A real Unicorn, Finally 71' Cheyenne Super SWB BB

[lolife99]

Hey Rene,... with all your knowledge of west coast 67-72 trucks,... what kind of money would this truck bring?

Is the market still good?
Is this a $15K truck in your opinion?

[CircusWagonJim]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Hey Rene,... with all your knowledge of west coast 67-72 trucks,... what kind of money would this truck bring?

Is the market still good?
Is this a $15K truck in your opinion?

The market is down on EVERYTHING!!!

[C/10 King]

Originally Posted by lolife99

Hey Rene,... with all your knowledge of west coast 67-72 trucks,... what kind of money would this truck bring?

Is the market still good?
Is this a $15K truck in your opinion?

Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

[Critter]

Originally Posted by Duncan and son

...and it is not the original radiator...

Originally Posted by ls1nova71

...the van tilt shift indicator doesn't do anything to make it look original either.

Can somebody explain these two statements to me? What is seen in the pics that indicates the radiator and shift indicator are not factory/original??? The column looks like it has been pushed back closer to the dash but can't that be done with original columns also?

[too much stuff]

Originally Posted by C/10 King

Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Just curious what your thoughts are on being original? (since you have seen it in person) I also noticed alot of things not quite correct, and no spid would be a big one to document everything. Don't get me wrong here, i would love to own it, and i am not picking it apart, just makes me wonder about originality of it.

[lolife99]

Originally Posted by C/10 King

Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Thanks for the reply.
I'm just trying to "dial-in" my price estimating.
I guess there is no way to recreate the SPID data from the VIN number?
(no GM source for this info?)

I really want to own a loaded swb, big block, Cheyenne Super,... sometime before I die.

[Classic Bowties]

Originally Posted by C/10 King

Keith, the market is always good for a BB, if that was mine I would guess $17K on the low side and $ 21K after I added buckets and a AM/FM. If the SPID was intact I would be firm on my high price.

Add a true truck tilt to that list also, it looks to be a very deserving candidate. This is one beautiful truck, just not as original and untouched as pictured now. Mel

[C/10 King]

Originally Posted by too much stuff

Just curious what your thoughts are on being original? (since you have seen it in person) I also noticed alot of things not quite correct, and no spid would be a big one to document everything. Don't get me wrong here, i would love to own it, and i am not picking it apart, just makes me wonder about originality of it.

Remember this was the first time I ever got close to it, in twenty years of just viewing the elderly woman, I guess in my mind from the first time I laid eyes on it, I had to assume it's "The unrestored little old lady's truck" I think we all would have figured the same, so today after getting my chance to take a few photos, I really didn't study it hard, but to be honest I totally thought it was the real deal, maybe partly because I was very excited, but I was disappointed when I discovered the SPID was missing, scratching my head wondering why she would remove it, But if in the next twenty years I ever get the chance again, I'm going to study it with a fine tooth comb.

[Classic Bowties]

Originally Posted by C/10 King

Remember this was the first time I ever got close to it, in twenty years of just viewing the elderly woman, I guess in my mind from the first time I laid eyes on it, I had to assume it's "The unrestored little old lady's truck" I think we all would have figured the same, so today after getting my chance to take a few photos, I really didn't study it hard, but to be honest I totally thought it was the real deal, maybe partly because I was very excited, but I was disappointed when I discovered the SPID was missing, scratching my head wondering why she would remove it, But if in the next twenty years I ever get the chance again, I'm going to study it with a fine tooth comb.

Would have really left you scratching your head had she came across member chipflyer/outintheshop.com and had one of his spids installed. A customer in Modesto recently told me half of the shorties he comes across down his way are riding on chopped down frames, you just never know these days. Mel

[leddzepp]

Rene- I am surprised nobody has asked...did you get a pic of the VIN plate? That will tell a lot of the story. See if the original rosette (flower) rivets are still there. Also check the number and see if it begins CE1 or CE2. If CE2, it was 3/4 ton LWB, if CE1 it was 1/2 ton, either LWB or SWB...since it is a 71, if the VIN begins CE1, I would tend to believe it is a true SWB. Of course, you would need to crawl underneath and look at the frame to see if it has been cut and if the frame and cab numbers match.

