'66 Sunbeam Minx Project - F20C/6sp/4-link/Discs...

[sleepertruck72]

All I can say is, This is one awesome ride If you havent already, now would be a good time to do the timing belt/water pump before you squeeze the life out of that engine !!!

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by sleepertruck72

All I can say is, This is one awesome ride If you havent already, now would be a good time to do the timing belt/water pump before you squeeze the life out of that engine !!!

Thanks man. I will be replacing the timing belt when I do the head gasket. Water pump is a good idea too.

[VA72C10]

looking great....love the tucked front rim. I know it was a lot of work but WELL worth it...

[gofast182]

Frizzle Fry: Wow is all I can say. I picked up on this build from an S2000 forum and I'm amazed at your metal working abilities and thoroughness. This thread has become addictive. I may not look at it for a while, come back, see the pics of the latest progress, read every post, and then keep checking hoping there will be more.


sleepertruck72: Just for some extra background and to show how good Honda is at building engines...the F20C uses a timing chain so there's no belt to replace, the internals are all forged so it's incredibly durable (many S2000 owners have added a turbo setup to the F20 and are putting down 580+HP to the rear wheels on the stock block and head), it has carbon fiber reinforced cylinder linings, molybdenum coated piston skirts, it held a record for fastest piston speed (4965 ft/min) which used to be in F1 engine territory, and it held the distinction of having the highest specific output (HP/liter) of any naturally aspirated production engine @120hp/liter until Ferrari released the 458 Italia just last year. To keep all of this in perspective, the F20 was designed in the late 1990's.

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by gofast182

Frizzle Fry: Wow is all I can say. I picked up on this build from an S2000 forum and I'm amazed at your metal working abilities and thoroughness. This thread has become addictive. I may not look at it for a while, come back, see the pics of the latest progress, read every post, and then keep checking hoping there will be more.


sleepertruck72: Just for some extra background and to show how good Honda is at building engines...the F20C uses a timing chain so there's no belt to replace, the internals are all forged so it's incredibly durable (many S2000 owners have added a turbo setup to the F20 and are putting down 580+HP to the rear wheels on the stock block and head), it has carbon fiber reinforced cylinder linings, molybdenum coated piston skirts, it held a record for fastest piston speed (4965 ft/min) which used to be in F1 engine territory, and it held the distinction of having the highest specific output (HP/liter) of any naturally aspirated production engine @120hp/liter until Ferrari released the 458 Italia just last year. To keep all of this in perspective, the F20 was designed in the late 1990's.

You know, I actually knew it had a chain but that somehow escaped me on that last post ...I haven't had an F20C apart myself yet, but I've watched a few vids on valve adjustment. One less $$$ part to replace

Thanks for the post. Amazing specs indeed Can't wait to fire it up!

[gofast182]

Yep, all you really need to worry about is making sure the valves are adjusted and you may want to replace the timing chain tensioner (these have a tendency to make noise over time). Other than that, keep synthetic oil in it and LET HER RIP!
Also I don't know if you have the stock airbox but Honda also did a really good job on it, it's ducted very well so bolt-ons won't really give you an advantage there.

Edit: Do you have/are you able to use the S2000 rear? It's a nice Torsen limited slip unit, 4.10 gears, I just don't know how well it would hold up to "Driftbeam" action

[sleepertruck72]

sleepertruck72: Just for some extra background and to show how good Honda is at building engines...the F20C uses a timing chain so there's no belt to replace, the internals are all forged so it's incredibly durable (many S2000 owners have added a turbo setup to the F20 and are putting down 580+HP to the rear wheels on the stock block and head), it has carbon fiber reinforced cylinder linings, molybdenum coated piston skirts, it held a record for fastest piston speed (4965 ft/min) which used to be in F1 engine territory, and it held the distinction of having the highest specific output (HP/liter) of any naturally aspirated production engine @120hp/liter until Ferrari released the 458 Italia just last year. To keep all of this in perspective, the F20 was designed in the late 1990's. [/QUOTE]


Thanks for that info ! I guess I need to re-subscribe to Super Street magazine That's less work for Frizzle Fry !

[Jvsapp]

hey FF i might be in your neck of the woods next week. well im gonna be in seattle, and the wife wants to check out the twilight filming places in oregon so it warrants a trip. how far are you from st helens?

[Frizzle Fry]

About 40min south on hwy. 30. Let me know if you want to stop by. You can see the other project that's been soaking up my time... (house).

[ERASER5]

Am I the only one to notice that this page has NO PICTURES!

[gofast182]

Originally Posted by ERASER5

Am I the only one to notice that this page has NO PICTURES!

Nope
I've been checking once a day.

[Frizzle Fry]

You want pics? here you go. This is what's soaking up all my time:




...but I have the best help no money could buy


Probably won't see progress on the Minx until late Aug.

[67cheby]

wow... i guess my moto "safety third" doesnt apply at your house,.....GOGGLES AND A MASK !!!

