What about “fixing” the patina

[Coley]

You have a good initial look for the patina...and it clearly your choice.
For me, I would:
1) NOT add those paint embellishments along the bottom....too 1970's/80's for me
2) Clear coat it to make the patina really 'pop'.
3) Paint those steelies white like you've shown
4) Go to a whitewall tire....the black tires are too dark and lose contrast within the whole appearance, while the whitewalls would draw attention because of the contrast they generate by showing black/white/black/white and then the truck body....hopefully that makes sense.

That's my two bits....but hey, its your truck.
All good
Coley

[Coley]

Oh....a couple more quick follow ups:
-Change over to a rear sport bumper and store the step bumper...it currently isn't complimenting the truck in my opinion.
-Find a way to add some mint, minor brightwork on the side somewhere or make sure both bumpers are new/chrome.
Patina, in my opinion is not necessarily dull....and it relies heavily on some items being perfect and some appearing weathered but very apparent and appealing...hence the concept of 'clear coating' worn paint to make it shiny.

All Good
Coley

[67_C-30]

Originally Posted by Coley

Oh....a couple more quick follow ups:
-Change over to a rear sport bumper and store the step bumper...it currently isn't complimenting the truck in my opinion.
-Find a way to add some mint, minor brightwork on the side somewhere or make sure both bumpers are new/chrome.
Patina, in my opinion is not necessarily dull....and it relies heavily on some items being perfect and some appearing weathered but very apparent and appealing...hence the concept of 'clear coating' worn paint to make it shiny.

All Good
Coley

Opinions are like bellybuttons as they say, but I personally am not a fan of clear coated patina at all. To me, it totally misses the point. The dull, weathered paint, with either refreshed or new wheels. I do like freshened up bumpers, trim, and other bits to have some contrast, but the clear coat has always been a no-go for me.

Of course, like I said, my opinion and like $4 will buy you a cup of coffee at Starbucks.

[Abomb]

If I would clear it, it would be satin clear, dripping wet patina looks wrong to me...however, after getting frustrated trying to get the brakes working decent, by myself, which is pretty much a no go since I don’t have a vacuum bleeder...I noticed a bottle of heavy duty rubbing compound on a shelf... I hand rubbed some spots to see what would come back, and I think for now I’m going to buff the poop out of it and reevaluate the situation....

[sick472]

You've got a good patina'd truck. You only get that once, naturally. I believe in natural patina only. Clean it, buff, it wax it, maybe do some rust hole repairs and leave in primer, but no clear coat, no painting and sanding back through. About the only thing I would consider is adding a personalized fake patina'd logo to the doors. Beyond that, patina should be earned not made.

There are some great artist that can fake-tina really, really well, but it's not the same. I really like the last photo you post of your truck cleaned up. Maybe think about the white wheels, but the look you have is great. I might even think about some raised letters, but stick with the black rims the next time you need to buy tires.

[Abomb]

Cleanliness won out, I’ve already touched up the doors, and next I’m going to mask and clean up the red on the hood and roof...I’m actually a pretty decent artist, and have already blended some patina in over repairs on another truck...it’s not too hard to do with just good quality paint in spray cans and a good buffer...you just need an eye for when, where, and how much paint would naturally wear and fade. My reasoning for this is the fact that a previous owner has already gotten carried away and over sanded to create “more” patina...it’s unnatural now, and I know I can fix it...plus, the existing paint is responding really well to some buffing....stay tuned for pictures....

[Abomb]

And eventually, a door logo...My sons high school team is the Red Devils, so I’m thinking of a modified version of this...

[Coley]

The patina thing is an interesting thing...and has a lot of validity, so why does it sometimes bring on the flack?

For me, the idea of a nicely worn truck still in use is something I greatly appreciate. If it was a good runner and a solid, useful truck...then its earned its patina stripes and I probably wouldn't mess with it much....nor would I mess with most of its originality.
With those circumstances it would indeed be 'the real deal'...and we probably all appreciate that.

Where it seems to come off the rails is the portrayal of a truck looking worn....so not many people like imposters, lol...so the patina's sometimes bring criticism for this possibility.
Now this seems to 'amp' up when a patina'd truck starts to dip into the heavy 5 figure $$ investment range to get it there, so it looks economic or basic or cheap or?....then it starts to be a slightly confusing situation.

Regardless of opinion up or down, we are all different and have different tastes and would park beside a patina truck (original or 'made') all day long....no sweat, no trouble, no problems.
Build and drive what you like....and respect and appreciate those around you.

All good
Coley

[saxart]

I think your plans in the original post are good. If nothing else, it needs to lose the green hood. It's just too much going on. I like how you've tied the red from the roof into the top of the hood to make it more of a cohesive look. I could go either way on the blue shapes you've designed. I see what you're doing there, but to some it's a turn off. Have you thought about getting rid of that bottom blue section all together with some white paint? If someone were good with fogging it into the white that is already on the truck, you'd barely be able to tell, and could keep the worn doors and rear fender tops. (Don't go that high with the white paint and maybe scuff up the fender steps to bring back some of the worn look.)

