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Spray-Bomb · 02-12-2009, 01:54 AM

No, its .084

68C15 · 02-13-2009, 03:59 AM

have you priced caddy engine kits? wowsers! a SBC kit is $170, a big caddy kit is ~$800. that is why my 472 is still under the bench.

STINEY · 02-13-2009, 12:11 PM

Awesome project.

Looks like that intake was off a 425 engine, they used single plane while the 500 & 472 used a dual plane. You would likely pick up even more if you did the same mods to a early (non-egr) dual plane with better port flow & better match on the ports.

Sorry, but I have a 500 in a Fox mustang and another in a G-body Malibu. A 425 in a chevy van to tow with. You might say I have a thing for these engines.

Good luck! Wait till you see the crud that is surely in your oil pan, the rest of the oil shedders and possibly some plastic teeth from the timing gear will be plugging the pickup screen for sure, might want to uncrimp the shell of the pickup, dissassemble it and clean real well too.

noteron · 02-13-2009, 03:37 PM

Yikes...a 500 in a fox body...I bet thats fun to drive

FRENCHBLUE72 · 02-15-2009, 07:00 PM

Spray bomb you need to move to oregon and play with the rest of us kids..

LuckyHenriksen · 02-15-2009, 07:56 PM

How much does a 500 or 425 cad motor weigh fully dressed

LuckyHenriksen · 02-15-2009, 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FRENCHBLUE72

Spray bomb you need to move to oregon and play with the rest of us kids..

X2 lol

a1953mdl · 02-15-2009, 09:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LuckyHenriksen

How much does a 500 or 425 cad motor weigh fully dressed

Ready to run the Big Cad is about 600 lbs, no accessories. They say that is about 60 lbs heavier than a sbc. I have read it really about a hundred more.
You can always change the intake and iron manifolds and drop the weight by 40 lbs or so.
I have heard the 425 is about a hundred lighter so right in the weight of a 350. But 75 more cubes and tons more torque.

Lee

c10addict · 02-16-2009, 12:33 PM

Get back to work on Killer!!!!!!!! You said no Zumo till Killer was done!

ST Dog · 02-16-2009, 12:40 PM

If this wasn't a low $$ build, there are two different aluminum heads for the 500 now. MTS bought the old Bulldog heads and reworked the design so it's more usable. And CPP has scratch designed head for all out builds.

*project 67 sub* · 02-16-2009, 08:07 PM

holy crap, thats a lot of money for a set of heads. but if i had a 472 or 500 caddy engine, and the money for them id probably think about buying a set of those

LuckyHenriksen · 02-17-2009, 12:30 AM

Those CPP heads are def. the way to roll. Drop some nice weight too

ST Dog · 02-17-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by project 67 sub

holy crap, thats a lot of money for a set of heads.

Compared to what?

These BB Chevy heads are $1800+ each, or $3600 a pair.
http://www.dartheads.com/products/cy...o-2-heads.html

Or these for $3150
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...?part=AFR-2000

Or maybe these that are $2750 each
http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku

Sure, you can get Edelbrock heads for $1800 a pair, but $2700 or $2900 isn't really expensive.

c10addict · 02-17-2009, 10:36 AM

Good heads are the best investment in really making a motor a monster... Gotta pay to play!

BACKYARD88 · 02-17-2009, 02:57 PM

Subscribed

Zumo · 04-12-2009, 01:41 AM

How did a truck get named after me? Am I that cool?!

NebraskaC/20 · 04-12-2009, 03:49 AM

Awesome.I need to see more.

texanidiot25 · 04-12-2009, 10:12 AM

Come on lazy ass!

Spray-Bomb · 04-12-2009, 11:58 AM

Working full time now, so Im just saving money for my projects right now

Zumo · 04-13-2009, 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zumo

How did a truck get named after me? Am I that cool?!

So are we ignoring the question? I'm fatter....er...I mean flattered.

70rs/ss · 04-14-2009, 04:44 PM

I just read an article in the newest car craft, dude scored a sweet Caddy (whole deal in minty fresh grandma-ness) put a single turbo on it and is dropping 13's @ 106 MPH, yeah is a nearly 3 ton 4-door cruise ship, if you get it together you should have a beast on your hands. Another thought would be to hunt a complete cad with a 500 in it, bet you could score a good low miler car cheaper than you could build your 500!? Worth a shot, dude in CC got his boat for $500 and drove it home!!

