Going to court

[smokinn]

Originally Posted by 79BIG10

If you have something in writing that says it had a "new crate engine" then I would look into the case then.

Yes I do. Also have him on a local website trying to sell it. On it he states
79 chevy pickup 4x4 shortbox with 3 inch body lift, new crate motor, runs great needs nothing but a battery. Also printed out the entire forum and everyones questions with his DISHONEST answers. With what I have off the website hes pretty much sunk. On the site he says he knows about the front end and brakes that needed fixing but didnt disclose this to me when i bought it. The engine had a flat cam in it as well. As far as the shop, i trust them 100% they have been doing business with my family for years. Its not like I just picked them out of the phone book. Also hes trying to start a auto tinting/costomize biz out of his garage, Im sure its not zone for commercial work or that he has insurance and paying taxes. Im sure the right goverment/city agencies would like to know about.

[ilg14]

I doubt your government idea will help you much. It's not like you're dealing with an all original Vette with matching numbers and his upstart business is an illegal casino or a special tobacco farm

[smokinn]

Originally Posted by ilg14

I doubt your government idea will help you much.

I wasnt thinking as far as helping my case. I will get even in court or through his illegal biz.

[f.monroe]

Sounds like you have a delima . I personally think you will be better off staying out of his personal business . Those kind of "get even " things have a way of escalating out of control and once you start it , you might not be happy with his response . Remember that you cant predict how someone will react . I hope that things work out for you but cant see how they would . I am with the majority here , I would call it a lesson learned . I have also learned that if you buy something that needs work , and you cant do it yourself ,you are probably better off buying something a little more expensive that doesnt need work . Sounds like a bad situation that probably isnt going to get better any time soon . If you do win a court case , he will probably not have the cash to pay . Restitution can be a slow way to get your money back . Have fun .Frank

[phantom dually]

You guys are killing me with the "Create" motor thing here!! Its a CRATE motor!! Anyhow I think you are wasting your time here. I would just take the lesson learned and leave it. It seems that your mind is made so good luck. Looks to me as you will be throwing more $$ away.

[bagged01extcab]

[beaterC10]

Originally Posted by phantom dually

You guys are killing me with the "Create" motor thing here!! Its a CRATE motor!! Anyhow I think you are wasting your time here. I would just take the lesson learned and leave it. It seems that your mind is made so good luck. Looks to me as you will be throwing more $$ away.

Hey phantom, it would really be most correct to say crate engine

[gn4u2c]

I will chime in here as I know of people who been down this road even with the info from hemmings printed out.Showing date/casting codes on a (original 427 camaro)copo . Like a idiot they bough it without a knowing mechanic on site when it got to there house (shipped 1,600 miles) We open the hood and BAMO !! thats no doubt a late model 454 . Now it's gone from a 45,000 car to a 20,000 car.They Still LOST IN COURT> why ? bill of sale said "as is" judge claimed he knows there was probably some foul play there but nothing you can prove. He can say you must have left and went home put some old junker engine in it and are trying to burn him. word/word = nothing. No one wins waste of time and MORE money. Just post the truck up and part ways with it if your mad. Or live with it. Sorry..... Does sound like it has changed into a nice truck though.

[marvxyz1]

The two things you'd first look at in Pernnsylvania, when buying a car is, the mileage of the vehicle and whether or not the vehicle has a new state inspection. Those two things can tell a lot about a vehicle. I bet that truck has high mileage. You may not have auto inspections in your state, but the mileage on the truck should have told you something. Also, when the seller said that the truck had a new crate motor, and he's only asking 1000.00 for the truck, it should have sent up a red flag. A crate motor costs more than 1000.00. This may have been an expensive lesson, but will probably save you, when you get older, and you see a "bargain" for sale. You will be able to scrutinize it, better.

[ItsNotABlazer]

I am going to have to agree with the 90% or more of the people here and just say chalk it up as a lesson learned. Besides what if he prints out THIS forum and shows the judge even if you dont win the case you wish to cause him trouble. Might not be a good idea to show threats like that in a public forum. As far as I know it is not illegal to tint windows on your private property. If he was to post a sign showing it was a business it would be a different matter. IMO you should just investigate a bit more before you buy and remember most times you get what you pay for.

Brad

[FUNMUDDER]

with Marv. I still want to see pics of the truck.

[smokinn]

Thanks for all the feedback, Let me answer some questions here. We have no in state inspection if you buy a truck in state. If you buy one out of state then yes there is. As far as collecting money thats not really a big deal. If I was to win he would have 30 days to pay up or I could start haveing his wages deducted. He all ready has a couple of judgments aginst him for anywhere from 3300.00 to 4000.00. He moved since these 2 and im sure the creditors dont now where he lives. And as far as the biz sign, he does have a sign up and even a website and hands out biz cards. I own my own PT HVAC biz so I know alot of the laws on this as well. Im going to sit on this for a few days and call him and let him know what has happened and see what he says. My wife says I shouldnt call him but I think I should. And YES it does drive like a bat out of hell now.

