48 Burb, bagged, 5.3, 20 year wait

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

Wow I must have been tired. The post I made in your tread was intended for my left for dead build thread. I will delete it (if I can) from yours and move to mine...Yes it bolts over the existing rails. When you consider the amount of kits on the market that they have sold I'm not worried. I might box the frame rails though. What you are also not seeing is the center cross member where the rear rails tie into. This is a very robust piece.

Thanks on the job comment. It is 6.5 miles from my house and I can drive the 48 to work quite often.

Marc

Please feel free to leave the pictures here Marc. Adds interest since I am not doing any building right now.
Nice short commute and driving the 48 often have to be great!

[youngrodder]

Originally Posted by Advanced Design

Please feel free to leave the pictures here Marc. Adds interest since I am not doing any building right now.
Nice short commute and driving the 48 often have to be great!

Yes, I'm using it as a marketing tool tomorrow for the company I work for when I drive it to go talk to this Jeep shop close to us. They make a bunch of Jeep parts. I'm going to air it down when I pull in and ask if they make a lift kit for it..ha ha ha

Marc

[Advanced Design]

First off guys, thank you for the prayers and positive thoughts for my wife. We were in Cleveland for nearly a month. Been home almost a month and she is gaining in strength every day. Three more months of treatments then monitor. We went from no hope to hopeful. He is answering our prayers!

Finally had a little time on the Burb today, playing with the air tank mounting.

Need your input guys. Chizzler and others have mounted the tank on the outside of the frame below the drivers door. The diameter is OK however the 30" length on this tank is too much due to running board brackets. Since it is really tight inside the frame and I don't want to mount inside I am kicking around these options.

1. Use two shorter tanks, one left and one right in this location.
2. Move the running board bracket behind the body mount and use this tank.

The rear running board bracket will be moved forward to clear the parallel four link.

Appreciate your thoughts and ideas!

[youngrodder]

Glad things are looking up on your wife's health. As for the tank location, just get it right because then I can follow your lead and save myself the headache.....

Marc

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by youngrodder

Glad things are looking up on your wife's health. As for the tank location, just get it right because then I can follow your lead and save myself the headache.....

Marc

Thanks Marc! Will do my best...

[99 to Life]

glad to hear about your wife. as for tank.... I'd find a location where you can access it the best you can. If that is your only option right there. I'd opt for two tanks. One 5 gallon tank (actually less than 5gallon even though they say 5g) would air you up maybe twice before comps kick on, just my guess. I'v been having to air up and down while driving here in PA cause the roads suck. So my 5 gal tank isn't the best or worst. My two 450 viaairs take about 5 min to fill from zero.

[oldman3]

Doug, glad Cindy is doing so well. Wish I could help, but no nothing about air systems...Jim

[65sub]

I'm glad things are looking better with your wife's medical situation. For the tank installation I'd opt for one tank, less complicated and you don't have to buy two more tanks. Does the tank in the picture tuck up higher? Otherwise it might be a low point.

[joedoh]

looks like the running board will be 3-4 inches lower than the tank in the position its in, so low point may be a relative term

I wouldnt move the running board bracket but I only say that because its just extra work. is there room inboard? where are you putting your gas tank? on my 65 the gas tank was inboard on the left and I could have put a couple air tanks on the right.

I also agree with 99tolife, that a smallish tank will have faster recovery but you will run out of air on about every lift. have you picked compressors? I would consider an engine driven compressor over electric, and with a small tank recovery time is seconds, not minutes. if you are planning on a 5-6 gal tank, get an EDC I guess is the point I am making.

prayers for your wife! I would be lost without mine, so heres to you

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by 99 to Life

glad to hear about your wife. as for tank.... I'd find a location where you can access it the best you can. If that is your only option right there. I'd opt for two tanks. One 5 gallon tank (actually less than 5gallon even though they say 5g) would air you up maybe twice before comps kick on, just my guess. I'v been having to air up and down while driving here in PA cause the roads suck. So my 5 gal tank isn't the best or worst. My two 450 viaairs take about 5 min to fill from zero.