[sparkydog]

I hate it when your family is more of a priority than my need to see you work on the car!

[67ChevyRedneck]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

Probably won't see progress on the Minx until late Aug.

I don't envy you. I did my kitchen about 6 months ago. Technically, I'm still not done, I have to paint the base and crown trim. Hey, it came "primed" so it "looks" done

Originally Posted by sparkydog

I hate it when your family is more of a priority than my need to see you work on the car!

[OLDIRON69]

Grrrrr...remodeling! Hate doing it, but great when it's done. (kinda like a fat chick)

[ERASER5]

PICS! Yea! And the Minx was included! The car too... Seriously somethings just have priority, and keeping your helper happy is almost priceless. Or at least 1/2 priceless. My guess is there will be something tricked out in the Kitchen too.

Thanks from an avid follower.

[pickup67man]

Familiar with delays. Spent 2 months shopping for bathroom and 2 months in the bathroom. (Insert joke here). Had to make the boss happy. I did get to buy more tools. But for me the bathroom still worked fine. What do I know. Now she wants a kitchen.

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by 67cheby

wow... i guess my moto "safety third" doesnt apply at your house,.....GOGGLES AND A MASK !!!

You never know when that electric sander might blow up in your face...

Originally Posted by sparkydog

I hate it when your family is more of a priority than my need to see you work on the car!

I promise it won't happen again

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

I don't envy you. I did my kitchen about 6 months ago. Technically, I'm still not done, I have to paint the base and crown trim. Hey, it came "primed" so it "looks" done

Nothing I do is ever "done" I have a finiphobia...

Originally Posted by OLDIRON69

Grrrrr...remodeling! Hate doing it, but great when it's done. (kinda like a fat chick)

This is really just a light make over, not a full remodel. We couldn't take the yellow any longer... then it became a case of "while we're in there" sorta like doing an engine swap in an old British car.

Originally Posted by ERASER5

PICS! Yea! And the Minx was included! The car too... Seriously somethings just have priority, and keeping your helper happy is almost priceless. Or at least 1/2 priceless. My guess is there will be something tricked out in the Kitchen too.

Thanks from an avid follower.

Big plans for the whole house ...in about two years. For now it's just a matter of making it livable. New paint, backsplash delete, paint cabinets, new window trim and baseboards. Wish we could do the floors and counters but that will come later along with some wall relocation

Originally Posted by pickup67man

Familiar with delays. Spent 2 months shopping for bathroom and 2 months in the bathroom. (Insert joke here). Had to make the boss happy. I did get to buy more tools. But for me the bathroom still worked fine. What do I know. Now she wants a kitchen.

One of the benefits of getting her involved is that she now understands the benefits of having the right tools for the job. A couple days ago she insisted I go out and buy a paint sprayer

[Jvsapp]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

One of the benefits of getting her involved is that she now understands the benefits of having the right tools for the job. A couple days ago she insisted I go out and buy a paint sprayer

dang FF well keeping the helper happy does help.

paint sprayer.... hmmmm as in airless? or HVLP?

BTW how far are you from the roloff farm? i'm trying every angle i can to get some time out that way

[low'n slow]

Is the cat supervising or guarding against mice?

[Frizzle Fry]

Originally Posted by Jvsapp

dang FF well keeping the helper happy does help.

paint sprayer.... hmmmm as in airless? or HVLP?

BTW how far are you from the roloff farm? i'm trying every angle i can to get some time out that way

You are getting warmer; 6.2 miles.

The sprayer is one of those electric wagner deals. Good for small jobs.

Originally Posted by low'n slow

Is the cat supervising or guarding against mice?

That cat likely is hunting for cables to chew on...

[JRBECK64]

Frizzle,
Ready for paint yet? So when is your first race? That is one cool looking car and I love the rims on it.

JRBECK64

[1ATony]

Originally Posted by 67ChevyRedneck

I don't envy you. I did my kitchen about 6 months ago. Technically, I'm still not done, I have to paint the base and crown trim. Hey, it came "primed" so it "looks" done

I'm in the same boat with the upstairs on my house.We did a gable to gable shed dormer on the back 3 yrs ago,and still have moldings to do.

I told my wife we have a 30 yr mortgage so I have 30yrs to finish it...

[Jvsapp]

Originally Posted by Frizzle Fry

You are getting warmer; 6.2 miles.

well im back and, idk if my whole 10 hrs of driving to only spend 3 hrs in st helen was worth it or not... got veto'ed by the wife said i'd spend WAY too much time at your place. guess she knows me too well.

anyways might be setting something next year or something so i'll drop you a line if i'm flying into portland. she wants to go to that beach where they actually filmed twilight at. we hit la push and it was nice, but not the movie beach. that was another 10+hrs of driving to only spend 2 hrs in forks....

anyway hope you getting some headway on your house. the weather was nice when i was there so you should be just about done huh?

but i will let her know you are only 6.2 miles from the roloff farm and she can go pick pumpkins while i check out a minx and tubby