72 Cheyenne C10 Super-Ouch-Ebay-

[70cst]

I think the truck has the wrong muffler bearings, This is a very nice truck but I'm not sure I would pay that kind of money. If it was an original low milage truck with factory options such as mentioned...then maybe. This is why we need to do some investigation before we buy. To me if one advertises as a Concours Restoration truck...then by George it should be as stated. IMO

[special-K]

This truck is fixed up just the way I(and most people)love then.Doesn`t everyone here?If not,better call the taste police!As mentioned,nothing on this truck couldn`t be changed to original.I know Chip didn`t intend to knock it or start a barrage of critiques.I always see all that as pure envy.
CheyenneSupers and CSTs could be ordered "Solid Paint".I`d have to look to see what the code is.
They called it a 400 just like they call 350s 350s when they are actually something like 347.???cid or something like that.It`s called rounding it off.
About the radio knobs,I just bought an AM for $10 with deluxe knobs.No big deal.I`m sure if anyone bought that they could find some on our parts board.

[70cst]

I agree that most people fixing up their trucks do not leave it original and make many of changes that suits their taste. This is good!!!
I think what most people are replying to is the statements such as ...

Concours Restoration- if originality is not a consideration than maybe...but I thought Concours meant original
1000pt -possibly I bet a new truck off the assembly line back then was never even close to a 1000 pt truck.
Museum Quality-Looks like it
#'s Match-most likely

Think abot the following...
*Because we are wholesale (this is a wholesale price? $33.995) ...
All prices at Speedway Motors have been researched so we are one of the lowest in the market.
We have priced ourselves extremely low in the marketplace without compromising quality.
We spend a lot of time hunting for good bargains , and pass the savings on to our eBay customers.

As mentioned this is a fantastic looking truck and I can only dream that my 70cst will ever look look so nice. If I had $34,000 to spend then this would be something to consider...but...if I was looking for a factory correct truck then this would not fit the bill. Can these items that make this an original truck incorrect be fixed...yes...but if I was going to spend this kind of money I would want it to be correct from the get go. IMO My truck will never be 100% original when I get her done...but its my choice.
What I have enjoyed is learning what little things on this truck makes this truck none original has been a fun and learning experience for me. There is so much that I do not know about these trucks...this is how I learn. From 67-72 Class 101 Isn't it neat how one truck can bring so many differrent opinions to the fore front. And the great truck maker in the sky said..."This is a

PS...I do hope this dealer finds a buyer who will appreciates this truck. It deserves a good home!

[jerry moss]

i agree with it being a nice truck---but definitly not a concours ride, and 1000point to boot, i think it's like my own truck, a factory super with a bunch of options added. to someone without knowledge of 67-72 trucks, i'm sure they would love to own it--hell, i'd love to own it. my only complaint is it is being advertised incorrectly. it's worth 25-30k if it's done right, at least thats what it would cost around here to build it.

[rodstored-72]

i agree with jerry moss. i really like the truck & i think that any regular car guy would think that it is all correct, i had a hard time telling what was "not" right. at the same time i feel the price is around $10,000 too high. for the market. just my 0.02. i am sure just like me there is (was) some "knucklehead" out there that would buy it in a heartbeat if the money is there. another view i think is that on average i believe that most new trucks cost around that or more & with this one you would get a few more looks than with a new one!!

oohhwell.... again just my 0.02..

keep up the good work guys.

[sameyrasmea72]

Originally Posted by Blazer1970

Wouldn't an original big block truck have come with a Dana 60 rear and not a 12 bolt? It would be interesting to see the SPID that is in this one.

I have several BB trucks/ parts trucks and they all have 12 bolt.

[67ChevyRedneck]

I LOVE IT!

Wish I was rich...

[manimal]

I would rather spend the money on that as opposed to a NEW truck. When a NEW 50,000 dollar truck is 5years old,what do you have? An OLD truck. Is it worth anymore? NO. When You buy an OLD CLASSIC truck,in 5 years you still have an OLD CLASSIC truck probably worth MORE! JMO
-Lance

[67ChevyRedneck]

In 1977 you were buying a depreciated "old truck," not a classic

[70cst]

See what happens when our trucks become ICONS!!

