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70c10 · 07-31-2006, 06:58 AM

Alex- one last question. In one of the pics that shows the long bolt on the drivers side, it looks like the bar lays right up against the trailing arm. Is that the case or is it just the way the pic was taken?.

ChevyDude · 07-31-2006, 10:22 AM

That's just the way the pic was taken. Plenlty of clearance everywhere with this install. This Mod was one that was quick and I realy feel good about. Really a good quality sway bar and heavy duty!

**Already Gone** · 08-02-2006, 02:03 PM

I was under my truck yesterday when I was getting the trans serviced and looking where the rear sway bar would clamp. With the combo of your pics and seeing where the bar attaches ( the frame and trailing arms), this may be a dumb question but wouldn't attaching the sway bar to the farme and trailing arms restrict the the up and down movement of the trailing arms therefore making the ruck ride a lot harsher?

ChevyDude · 08-02-2006, 02:48 PM

Well, I hope not! Lets hope the Helwig engineers knew what they where doing. The reviews I read about this bar were nothing but thumbs up, with no negitive remarks. Guess I'll have to see when I drive it. There's always Ebay if I don't care for it, but I seriously doubt that I won't like it...LOL!

bryanw1968 · 08-02-2006, 03:19 PM

I have a front and rear sway bar on my short bed step side '68.
Adding the front sway bar made a HUGE difference in handling. It made it much more fun and safer to drive.

Adding the rear sway bar also helped but was less noticeable. One thing to watch out for is how big of a sway bar you put where. If you have a rear wheel drive vehicle you want a bigger sway bar in the front and a smaller one in the rear to prevent understeer. It's the opposite for a front wheel drive setup.

All in all, a great mod. Best bang for the handling buck!

Great job on the install. Very clean truck.

**Already Gone** · 08-02-2006, 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChevyDude

Well, I hope not! Lets hope the Helwig engineers knew what they where doing. The reviews I read about this bar were nothing but thumbs up, with no negitive remarks. Guess I'll have to see when I drive it. There's always Ebay if I don't care for it, but I seriously doubt that I won't like it...LOL!

Yes I would assume that the Hellwig engineers knew what they were doing when they designed the sway bar. I'm real anxious to see if you can see any notable difference with the rear bar attached. In saying that though it looks to me like you are assembling your truck and wont really know how the truck drove without the rear bar.

ChevyDude · 08-02-2006, 03:54 PM

Already Gone...you are right....Only drove the truck once, and that was to the paint shop over 3 years ago. I will be able to tell you if I like the way the truck rides and feels, though. Shortly....with a little luck!

boraxman · 08-02-2006, 04:19 PM

Would the rear sway bar possibily eliminate the need for a panhard bar?

ChevyDude · 08-02-2006, 04:49 PM

No, panhard bar is to keep the differential from twisting. 4 link will eliminate panhard bar.

bryanw1968 · 08-02-2006, 07:05 PM

When I installed the rear sway bar I could hug the corners much tighter. However I do notice now that if I'm going around a corner hard and there's a bump in it that my rear end hops some instead of absorbing the bump.
All in all I like it though.

ChevyDude · 08-02-2006, 07:19 PM

I am sure it will tighten up the suspension and travel...but I'm not looking for a Cadilac ride.

smbrouss70 · 08-03-2006, 12:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChevyDude

No, panhard bar is to keep the differential from twisting. 4 link will eliminate panhard bar.

Actually, a 4-link (or the factory trailing arms) keeps the differential from twisting. The panhard bar keeps the rear end from moving side to side. And a "normal" 4-link still requires a panhard bar, a triangulated 4-link will eliminate it.

ChevyDude · 08-03-2006, 01:55 AM

Thanks for clearing that up...I am no expert for sure.

centsless · 08-03-2006, 10:28 PM

Very nice job on the sway bar.

It really does look like it belongs there. Everything on your truck looks top notch!! I just got mine done, and looking at yours makes me think I need to re-do it!! Can't wait to see it all done

smbrouss70 · 08-03-2006, 11:16 PM

no problem, Your truck sure is looking good. Make sure you post a thread with the finished pics of it!