Says 65-75 Calais, De Ville, and Fleetwood, but NOT the 67 and later Fleetwood Eldorado, and NOT the 75 and later Seville, as in the "look fors" have 500 ci.

ulakovic22 · 04-14-2009, 05:11 PM

$2500 to $3000 for a pair of assembled heads, assuming the springs will work, isnt that bad really. Don't compare them to those Big Duke heads though. I got my RHS heads for $1300 bare and then tossed on another $1500 for a spring kit and Manley valves. I got my heads cheaper through my engine builder too so if I would have bought them retail I wuold have spent more.

LuckyHenriksen · 04-14-2009, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70rs/ss

I just read an article in the newest car craft, dude scored a sweet Caddy (whole deal in minty fresh grandma-ness) put a single turbo on it and is dropping 13's @ 106 MPH, yeah is a nearly 3 ton 4-door cruise ship, if you get it together you should have a beast on your hands. Another thought would be to hunt a complete cad with a 500 in it, bet you could score a good low miler car cheaper than you could build your 500!? Worth a shot, dude in CC got his boat for $500 and drove it home!!

Says 65-75 Calais, De Ville, and Fleetwood, but NOT the 67 and later Fleetwood Eldorado, and NOT the 75 and later Seville, as in the "look fors" have 500 ci.

read the same story, that thing was pretty sweet. running some sort of old diesel turbo too.....

AlienYouth · 04-14-2009, 11:25 PM

you are my hero.

ST Dog · 04-15-2009, 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 70rs/ss

Says 65-75 Calais, De Ville, and Fleetwood, but NOT the 67 and later Fleetwood Eldorado, and NOT the 75 and later Seville, as in the "look fors" have 500 ci.

I really hope that you mistyped that. If the magazine actually printed that then they have no editing/fact checking standards.

The 500 was in 70-74 Eldos, and all '75-76 Cadillacs except the Seville.

68-74 RWD cars had 472 engines (68 and 609 Eldos as well).

65-67 cars have a completely different engine family. The 429 in them was an updated version of the family that stated as a 331 in 1949.

02-12-2009, 01:54 AM	#26
Spray-Bomb Texas Big Wig Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 5,620	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck No, its .084 __________________ Just not low enough... ----------------------------- Sinister Killer

02-13-2009, 03:59 AM	#27
68C15 blood type; Retumbo Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: next to my reloading bench Posts: 10,269	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck have you priced caddy engine kits? wowsers! a SBC kit is $170, a big caddy kit is ~$800. that is why my 472 is still under the bench.

02-13-2009, 12:11 PM	#28
STINEY Registered User Join Date: May 2008 Location: Bucyrus Ohio Posts: 32	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Awesome project. Looks like that intake was off a 425 engine, they used single plane while the 500 & 472 used a dual plane. You would likely pick up even more if you did the same mods to a early (non-egr) dual plane with better port flow & better match on the ports. Sorry, but I have a 500 in a Fox mustang and another in a G-body Malibu. A 425 in a chevy van to tow with. You might say I have a thing for these engines. Good luck! Wait till you see the crud that is surely in your oil pan, the rest of the oil shedders and possibly some plastic teeth from the timing gear will be plugging the pickup screen for sure, might want to uncrimp the shell of the pickup, dissassemble it and clean real well too.

02-13-2009, 03:37 PM	#29
noteron Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Fresno, Ca Posts: 89	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Yikes...a 500 in a fox body...I bet thats fun to drive

02-15-2009, 07:00 PM	#30
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,606	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Spray bomb you need to move to oregon and play with the rest of us kids.. __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

02-15-2009, 07:56 PM	#31
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck How much does a 500 or 425 cad motor weigh fully dressed __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

02-16-2009, 12:33 PM	#34
c10addict Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,970	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Get back to work on Killer!!!!!!!! You said no Zumo till Killer was done! __________________ 68 C10 Shorty TPI,Bagged, and all the good stuff. Classic trucks feature June 06, On the cover of Jegs Christmas Catalog 08 67 C10 Shorty Shop truck project Bagged and Z'd under destruction and getting nowhere fast. 64 C10 Shop Truck/Daily driver, Bagged, Dropmember, SOLD!!!! Gone but not forgotten.. 54 GMC under the knife getting a S10 chassis swap and bagged. See my build thread... 07 GMC Sierra 5/7 drop, 22's and 24's Air ride on my mind.. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=339340 See pics of my trucks in my profile

02-16-2009, 12:40 PM	#35
ST Dog Registered User Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: BFE Mississippi Posts: 23	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck If this wasn't a low $$ build, there are two different aluminum heads for the 500 now. MTS bought the old Bulldog heads and reworked the design so it's more usable. And CPP has scratch designed head for all out builds.