[71 super]

The two tone paint was optional just as many of the other things listed, so it could be a super without two tone paint. If the interior is correct the option list should state black vinyl trim istead of hounds tooth- Interior would have been parchment not black and the black vinyl houndstooth was not available it would have been white. The radio is a van unit notice where the delco name plate is located on left not right and numbers are too small originals are larger. The gas tank cover is attaced at the tank it's self not to the rear of the cab- originally they were attached with trim screws one visable on either corner and others hidden under the flap of the carpet and then glued to the actual tank. To my knowledge the vent color is correct- they should be the same color as the rest of the dash- not column color.

[PICKMUP]

That is a nicely detailed/prepped truck, but when that "concours & 1000pt museum" BS language is used...it better be all correct or serious buyers will smell a con.
There is also an extra wrong lower TG trim piece that has been added.

[EAST SIDE LOW LIFE]

Deffinition: Restoration, Restore ....

See pic's. for deffinition ....

Most cars/trucks that are restored are in fact over restored and therefore incorrect by FACTORY STANDARDS. The very fact the we accept Concours Restoration as a deffinition of the original state of our beloved trucks leaves room for criticism. Our trucks should be Factory correct restorations as they were when they left the factory. When an individual does a restoration to club, or to an automotive societies expectations one has to trust that the organisation is judging according to factory standards and not their own, and this is my point quite often it is not factory standards.

Numbers correct or Factory numbers correct there is a big difference between these two.

1. Numbers correct could be a restamped block, allot of automotive societys allow this to be done as part of the restoration process. BJ Auctions spouts off that the car has a gold spinner, top flight what ever award and everybody assumes this is the gosple .... I say buyer beware.

2. Factory numbers correct is stating that the numbers on the car are as they were when they left the factory. The owner is liable if this is fraudulent. Not so in case one.

I've witnessed owners of Corvettes replace or detail parts incorrectly to line up with society judging manuals only years later to see the manual change to what the owner had originaly. If you really took your truck or Corvette to a shop and wanted all the factory imperfections (poor workmanship) and factory anomalies left in you would not win and you would risk a lower selling price for the car. Most people have never seen a factory original correct restoration. The reason I know this is the shiny one wins.

esll.

1954 Corvette and the old man who owns it that we all have been disscussing lately ..... this is why that Corvette and it's history are so rare. This also is very rare when one finds one of our trucks or other cars with a like history as this 54 Vette.

Corvette Restoration
State of the Art .... author, Michael Antonick.

A worth while read on the subject of Restoration.

[special-K]

The truck`s worth the money.
Anyone real serious about this truck as an original wouldn`t be considering it after looking at the pictures.
GM never put a Dana60 in a C/10.
Solid paint is an option/Deluxe 2-tone is standard on a CheyenneSuper.
All this goes to show how few people know everything and the lister may just be one.

[EAST SIDE LOW LIFE]

Originally Posted by special-K

The truck`s worth the money.
Anyone real serious about this truck as an original wouldn`t be considering it after looking at the pictures.
GM never put a Dana60 in a C/10.
Solid paint is an option/Deluxe 2-tone is standard on a CheyenneSuper.
All this goes to show how few people know everything and the lister may just be one.

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X2

I agree with special-K. The cost of building this truck has to be considered separately and the concours thingy forgotten. All things aside $33,000 is not that much to build a truck to this condition and therefore worth the money. I think the workmanship is good and it shows. There is nothing about new that does it for me. I would buy this in a heart beat if I wanted a stock looking truck. I like my trucks modified so I would lower anything that I owned.

[J-Rod]

My dad has a 70 396 big block truck similar to this one for sale. I should take some more pics of it so you guys can pick it apart for me to see if it's "all original". In my opinion, my dad's truck is as nice as this one for about $10k less.

[special-K]

Bumper gaurds are 71/72.That is a fine factory truck there and worth damn good money.Maybe more than you think.Like new cars once off the lot,if it`s a fresh quality resto that`s "better than new" and before it`s been hardly driven it`s gonna be worth more.

[70cst]

As I sit back and read the various responses...I don't think cost as been the main issue. I for one agree that this truck is worth a lot of money...I'm not sure it is worth $33,000 but that is me. A lot of time and money went into that truck which is demanding a high price. I believe what we are taking except to is the way this truck was advertised ...that is the issue. This has been a very good learning thread for me as I see the items that are incorrect on this truck...if one wants a "factory" restored truck. These changes do not make this truck bad...it just makes it incorrect. I would be courious what this truck would be selling for if it was a 4x4? This is a great 101 thread! Keep it up!!!