Here's a philosophical thought for all to consider. You said the truck was delivered as a forest dept truck. Originally it was green, then someone obviously painted the entire truck red (you can see red paint showing through down under the blue at the bottom) who knows how the white and blue got there. So the truck has already been painted 2-3 times in it's life. It's painting it again really ruining anything? To me that's just another page of the history book. I'd make the top of the hood red, and get rid of the blue with white paint, then see what you've got. If you don't like that, you could always paint it that beautiful green the Grumpy suggested. LOL

Like Coley said above, build and drive what you like...and respect and appreciate those around you. This is a cool thread.

[Abomb]

Originally Posted by saxart

I think your plans in the original post are good. If nothing else, it needs to lose the green hood. It's just too much going on. I like how you've tied the red from the roof into the top of the hood to make it more of a cohesive look. I could go either way on the blue shapes you've designed. I see what you're doing there, but to some it's a turn off. Have you thought about getting rid of that bottom blue section all together with some white paint? If someone were good with fogging it into the white that is already on the truck, you'd barely be able to tell, and could keep the worn doors and rear fender tops. (Don't go that high with the white paint and maybe scuff up the fender steps to bring back some of the worn look.)

Here's a philosophical thought for all to consider. You said the truck was delivered as a forest dept truck. Originally it was green, then someone obviously painted the entire truck red (you can see red paint showing through down under the blue at the bottom) who knows how the white and blue got there. So the truck has already been painted 2-3 times in it's life. It's painting it again really ruining anything? To me that's just another page of the history book. I'd make the top of the hood red, and get rid of the blue with white paint, then see what you've got. If you don't like that, you could always paint it that beautiful green the Grumpy suggested. LOL

Like Coley said above, build and drive what you like...and respect and appreciate those around you. This is a cool thread.

It’s actually only been painted once, what looks like red showing through the blue is surface rust from sanding off a phone number. The spid shows special green paint, for the Forrest service, and then I believe the red white and blue dates back to Carr Auto Electric, who used it as a service or shop truck...Just the brush strokes that remain lets me know that their signage was on top of the red white and blue...if this had never been sanded off, I wouldn’t be touching it, but who knows how many previous owners have taken sand paper to it since...I get it though, you wouldn’t sell a company truck to someone and leave your information all over the side of it I guess....

[saxart]

Originally Posted by Abomb

It’s actually only been painted once, what looks like red showing through the blue is surface rust from sanding off a phone number. The spid shows special green paint, for the Forrest service, and then I believe the red white and blue dates back to Carr Auto Electric, who used it as a service or shop truck...Just the brush strokes that remain lets me know that their signage was on top of the red white and blue...if this had never been sanded off, I wouldn’t be touching it, but who knows how many previous owners have taken sand paper to it since...I get it though, you wouldn’t sell a company truck to someone and leave your information all over the side of it I guess....

Oh, I thought I saw some red poking through on the driver's side rear fender step.

[Abomb]

For better or worse, I did it...it still needs buffed some more, actually, the whole truck will get a good buffing, and a coat of wax...

[Abomb]

A little touching up, and a lot of buffing, and here it is...

[67_C-30]

That truck is some 8" steelies on the rear and some '67 factory dog dishes from being perfect! (IMO)

[Abomb]

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

That truck is some 8" steelies on the rear and some '67 factory dog dishes from being perfect! (IMO)

Thanks, and I am actively looking for both...

[67_C-30]

Are you planning on white or chrome caps?

[Abomb]

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

Are you planning on white or chrome caps?

I just looked on eBay, holy cow, people are proud of those...I guess I’d rather have stainless or chrome, however, if I stumble across white ones, they sure looked good on white wheels on your 68...

[Abomb]

Originally Posted by 67_C-30

That truck is some 8" steelies on the rear and some '67 factory dog dishes from being perfect! (IMO)

Boom!!!

A little dent tapping, a little polishing, and some fresh one shot paint, and it’ll be perfect...in our opinion.

[nlped]

Obviously I dig the patina look. My ‘68, Walter, is going to wear his original beat paint. It’ll have all the goodies underneath, but I’ll be able to park him wherever I want to.

[saxart]

Wow! That truck looks 1,000-times better already. Nice work. I agree about the 8" steelies and maybe some 255's/70's. Nice job!

[clay68c10]

Wow, that looks great. I’d drive that anywhere.

[HO455]

If your going to logo the door may I suggest something vintage like these as opposed to the "Generic Speed/Hotrod Shop". Which you find at every car event.

[Abomb]

A long over do update...hopefully before this winter is up, it will have a borg Warner T5 5speed overdrive transmission in it...

[Abomb]

I like Walter already...

[toolboxchev]

We better watch out for Walter when he twizzles his mustache!