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Old 12-16-2016, 11:33 AM   #1
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Re: Cab fuel filler to rear tank

I'm sorry man. I'm all for custom, but I think this is just dumb.

moving the tank for more capacity- ok great idea.

running filler in stock location- you still have gas in the cab. not the tank, but you still have the potential for gas to leak inside the cab so any safety you gain by moving the tank is gone.

weight for control? its 30 lbs and you have the stock engine from what I saw so you aren't drag racing so this 30 lbs is totally irrelivant.
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Old 12-16-2016, 03:10 PM   #2
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I'm sorry man. I'm all for custom, but I think this is just dumb.

moving the tank for more capacity- ok great idea.

running filler in stock location- you still have gas in the cab. not the tank, but you still have the potential for gas to leak inside the cab so any safety you gain by moving the tank is gone.

weight for control? its 30 lbs and you have the stock engine from what I saw so you aren't drag racing so this 30 lbs is totally irrelivant.
First, I think you could've chosen better words. Calling someone's work dumb isn't conducive to conversation. Not trying to start a flame war, just sayin there's better ways to say you don't agree or wouldn't do it yourself.

A gallon of gasoline is roughly 6lbs so Metaldoc did add 30lbs. But he moved over 120lbs towards the rear of the truck, not just 30lbs. Doesn't matter what you're doing, moving weight to the rear on a nose heavy truck is a win in my opinion.

As far as safety. Yeah there's still at least the potential for fuel in the cab with this setup. All the parts inside the cab are solid with no rubber joints so leaks inside the cab while filling aren't really an issue unless there's a bad weld. Biggest issue is with being rear ended. If he was hit hard enough to crush the tank and push fuel up the filler it's likely the tank would be punctured as well reducing how much fuel is forced forward. Then there's the 2 couplings outside the cab which could come apart before fuel was forced into the cab. It's not 100% but either of those could happen reducing or eliminating fuel even coming back into the cab at all. Plus the parts inside the cab are solid welded so they'd have to break open before fuel any fuel that was forced forward could leak into the cab.

If you're not comfy with those odds nobody will blame you for going with something different. We all make choices with our trucks based on tastes, skill level, etc. In my opinion there's no reason to call this unsafe, not worth the effort and it especially can't be called dumb.

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Old 12-16-2016, 04:45 PM   #3
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First, I think you could've chosen better words. Calling someone's work dumb isn't conducive to conversation. Not trying to start a flame war, just sayin there's better ways to say you don't agree or wouldn't do it yourself.

A gallon of gasoline is roughly 6lbs so Metaldoc did add 30lbs. But he moved over 120lbs towards the rear of the truck, not just 30lbs. Doesn't matter what you're doing, moving weight to the rear on a nose heavy truck is a win in my opinion.

As far as safety. Yeah there's still at least the potential for fuel in the cab with this setup. All the parts inside the cab are solid with no rubber joints so leaks inside the cab while filling aren't really an issue unless there's a bad weld. Biggest issue is with being rear ended. If he was hit hard enough to crush the tank and push fuel up the filler it's likely the tank would be punctured as well reducing how much fuel is forced forward. Then there's the 2 couplings outside the cab which could come apart before fuel was forced into the cab. It's not 100% but either of those could happen reducing or eliminating fuel even coming back into the cab at all. Plus the parts inside the cab are solid welded so they'd have to break open before fuel any fuel that was forced forward could leak into the cab.

If you're not comfy with those odds nobody will blame you for going with something different. We all make choices with our trucks based on tastes, skill level, etc. In my opinion there's no reason to call this unsafe, not worth the effort and it especially can't be called dumb.
100 % right and I'm a certified welder. I have all position welding tickets for mild steel, stainless, Inconel, chromoly, zirconium, cast iron, hard facing. I do trust me. The fill tube is bolted to the frame in case of rear ended.
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Old 12-16-2016, 07:47 PM   #4
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Re: Cab fuel filler to rear tank

What is the problem with this ? I say it is no different than some of the other custom mods people have tried. I say great job! ! 😆 As far as the dumb comment i believe it says on the rules of this forum if you don't like it keep your comments to yourself. What an ignorant thing to say.
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Old 12-16-2016, 08:27 PM   #5
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100 % right and I'm a certified welder. I have all position welding tickets for mild steel, stainless, Inconel, chromoly, zirconium, cast iron, hard facing. I do trust me. The fill tube is bolted to the frame in case of rear ended.
I've read your entire build thread and can see the quality of your work. Love the truck and your work btw. I know you weren't defending yourself from me but to clarify, my post was intended to describe worst case scenarios. Worst case scenario it would take... blah blah blah and so on and so forth.

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What is the problem with this ? I say it is no different than some of the other custom mods people have tried. I say great job! ! 😆 As far as the dumb comment i believe it says on the rules of this forum if you don't like it keep your comments to yourself. What an ignorant thing to say.
^I'm with you on this. It's one thing to discuss by raising concerns, offering advice on a potentially better way or something like that. But to just say it's dumb, well, let's just say I agree with your last sentence and leave it at that.
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:03 PM   #6
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Re: Cab fuel filler to rear tank

I don't like it, too nice, too perfect, too OEM, lol. It looks awesome!
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Old 12-17-2016, 08:21 PM   #7
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I've read your entire build thread and can see the quality of your work. Love the truck and your work btw. I know you weren't defending yourself from me but to clarify, my post was intended to describe worst case scenarios. Worst case scenario it would take... blah blah blah and so on and so forth.
Thanks I take pride in my work and I do take safety serious. I don't think I would do these mods without qualifications. I bypass all the drama in life and only take good out of what's said. Not everyone agrees with choices anyone makes. Drive the trucks and enjoy them as I do every time I'm in it.


^I'm with you on this. It's one thing to discuss by raising concerns, offering advice on a potentially better way or something like that. But to just say it's dumb, well, let's just say I agree with your last sentence and leave it at that.
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I don't like it, too nice, too perfect, too OEM, lol. It looks awesome!
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Old 12-30-2016, 05:28 PM   #8
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Re: Cab fuel filler to rear tank

I really like this idea, I like the classic look of the filler tube on the cab, but agree it is a swell idea to remove the fuel from the cab. Do you forsee any filling delay with the long horizontal run you have to the tank?
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Old 12-30-2016, 06:57 PM   #9
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I really like this idea, I like the classic look of the filler tube on the cab, but agree it is a swell idea to remove the fuel from the cab. Do you forsee any filling delay with the long horizontal run you have to the tank?
Thanks it has worked out great, I've already put a couple of tanks in it and it runs about 3/4 on the fill nozzle. No big deal to me as I'm in no hurry these days and it's only a summer truck so all good.
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Old 12-30-2016, 08:40 PM   #10
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That looks great! Really good idea.
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Old 04-30-2021, 02:02 AM   #11
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Re: Cab fuel filler to rear tank

I'm installing a blazer tank side fill under the bed. But plan on filling through the bed wheel well. But was thinking of keeping the original fill neck on the cab for the original look.
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