
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	I'll just go back down to Pull-a-Part and grab the pulley off something. Thanks for the info on the A/C delete at O'Reilly's I'll check it out. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-24-2005, 12:25 PM	#47
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	No problem on the fan. It's not like I have anything to put it on. I understand about it being early. I work 6p-6a and they just promoted me to Detective on Monday so now I'm working days. It sucks TOO MANY PEOPLE TO DEAL WITH!!!!!!!! __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4

05-24-2005, 01:11 PM	#49
5150 C10 Club Tennessee Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: White House, TN 37188 Posts: 8,281	Yeah just Mondays! Next week I get to work 4-12 M-F, which is kind of cool cause I get weekends off for all the cool shows this time of year. __________________ Bryan www.gmtruckshow.com Project "Andes"-Halen's First Truck Project: Patina Burb for he is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God’s wrath on the wrongdoer. Romans 13:4 Last edited by 5150; 05-24-2005 at 01:12 PM.

05-24-2005, 02:10 PM	#50
CHEVYE my gas saver Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 2,046	hey Bryan, go ahead and get youtself a metal aftermarket idler pully. i got one for $16 at orielly's the other day. the stock one was plastic and the bearing went bad and it melted the plastic one in seconds. been waiting on those pics Eric, looks killer. __________________ 85' SWB, 4.3/TH350, getting ready for paint 84`SWB, 462ci./TH400, cowl hood, 15" billet spec., flows, blazer buckets/console, flat black 71`SWB, project ebay feedback

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