Thanks 99! This location "seems" good though is pretty tight. And it is a no go once the middle running board bracket is installed. It will be difficult to connect the lines as well. I had one compressor and a 5 gallon tank on the truck...took to long too air up and raise.

Originally Posted by oldman3

Doug, glad Cindy is doing so well. Wish I could help, but no nothing about air systems...Jim

Thanks Jim! Prayers being answered! Jim, I know very little. I do know the next build will be on springs!

Originally Posted by 65sub

I'm glad things are looking better with your wife's medical situation. For the tank installation I'd opt for one tank, less complicated and you don't have to buy two more tanks. Does the tank in the picture tuck up higher? Otherwise it might be a low point.

Appreciate that 65sub! I prefer the one tank approach too. The tank will tuck up more if I change the mounting bracket and move the running board bracket. Thinking I will find another solution.

Originally Posted by joedoh

looks like the running board will be 3-4 inches lower than the tank in the position its in, so low point may be a relative term

I wouldnt move the running board bracket but I only say that because its just extra work. is there room inboard? where are you putting your gas tank? on my 65 the gas tank was inboard on the left and I could have put a couple air tanks on the right.

I also agree with 99tolife, that a smallish tank will have faster recovery but you will run out of air on about every lift. have you picked compressors? I would consider an engine driven compressor over electric, and with a small tank recovery time is seconds, not minutes. if you are planning on a 5-6 gal tank, get an EDC I guess is the point I am making.

prayers for your wife! I would be lost without mine, so heres to you

Thanks Joedoh...she is the center of my universe since 1978. Glad she figured I was a keeper!

Inboard of the frame will get really tight. There is less ...or seems less...height space than on the truck. There might be room if I noodle on it more. I have three electric compressors already. They sent me one too many and I've tried to send it back. Anyway, the 5 gallon tank should be filled OK with the two compressors.

The gas tank will be at the rear (I think) between the frame rails. I could mount the tank and compressors inboard on left side and possibly run exhaust pipes on the right side. Not wild about that option though.

Thanks for the input and ideas guys. Lot's of smart creative people here and I appreciate your help...I need all I can get!

[CHIZZLER]

My tank is only 20" long and fits well. It looks like you would have room to drop it down and back. The lowest point on the truck would be the bottom of the running boards brackets. Glad your wife is doing better.

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by CHIZZLER

My tank is only 20" long and fits well. It looks like you would have room to drop it down and back. The lowest point on the truck would be the bottom of the running boards brackets. Glad your wife is doing better.

Thanks Chizzler. Good point about the bottom of the running board brackets. Joedoh mentioned that too. I can go down a little more. This tank is 30 inches and a 20 inch tank would clear. Is yours a 3 gallon tank? Prayers for your wife too.

[CHIZZLER]

I believe the tank is also a 5 gallon. It barely fit between the frame and running boards. Thanks for your prayers. Wife is doing better.

[Iceburgh]

curious on your tank as well.
I now have mine up on jack stands and waiting for airride to come in, should be here this week.
I am way to low....I scuffed the bottom of the fender pretty good. Before I do any more damage I took off the drop spindles and will go with shockwaves.
Much better than doing bodywork and repaint.
So far I have had to repiant the fender and the hood

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by Iceburgh

curious on your tank as well.
I now have mine up on jack stands and waiting for airride to come in, should be here this week.
I am way to low....I scuffed the bottom of the fender pretty good. Before I do any more damage I took off the drop spindles and will go with shockwaves.
Much better than doing bodywork and repaint.
So far I have had to repiant the fender and the hood

Wow, fender and hood repaint...what happened to the hood?

I will follow Chizzler's lead and size out a 5 gallon tank 20 inches long. Will try it where I show the 30 inch tank. Hopefully the diameter won't be too large and will clear the running board.

Iceburgh, please share what direction you go too. Thanks!