ChevyDude · 08-06-2006, 09:18 PM

Thanks Guys...will do!!!

ERASER5 · 08-05-2010, 06:02 PM

Back from the dead! I needed to look at your rear sway bar pictures. My sway bar is a little different, but the frame mounts are similar. I would have never guessed it mounted that way! So thanks for your posts so long ago.

oldblue1968chevy · 08-05-2010, 08:08 PM

I found somewhere about camaro rear sway bars, never heard of how a sway bar handled with these trucks, I know the front did loads of good though..

ERASER5 · 08-05-2010, 10:07 PM

Never heard? Well, the word is GOOD! Hellwig is a popular brand.

GMCshorty · 08-05-2010, 11:35 PM

Looks great. I was thinking about putting a rear bar on mine as well but my truck has leafs. What do you leaf spring guys use for a rear bar?

oldblue1968chevy · 08-05-2010, 11:37 PM

Is it as good of an upgrade as the front bar?

ERASER5 · 08-06-2010, 02:36 AM

Front bar first. That will make world of difference. The rear will make a difference, but not as dramatic. I need to control 300 gallons of water sloshing back and forth. The rear sway will really help me there.

Hellwig 7402 is for leaves. It will stiffen up the ride.

I have use PST before with good luck, but that was on a car.

rockvette · 08-06-2010, 03:20 AM

I have a 1964 1/2 ton short stepside with 1-1/4" in front and 1-1/8"in rear.This thing handles like a go-cart no leaning or swaying it is the best thingI could have done Got my kit from CCP

LONGHAIR · 08-06-2010, 06:49 AM

Come on ERASER5, don't you know that newbies are supposed to dig up the old threads? LOL

djmachinist · 08-06-2010, 07:19 AM

ChevyDude,

Your truck build is awsome!! What Dia. rear bar did you use? I have the CPP 1 1/8in. dia rear bar with the 1 1/4 in. bar in the front. I have not installed the rear bar yet because I was afraid it would induce oversteer in a hard corner.
Just the front bar keeps it pretty flat in corners, not much body roll. Let us know how that rear bar works when you get it back on the road.

What I really want to here about is the Stereo set up you have behind the seat. I just installed a CPP rear alum. tank setup in my truck so I would have more room behind the seats. What is that black panel across the back of the cab made of? How is it attached? I see three shiny bolts at the top, is the cab doublewall where the bolts are located. I'm trying to figure out how to clean up the rear cab wall so I can install bucket seats and a console. I like what you did! Do tell all!!!

Thanks,
Dale

07-31-2006, 06:58 AM	#26
70c10 67-72 Addict! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: The TAX State! Posts: 7,857	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Alex- one last question. In one of the pics that shows the long bolt on the drivers side, it looks like the bar lays right up against the trailing arm. Is that the case or is it just the way the pic was taken?. __________________ Jim 1970 C/10 Fleetside w/Ghost Flames Lowered 4.5" front and 4" rear (Raked) 355/350 Turbo w/shift kit 10" Redneck Performance Verter w/2500 stall Hooker Super Comps part#2808-1 Performer RPM Air-Gap 12 Bolt w/3:73 gears- Eaton Posi Comp Cams XE262 with 1.6 Crane Energizers, Road Demon 625 and Brodix IK 180 heads

07-31-2006, 10:22 AM	#27
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... That's just the way the pic was taken. Plenlty of clearance everywhere with this install. This Mod was one that was quick and I realy feel good about. Really a good quality sway bar and heavy duty! Last edited by ChevyDude; 07-31-2006 at 10:22 AM.