I will post some pics tomorrow when I can go out and look at it with out getting mad.

[SSC's76]

Sorry but your just going to loose time and money trying to sue him unless it gets into peoples court then you might have a shot. In Colorado used cars and trucks especailly private party are sold (as is). If you buy one off the lot your given 48 hours to return it but with private party there is no such luxury. I dont know what the exact laws are up in Ne but I do know for a fact if you signed the title in your name then you accepted it as your truck. Alos in no state will they give you more then you paid for it.

People lie when they sell stuff, it's sad but a fact of life. Besdies doesent every used car or truck for sale have a rebuilt engine? Maybe a couple years old................

[84 400]

Yep here in Mass we have a 60 day lemon law. This means that durning the first 60 days after sale if the new owner finds anything that the old owner did not tell them up front they must refund the money as the old owner recives the car back. however i am not sure of the limitations do to the value of a car. Post some pics of the truck. BTW what type of crate motor is it?? do you have any papers on it thanks and good ;luck

[84 400]

[ Besdies doesent every used car or truck for sale have a rebuilt engine? Maybe a couple years old................[/QUOTE]
lol No at least i hope not

[smokinn]

I do have papers on the motor. I will post some pics tomorrow night.

[82c10]

what forum was this on?

[crazy longhorn]

If that were me selling the truck......I would ask you what the he!! you really expected for 1000 bucks? As is, no warranty......good damn luck trying to sue the guy for what.....2 1/2 times the purchase price + cost ,ect? Welcome to the real world......you may feel that you got "hosed", & maybe you did? Its up to you to prove the point......I would be willing to bet that the seller will tell you that the MECHANIC "hosed" you(ouch), but I have seen that done also! I have,& I am sure many others have learned this one the hard way......it dont make it hurt less, but you will know better next round Chalk it up to a good "life lesson"(dont trust no MOFO!), but do the legwork.....hire a mechanic to check it out ,or a bud,ect. I am no attorney, but know a little about the laws........methinks, you dont have a leg to stand on(not a joke, or attitude, but just one crazy old mans opinion). best of luck to you, & honestly IMO.....if you got a solid old truck for a grand , methinks you did alright Al

[SSC's76]

True, when i buy somthing worth keeping I dont care what the previous owner says He or She has done to it, If its a V8 chevy it inst going to stay the way they had it anyway.

[cochran63]

If in the contract (there is a contract right??? any sale of goods over 500 must have a contract to be enforceable) there is a mistake of fact you can void the contract for the purchase of the vehicle. This sounds more like a mistake in value to me though.

[84 400]

good luck i got to see this truck for myself

[smokinn]

Pics coming tonight. As far as the website that he was on trying to sell it I dont want to post it yet.

[SmittySmith]

Sorry to hear about your bum deal. Sounds like you were taken in and put too much trust in the individual you were buying from. With all of the emphasis you have placed on the "new crate" it kinda looks like you were hoping for a really sweet deal... only $1000 for a decent truck of this vintage with a "new crate" would be a sweet deal. Maybe you moved on it a little too fast hoping that it wouldn't "get away from you". Of course we ALL have better hindsight, and it's pretty easy to critique what you should have done, now that the deal went south for you. Don't expect any success with the court system unless you have some pretty good stuff in writing, even then at most the court would only be able to "remedy" what you initially paid the individual you bought the truck from, the shop costs are all yours. Without specifics in writing, you are hosed.
When someone claims to have a "new crate" engine, ask for the receipt, if they can't produce one then consider it bogus. The extra time and cost to have it checked (compression test, put up on a rack and checked underneath real good, etc.) could have saved you the misfortune... Of course I'm sure that is only preaching to the choir now.
Again, sorry for the bum deal. But a court case does not look good for you.
Hopefully your truck will become the ride you were hoping for, even if it hasn't been the deal you had expected.

Regards, Smitty

[piecesparts]

After all that has been said, IF you pursue chasing this guy---GOOD LUCK. I'm sticking with the "Pessimist" title and thinking that you are going to be unhappy (and further into the money pit) in the end. The state/government may get on this guy for the simple things as a business in a residential area. If he doesn't have a large sign, then maybe not. The court thing is a loosing process in my eyes, but if you insist---go for it. I still think that you have already put monies into the truck and he has you there---no refund. Also you stated that he has already got a couple of finacial decisions against him, and he is not paying them back---READ the writing on the wall.

[stueber68]

Get over it! We all get burned sometimes, sh** happens. Just go on with your life and drive the truck or sell it now.