[EAST SIDE LOW LIFE]

I for one know for a fact that $33,000 is NOT allot of money for this truck! If anyone thinks that the price is high for this truck then that tells me they have not done a complete rebuild on a truck now or in the past. This guy will be lucky to make a couple of thousand bucks at this selling price. I have a hard time thinking that these type of statements are made with out adding up the parts and material cost's as well as the selling price of the truck that one has to pay for a clean machine and I doubt that this was a ghetto cruiser to begin with as you can no longer take a $500.00 dollar truck and turn it into a sweet ride because of the costs involved.

The better the truck when buying it the less expensive the build. Dan42's recent truck purchase is a prime example. It's a nice clean truck that is well sought after .... it has all the elements that when purchasing a truck one has to consider. The average price to build a truck [Hot Rod or what ever] is $30.000. If you can do it for less you have a shop, and tools experience at your finger tips that you have money tied up in.

esll.

The concourse thingy well thats to bad it was described this way, but I must say we have allot of guys on the board that have a vast knowledge of factory trucks and this post and it's responses the way they have been given has had a very good learning curve to it. Thanks guys for keeping it to the point of sharing knowledge and not hacking this truck apart as this is how it should be.

[lo04chevy]

weren't the cheyennes two tone and long beds? We had a green and white 72 cheyenne with a 350. it was a long bed.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by lo04chevy

weren't the cheyennes two tone and long beds? We had a green and white 72 cheyenne with a 350. it was a long bed.

Read the other posts.I`ve addressed the two-tone question twice already and it`s accurate.
No,Cheyennes could be long/short,Fleet/Step,or cab`n`chassis in 60"cab-axle or 84" cab-axle,single or dual rear wheels.

[glock35ipsc]

Originally Posted by special-K

They called it a 400 just like they call 350s 350s when they are actually something like 347.???cid or something like that.It`s called rounding it off.

Close, 349.84857 cid.

Hmmm, that would make a funny fender badge! *349.84 V-8*

[Longhorn Man]

There's been some comments on us picking this truck apart. I can't quite tell if they are all sarcasm, or if they are from offended ppl becouse we are being so pickey on this truck.
Like i said in my first responce here;

only becouse the seller claims it is a Concours Restoration ... I will pick to this degree

This truck is sweet. It is totally bad ass if you ask me.
HOWEVER...
it is not being advertised acurately, and some schmuck is gonna be fooled into thinking it is 100% correct, becouse it looks dern close, and to the untrained eye, it looks dead on. Misrepresenting collectors cars/trucks is a big thing, and there are a few lawyers making a living off of it. There should be no reason to get burned on a hobby to the point of going to court. However, the average person ... even the typical gear head, can't pick up on a lot of the things we have listed. I didn't know about the seat covers being wrong! There was a few other things I didn't know untill they were brought up.
Now, one of the guys here who is new, who may have a butt load of cash laying around.. or enough credit to nab it, would be seriously peeved if they went out and bought this *100% correct* truck.
THAT is the reason we are picking it apart.

Again, it is a bad ass truck, and i know for a fact nothing I own will ever be that nice. It is leaps and bounds over any heap I'll ever have in my driveway. I'm not nit picking to make me feel better... I'm doing it to PROTECT anyone on here from being misled.

[Scott68-93-97]

Definatly a nice truck and restoration but not concours, the steering wheel is off a 70 1/2 to 78 camaro, The material on the seat was original to the camaro also, don't know if they came in the trucks??? And I beleive correct me if I'm wrong but the 400 badge goes with the small block 400 they had that badge for all small block 400's into the 80's when they stopped making it.??? they never changed from the 396 badge on the 402 being that it is a 30 over 396 same with chevelles they kept the 396 badge, all 69 and up 396's were 402 open the hood of a 69 chevelle SS the badge on the grill says 396 but the sticker on the radiator support says 402 just like the one on this truck, Chevrolet said the name the 396 "the rat" had become so popular they didn't want to change it when they bored it out in late 68. Look into it (I do know Chevrolet's like the back of my hand) but why would they just change the decal on the trucks and not have it read the actual cubic inches????

[Longhorn Man]

actually, the 402 movement was in 70, and in the trucks, they were badged 400. There was no 400 small block in this generation of truck.
To make things more confusing, the SPIC can say 396, 400, or 402.
The general was on good drugs back then too!