Daverods 52

[daverod]

thanks bud. Shoild be getting back on it soon. Just try to make some cash for the winter.100 degrees and I'm worried about winter.

[daverod]

It's alive. Swapped eninges and heads put the engine back in filled it up with fluids. Today I fired it up. Still need to adjust my valves made some cut out valve covers to make it alittle less messy. Only let it run for a min. still need to hook up my pedal,

[Alan's Classic]

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[C@rnut001]

Awesome, glad to hear you are making some great progress. Good luck!

[daverod]

My 570 carb turned out to be a 870 carb. Guess the ebay seller could'nt see very good. I can relate. Anyways had to get another off ebay. This time it was a 570. Also got a Fulton visor. And ya I need a new lens for my crappy phone.

[rollinrooster]

Gettn it done!!!! Love the visor, were did you find it at? Also as far as being a big dummy... try putting a two piece rear main oil pan on a one piece rear main motor tried this friday night and broke the corner off of an aluminum pan.

[daverod]

I got it off ebay. Really good condition made out of Al. Just need to paint it a darker color and make it look beat. Gettin the coffie ready for the folks?

[daverod]

Ran my engine for about 20. Everything ok. I reved it between 2 and 3. Great for heating up the garage. I ran some hoses for the exhaust. Kinda worried about the temp.210. I was in a garage reving it up for 20. Guess I should finish up my brakes so I can go for a ride. Put a 650 ? truck avenger on it for now.Might be better for when I start messing with the bags. I see they make a low rider carb.

[padresag]

there are different factors that can be involved and 210 can be normal depending on the amount of lbs pressure from the cap
a 50/50 mix of e/glycol with raise the boiling point 18 degrees F . for every lb pressure on the cap the boiling point will raise 3 degrees. it could also be the guage, or i should say the way that it readsin a newer vehicle at that temp it would more than likely read normal.
if you have a 15lb cap and 50/50 a/f your system wouldn't boil until it reached 212 + 18
+ 45 = 275 degrees F so 210 would be in the normal operating range
ron
do not confuse the normal boiiling point of water at 212 with what you have under pressure.

[99 to Life]

padresag, great point. I run a 16lb cap, I feel most aluminum rads being offered come with a 16lb cap. When I ran about 25/75 mix I rarely ever went over 185 with a 185 stat, then I when I added more antifreeze (not sure of the mix now) I'm usually around 190 on average now. Hot days I have gone up to 210-220, which never happened the year before when I was running 25/75. I just wouldn't feel comfortable starting out at 200+. The cap pressure can be extremely high but if your running hot and need more pressure to stay away from overheating, I'd be worried. Again, I'd check temp at idle and make sure you are within cam suggested timing. I'd also check your balancer to make sure it is reading tdc and then double check timing. I'd eliminate every variable I could. I'm sure the engine is fine, but having the piece of mind on what its doing and how it responds to your changes is a great feeling.

[padresag]

Originally Posted by 99 to Life

padresag, great point. I run a 16lb cap, I feel most aluminum rads being offered come with a 16lb cap. When I ran about 25/75 mix I rarely ever went over 185 with a 185 stat, then I when I added more antifreeze (not sure of the mix now) I'm usually around 190 on average now. Hot days I have gone up to 210-220, which never happened the year before when I was running 25/75. I just wouldn't feel comfortable starting out at 200+. The cap pressure can be extremely high but if your running hot and need more pressure to stay away from overheating, I'd be worried. Again, I'd check temp at idle and make sure you are within cam suggested timing. I'd also check your balancer to make sure it is reading tdc and then double check timing. I'd eliminate every variable I could. I'm sure the engine is fine, but having the piece of mind on what its doing and how it responds to your changes is a great feeling.

back when these vehicles were built cooling capacities were larger, but as time progressed radiators became smaller with smaller front openings compared to earlier vehicles. this is why the pressure was increased to adjust the boiling point(operating temperatures) upwards
ron

[99 to Life]

good point. daverod. what is your cooling system? sorry if I missed that somewhere, that is why I asked if you were using fan or EFan and what is your rad?