02-16-2009, 08:07 PM	#36
project 67 sub Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: san bernardino ca. everywhere Posts: 3,938	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck holy crap, thats a lot of money for a set of heads. but if i had a 472 or 500 caddy engine, and the money for them id probably think about buying a set of those Last edited by project 67 sub; 02-16-2009 at 08:09 PM.

02-17-2009, 12:30 AM	#37
LuckyHenriksen Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Sherwood Oregon Posts: 1,908	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Those CPP heads are def. the way to roll. Drop some nice weight too __________________ 1968 Yenko Chevy LWB 6.0L/TH400 3/4 Drop Senior Project Build Thread Here

02-17-2009, 10:36 AM	#39
c10addict Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: pittsburgh pa Posts: 1,970	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Good heads are the best investment in really making a motor a monster... Gotta pay to play! __________________ 68 C10 Shorty TPI,Bagged, and all the good stuff. Classic trucks feature June 06, On the cover of Jegs Christmas Catalog 08 67 C10 Shorty Shop truck project Bagged and Z'd under destruction and getting nowhere fast. 64 C10 Shop Truck/Daily driver, Bagged, Dropmember, SOLD!!!! Gone but not forgotten.. 54 GMC under the knife getting a S10 chassis swap and bagged. See my build thread... 07 GMC Sierra 5/7 drop, 22's and 24's Air ride on my mind.. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=339340 See pics of my trucks in my profile

02-17-2009, 02:57 PM	#40
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04-12-2009, 01:41 AM	#41
Zumo Hot Rods For Life Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Waxahachie, TX Posts: 3,305	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck How did a truck get named after me? Am I that cool?! __________________ 1968 C10 LWB **SOLD* Andy Viva Los Bicicletas! Los Muertos Custom Bicycles

04-12-2009, 03:49 AM	#42
NebraskaC/20 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Omaha, Nebraska Posts: 9	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Awesome.I need to see more.

04-12-2009, 10:12 AM	#43
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04-12-2009, 11:58 AM	#44
Spray-Bomb Texas Big Wig Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Mineola, Texas Posts: 5,620	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck Working full time now, so Im just saving money for my projects right now __________________ Just not low enough... ----------------------------- Sinister Killer

04-14-2009, 04:44 PM	#46
70rs/ss Registered User Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 7,270	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck I just read an article in the newest car craft, dude scored a sweet Caddy (whole deal in minty fresh grandma-ness) put a single turbo on it and is dropping 13's @ 106 MPH, yeah is a nearly 3 ton 4-door cruise ship, if you get it together you should have a beast on your hands. Another thought would be to hunt a complete cad with a 500 in it, bet you could score a good low miler car cheaper than you could build your 500!? Worth a shot, dude in CC got his boat for $500 and drove it home!! Says 65-75 Calais, De Ville, and Fleetwood, but NOT the 67 and later Fleetwood Eldorado, and NOT the 75 and later Seville, as in the "look fors" have 500 ci. Last edited by 70rs/ss; 04-14-2009 at 04:45 PM.

04-14-2009, 05:11 PM	#47
ulakovic22 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Lantana, TX Posts: 419	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck $2500 to $3000 for a pair of assembled heads, assuming the springs will work, isnt that bad really. Don't compare them to those Big Duke heads though. I got my RHS heads for $1300 bare and then tossed on another $1500 for a spring kit and Manley valves. I got my heads cheaper through my engine builder too so if I would have bought them retail I wuold have spent more.

04-14-2009, 11:25 PM	#49
AlienYouth Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Westminster, Maryland Posts: 411	Re: Project Zumo... Drag truck you are my hero. __________________ Picturesss 71 C10 383/TH400 13.65 @ 99... 2.06 60' spinnin :/

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