08-02-2006, 02:03 PM	#28
Already Gone 70+ ( Old Skool Club ) Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan ,Canada Posts: 9,139	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... I was under my truck yesterday when I was getting the trans serviced and looking where the rear sway bar would clamp. With the combo of your pics and seeing where the bar attaches ( the frame and trailing arms), this may be a dumb question but wouldn't attaching the sway bar to the farme and trailing arms restrict the the up and down movement of the trailing arms therefore making the ruck ride a lot harsher? __________________ 1972 C10 Custom/Deluxe 613 Highlander 406/700R4 1999 White Tahoe LS 4x2 with Z56 Police Package 1992 K1500 GMC Suburban Members I have personally met: MusicMan70 - HeavyD - ChewyChevy67 - StingRay -71SWB4x4 - 67 Burb - DeadheadNM - too much stuff - bc65 - das601 " Circumsatances Do Not Change Responsibility " " The Sky is not the Limit, Your Mind is." Marilyn Monroe .. RIP Charlie Watts 1941 - 2021

08-02-2006, 02:48 PM	#29
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Well, I hope not! Lets hope the Helwig engineers knew what they where doing. The reviews I read about this bar were nothing but thumbs up, with no negitive remarks. Guess I'll have to see when I drive it. There's always Ebay if I don't care for it, but I seriously doubt that I won't like it...LOL!

08-02-2006, 03:19 PM	#30
bryanw1968 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leander, Texas Posts: 850	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... I have a front and rear sway bar on my short bed step side '68. Adding the front sway bar made a HUGE difference in handling. It made it much more fun and safer to drive. Adding the rear sway bar also helped but was less noticeable. One thing to watch out for is how big of a sway bar you put where. If you have a rear wheel drive vehicle you want a bigger sway bar in the front and a smaller one in the rear to prevent understeer. It's the opposite for a front wheel drive setup. All in all, a great mod. Best bang for the handling buck! Great job on the install. Very clean truck.

08-02-2006, 03:54 PM	#32
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Already Gone...you are right....Only drove the truck once, and that was to the paint shop over 3 years ago. I will be able to tell you if I like the way the truck rides and feels, though. Shortly....with a little luck! Last edited by ChevyDude; 08-02-2006 at 03:56 PM.

08-02-2006, 04:19 PM	#33
boraxman Keepin an eye out Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: So.Cal Posts: 3,921	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Would the rear sway bar possibily eliminate the need for a panhard bar? __________________ 1970 Chevy C10 SWB 5.3 1996 Toyota Tacoma SR5 4x4 2007 Vespa GTS 250 Scooter ZIP 91351

08-02-2006, 04:49 PM	#34
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... No, panhard bar is to keep the differential from twisting. 4 link will eliminate panhard bar. Last edited by ChevyDude; 08-02-2006 at 04:50 PM.

08-02-2006, 07:05 PM	#35
bryanw1968 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Leander, Texas Posts: 850	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... When I installed the rear sway bar I could hug the corners much tighter. However I do notice now that if I'm going around a corner hard and there's a bump in it that my rear end hops some instead of absorbing the bump. All in all I like it though.

08-02-2006, 07:19 PM	#36
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... I am sure it will tighten up the suspension and travel...but I'm not looking for a Cadilac ride.

08-03-2006, 01:55 AM	#38
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Thanks for clearing that up...I am no expert for sure.

08-03-2006, 10:28 PM	#39
centsless sufficiently talented fool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Forest Hill, MD Posts: 2,231	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Very nice job on the sway bar. It really does look like it belongs there. Everything on your truck looks top notch!! I just got mine done, and looking at yours makes me think I need to re-do it!! Can't wait to see it all done __________________ "it's impossible to be surrounded by idiots when you are part of the circle" 2003 Suburban 2002 Pontiac Montana 1981 Corvette 1966 Impala Convertible Click here to support the board

08-03-2006, 11:16 PM	#40
smbrouss70 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Rayne, LA Posts: 2,784	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... no problem, Your truck sure is looking good. Make sure you post a thread with the finished pics of it! __________________ Steven "If dogs don't go to heaven, when I die I want to go wherever they went." -- Will Rogers R.I.P. Oscar R.I.P. Ratchet 1967 Pontiac GTO - Dad was the Original Owner 1970 Chevy 2wd SWB "Oscar's Truck" 1970 Chevy 2wd Blazer "Ratchet's Blazer" 2013 Chevy 2500HD Crew Cab Duramax/Allison Z71 LTZ "Brown Sugar" 2017 Chevy Suburban "BDB" 2020 Chevy Blazer Premier "Foxy" Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Shop Build

08-06-2006, 09:18 PM	#41
ChevyDude Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Westminster, CO Posts: 3,071	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Thanks Guys...will do!!!