[OrrieG]

Check the actual temp and compare it to the gauge reading. I got a little worried when my Chevelle started "over heating". Turned out the gauge or sender has decided to read 15 degrees high (mechanical VDO 12 years old), so now I just do a mental adjustment. I have a commercial restaurant grade dipper tester that I use (do not use your wifes candy thermometer).

[daverod]

Originally Posted by padresag

there are different factors that can be involved and 210 can be normal depending on the amount of lbs pressure from the cap
a 50/50 mix of e/glycol with raise the boiling point 18 degrees F . for every lb pressure on the cap the boiling point will raise 3 degrees. it could also be the guage, or i should say the way that it readsin a newer vehicle at that temp it would more than likely read normal.
if you have a 15lb cap and 50/50 a/f your system wouldn't boil until it reached 212 + 18
+ 45 = 275 degrees F so 210 would be in the normal operating range
ron
do not confuse the normal boiiling point of water at 212 with what you have under pressure.

I'll dump it all and put in 50/50. Snow day here so maybe maybe I'll get somthing done. Nothing done so far. Lots of thinkin

[daverod]

I have water in it. Running a electric fan.

[99 to Life]

yeah lots of factors here. thermostat, fan, rad, pump, the mix (Oh don't forget to just leave the rad cap off while it heats up so you can purge the system of air, you might be gettin an air pocket) again though, I'd check timing and make sure your not running too advanced. Also get her to idle and see what she is doing. the thermo in head could def be giving you a different reading. However, I run my efan temp sensor in the head and actual temp gauge from the intake, its about 185 on a cool day, hotter day about 190. I have a 185 stat and fan kicks on at 185.

[daverod]

My timing was messed up. I did'nt plug the disy whern I set it at first. Pluged it set it at 4 bdc. Mounted my fan right next to the rad. Also drilled some holes in the front of the rad. mount/hood latch area. Moved my temp sender to the heater plug right next to the thermo. All problems solved. Runs and sounds sweet. I should get my lens for my cam this week so I'll post so pics.Stilll working on brake lines/trans lines.

[Strodder]

[99 to Life]

great man, glad it all worked out. Get us some pics or a youtube link, better yet, lets see this boiii on the road. feels good solving a problem. nice to have some input from the board too. good luck.

[daverod]

Had my trans lines hooked up wrong. Swapped the lines top to top/ bottom to bottom da.. Now it does'nt make a funny noise every time I fire it up. Had to adjust my shifter linkage abit. Wasn't quite in park.. The front was on jack stands, almost a big time slam. Hooked up my tv cable and carb linkage. Unbolted my rear axle just need to set my diff,weld the perches and about a hundred other thangs.

[not2oldchevy]

Originally Posted by daverod

Had my trans lines hooked up wrong. Swapped the lines top to top/ bottom to bottom da.. Now it does'nt make a funny noise every time I fire it up. Had to adjust my shifter linkage abit. Wasn't quite in park.. The front was on jack stands, almost a big time slam. Hooked up my tv cable and carb linkage. Unbolted my rear axle just need to set my diff,weld the perches and about a hundred other thangs.

How did you have the trans lines wrong???? I didn't think it would matter.

[daverod]

I guess you want the coolest fluid going into your trans. Coolest is on the bottom. The other thing is the pump drains every time if is hooked up wrong. Not sure about that last part but thats what it sounded like.

[99 to Life]

interesting, I'll keep that in mind if I ever deal with an auto tranny. Hopefully I don't ever half to though. Wait I will on my 53' belair cause that will be for me and my gal. I wish I could get her to wanna drive a stick! Can't wait to see this beast on the road. Keep chippin away, its coming together.

[daverod]

I don't think I'll be driving my 64 much when I get this thing on the road. My parents think it's just for parades. They think I should paint it and get rid of the keg. Some people just don't get it.

[99 to Life]

daverod, toooo funny man. I feel you. "just for parades" "are you gonna paint it" too many people just don't get it.