[99 to Life]

Id have to go back and see how your suspension is laid out again to give any input on a relocation. Even thought that tank isn't the "lowest" point, its still highly vulnerable to getting hit, and if its tight squeeze, wouldn't be fun replacing or getting to it. But... sometimes you have no options. Before I put mine where it is, I was seriously considering putting it behind my seat. bottom line, a 5 gallon tank really isn't 5 gallon, and two comps is a MUST, which also adds to the chaos of placement and more wiring.

also the way the tank is clocked, there wouldn't be a port to have a drain valve. I think that it would be best to clock in a position for that. Although, I just opened up my drain valve and nothing came out at all, and its an aluminum tank, been putting air to it since winter.

[lower50's]

I know my frame is different but I have 2- 4 gal. They are a spun aluminum tank you can get them 18", 24" mine and 28" long.

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by 99 to Life

Id have to go back and see how your suspension is laid out again to give any input on a relocation. Even thought that tank isn't the "lowest" point, its still highly vulnerable to getting hit, and if its tight squeeze, wouldn't be fun replacing or getting to it. But... sometimes you have no options. Before I put mine where it is, I was seriously considering putting it behind my seat. bottom line, a 5 gallon tank really isn't 5 gallon, and two comps is a MUST, which also adds to the chaos of placement and more wiring.

also the way the tank is clocked, there wouldn't be a port to have a drain valve. I think that it would be best to clock in a position for that. Although, I just opened up my drain valve and nothing came out at all, and its an aluminum tank, been putting air to it since winter.

Thanks 99. Good point about the clocking for a drain port. Will be sure to do that. This is one I will have to play around with I think. Really appreciate the input.

[Advanced Design]

Appreciate the ideas lower50's. This is one I may need to pursue. Looks like a nice set up you put together!

Originally Posted by lower50's

I know my frame is different but I have 2- 4 gal. They are a spun aluminum tank you can get them 18", 24" mine and 28" long.
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[CHIZZLER]

This is about the same tank I used. Look at the dimensions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gallon-8-P...ff7135&vxp=mtr

[99 to Life]

buzz is in my back yard practically. what is your max length you can go?
I like this tank, esp for you, you can kick it side ways and have a drain port still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Zenith-5...3D111394262390

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by CHIZZLER

This is about the same tank I used. Look at the dimensions.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/5-Gallon-8-P...ff7135&vxp=mtr

Thanks Chizzler!


5 Gallon 8 Port Air Tank

Looking for more air? The five gallon tank offers the perfect amount of air storage to run train horns, pneumatic tools and other on-board air applications. Equipped with 8 half inch ports, this tank allows for many high-flow applications that could prove difficult with the smaller sized ports found on smaller tanks. It is also rated to twice its working pressure of 150 PSI, while meeting all DOT standards, and stands on legs for easy mounting options.

Specifications:

Volume: 5 Gallons (18.93 Liters)
1/2" Ports: 7
3/4" Port: 1 On Face
Rated Max Pressure: 300 PSI
Working Pressure: 150 PSI
Burst Pressure: 800 PSI
Length: 20.5 in (520.7 mm)
Diameter: 9.5 in (241.3 mm)
Height: 11.5 in (292.1 mm)
Weight: 20 lbs (9.07 Kg)

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by 99 to Life

buzz is in my back yard practically. what is your max length you can go?
I like this tank, esp for you, you can kick it side ways and have a drain port still
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Air-Zenith-5...3D111394262390

Than you 99! I might have 25 inches. Will install the running board bracket and make sure.

5-gallon aircraft-grade aluminum 300psi burst proof air tank. 8 ports: 4x 1/2", 4x 1/4".

[mr incredible]

just found this... i will be looking forward to your progress

[Advanced Design]

Originally Posted by mr incredible

just found this... i will be looking forward to your progress

Welcome aboard mr incredible. With the yard work slowing down, I am planning some shop time Saturday to take another run at mounting the air tank and compressors.

Thanks again for the input and ideas guys. Really appreciate all the help.