08-05-2010, 06:02 PM	#42
ERASER5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,859	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Back from the dead! I needed to look at your rear sway bar pictures. My sway bar is a little different, but the frame mounts are similar. I would have never guessed it mounted that way! So thanks for your posts so long ago. __________________ '70 GMC C1500 LWB Power disc brakes. WooHoo! Posi 6 Lug Dana 60



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08-05-2010, 08:08 PM	#43
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... I found somewhere about camaro rear sway bars, never heard of how a sway bar handled with these trucks, I know the front did loads of good though.. __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

08-05-2010, 10:07 PM	#44
ERASER5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,859	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Never heard? Well, the word is GOOD! Hellwig is a popular brand. __________________ '70 GMC C1500 LWB Power disc brakes. WooHoo! Posi 6 Lug Dana 60

08-05-2010, 11:35 PM	#45
GMCshorty Registered User Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Calgary, Alberta Posts: 19	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Looks great. I was thinking about putting a rear bar on mine as well but my truck has leafs. What do you leaf spring guys use for a rear bar?

08-05-2010, 11:37 PM	#46
oldblue1968chevy Grandpa in the rustmobile... Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Spokane WA/Viola TN Posts: 11,422	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Is it as good of an upgrade as the front bar? __________________ John Goose-1968 C10 355,9.32-1CR, Vortec Heads ,262 voodoo, 3.73:1 3OTT (HS ride/beater/farm truck) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=317684 Grams 53-1953 Chevrolet Belair http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post4327784 1969 Chevy C10 Shortbed 4.5/6?" Frame off resto http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=548136 1999 Toyota Tacoma 4x4

08-06-2010, 02:36 AM	#47
ERASER5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,859	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... Front bar first. That will make world of difference. The rear will make a difference, but not as dramatic. I need to control 300 gallons of water sloshing back and forth. The rear sway will really help me there. Hellwig 7402 is for leaves. It will stiffen up the ride. I have use PST before with good luck, but that was on a car. __________________ '70 GMC C1500 LWB Power disc brakes. WooHoo! Posi 6 Lug Dana 60

08-06-2010, 03:20 AM	#48
rockvette Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Santa Fe,Texas Posts: 23	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... I have a 1964 1/2 ton short stepside with 1-1/4" in front and 1-1/8"in rear.This thing handles like a go-cart no leaning or swaying it is the best thingI could have done Got my kit from CCP __________________ 1972 corvette (454-4speed) 1960 corvette (283-2-4barrel-powerglide) 1966 corvette (427-4speed) 1964 chevrolet stepside (502-6speed) 2002 corvette (LS2-6speed) .... http://photobucket.com/rogers-64 under albums click Ineeda

08-06-2010, 07:19 AM	#50
djmachinist Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Katy, Texas Posts: 253	Re: Rear Anti-Sway bar arrived Friday... ChevyDude, Your truck build is awsome!! What Dia. rear bar did you use? I have the CPP 1 1/8in. dia rear bar with the 1 1/4 in. bar in the front. I have not installed the rear bar yet because I was afraid it would induce oversteer in a hard corner. Just the front bar keeps it pretty flat in corners, not much body roll. Let us know how that rear bar works when you get it back on the road. What I really want to here about is the Stereo set up you have behind the seat. I just installed a CPP rear alum. tank setup in my truck so I would have more room behind the seats. What is that black panel across the back of the cab made of? How is it attached? I see three shiny bolts at the top, is the cab doublewall where the bolts are located. I'm trying to figure out how to clean up the rear cab wall so I can install bucket seats and a console. I like what you did! Do tell all!!! Thanks, Dale __________________ 1969 GMC SWB FLEETSIDE ZZ 383 CRATE MOTOR,700R4,& 3.73 POSI & VINTAGE AIR DALE JONES MY BUILD THREAD: "69 GMC SHORT FLEET" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=388447 Last edited by djmachinist; 08-06-2010 at 07:22 AM.

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