That being said, as it sits this truck would still IMHO bring 15K with no problem. Add some upgrades as you stated, and 17-20K would sell to the right buyer.

[ls1nova71]

Originally Posted by Critter

Can somebody explain these two statements to me? What is seen in the pics that indicates the radiator and shift indicator are not factory/original??? The column looks like it has been pushed back closer to the dash but can't that be done with original columns also?

In the second pic of the engine compartment you can see that the column has the long shaft indicating that it's a van tilt. The shaft is 2 5/8" longer than a truck tilt. And the shift indicator can be seen in the pic that shows the tach. Trucks used a smaller font on it as opposed th the vans larger lettering.
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[special-K]

I can't believe in all these posts no one has asked,"Is she single???"

It's a sure fire nice truck. I love the color and it would only be better in solid color with a saddle interior. I did notice that's not an original dash bezel right off the bat.

[DANTIP]

When the SPID is missing, my BS alarm goes off! I can hear it now!

[Critter]

Originally Posted by ls1nova71

In the second pic of the engine compartment you can see that the column has the long shaft indicating that it's a van tilt. The shaft is 2 5/8" longer than a truck tilt. And the shift indicator can be seen in the pic that shows the tach. Trucks used a smaller font on it as opposed th the vans larger lettering.
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Thanks, ok I see the longer shaft sticking out of the column now.

[DANTIP]

Originally Posted by Critter

Can somebody explain these two statements to me? What is seen in the pics that indicates the radiator and shift indicator are not factory/original??? The column looks like it has been pushed back closer to the dash but can't that be done with original columns also?

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The original 4-core radiators are easily identified from just a top view. Paul is correct, the radiator is an after-market. Not a big deal, but since we were all looking at it as a possible Real-Deal truck, noticing the radiator was a very good catch.

[Dieselwrencher]

This is still a very nice truck. It may not be all original, but I wouldn't care.

[Zoomin]

Originally Posted by C/10 King

Remember this was the first time I ever got close to it, in twenty years of just viewing the elderly woman, I guess in my mind from the first time I laid eyes on it, I had to assume it's "The unrestored little old lady's truck" I think we all would have figured the same, so today after getting my chance to take a few photos, I really didn't study it hard, but to be honest I totally thought it was the real deal, maybe partly because I was very excited, but I was disappointed when I discovered the SPID was missing, scratching my head wondering why she would remove it, But if in the next twenty years I ever get the chance again, I'm going to study it with a fine tooth comb.

The one thing that would help get past the missing SPID would be a Protect O Plate. There might be hope yet, but I have my doubts.

[RenoKeene]

Wow, you guys are good! Glad I got the protecto plate and SPID for "Charlie's Truck".
What would Grandma's truck be worth if it was real?

[DANTIP]

We all think this is a very nice truck! I for one appreciate the people that help everyone distinguish features of authentic trucks. There is an incredible amount of knowledge out there that I hope people continue to share. Hopefully people don't get offended by their comments.

[Zoomin]

Originally Posted by RenoKeene

Wow, you guys are good! Glad I got the protecto plate and SPID for "Charlie's Truck".
What would Grandma's truck be worth if it was real?

See post 53.

I'd like to hear Rene's opinion of the value if it was fake. Seems like "tribute" cars on the B-J auction fetch nice money anyway.

[sameyrasmea72]

Originally Posted by ls1nova71

Parchment, dark green, and blue were the only colors to have houndstooth. You could get buckets in those colors too, but no houndstooth on them.

What about saddle????? I don't recall ever seeing an original saddle houdstooth seat but I never thought about it.

[sameyrasmea72]

Originally Posted by leddzepp

The brake booster looks like a 3/4 ton unit too.

I think you are right!!! I ahve never seen one like that on a 1/2 ton.

[mcbassin]

Super nice truck, I'm amazed how much you guys know about these trucks. Seems like there wasn't very many trucks made the way this one is equipped. 40 years is a long time to keep one original too.

[OldSkool71]

I am suspect of anything that loaded being original...especially with the SPID missing...red flag...It's still kewl...and that is what is kewl about these trucks and other vehicles for that matter...build the one you want...it may not be original...but its yours...and you can have the one you want with out BJ prices...

[67-72trucks]

nice! That old lady drives in style