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12-15-2013, 10:43 AM | #51 |
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I have looked at several trucks this year for parts to keep or for resale. More often than not Ive walked off not even making an offer. When Im standing there looking at an $800. rust bucket and they very proudly tell me that they saw one of these on barrett-jackson sell for $25000. I just want to be really critical about their eye sight and tell them what I think of their barrett jackson value. Instead, I usually just turn around and leave telling them its not what Im looking for. Too many people spend too much time watching auto reality shows!! If Ive heard it once Ive heard it a hundred times-- "all it needs is just " little fixin" and itll be worth a fortune".
Once I just couldnt stand it and as I was leaving I told the owner----"you do the fixen then and see what the hell its worth afterward". We undoubtedly live in a time when we have more research resources available to us than any other time in history----but a lot of people seem to have lost all touch with Reality than ever before. I may be giving away my age, but I remember a time when an old junk car was Just that--a junk car, and every one knew it. Now---it just needs "a little fixen"!!
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> "a little fixin' and it'll be worth a fortune"
To me a little fixin' means points, plugs, rotor and condenser. Actual restorations take $50K if you're doing all the work yourself and $250K if you're paying someone else to do it.
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I think you're a little/lot high on your costs
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I think maybe he ment $5,000.00 and $25,000.00 unless of course your taking it to the fast and loud guys or Danny from Las Vegas
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If it's costing you $10k+ to paint your own car, or $7k to build your own stock engine you're doing something very wrong, ESPECIALLY since we're only talking restoration here.
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Wow! What have I started? There sure is a lot of differences in everybody's opinions! LOL.
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Boy Special K sure makes a lot of good points, I hope I can express what I mean with what I'm about to say, first off if theirs a market for it there stamping out new cabs and bodies for other models so I'm looking to see that soon for a 67 - 72 but I've always admired a T or an A model, be it a stock example or a rod of some kind and I have a friend who keeps trying to swap me one for my Chevy ll, tried to offer a build last weekend as his wife just loves my car and wants it to take the whole family cruzing in.
As tempted as I am I just can't do it, I remember these old mussel cars from a period in my life and the lives of people who mean something to me, I don't remember the old A models. They have a great place in history but I don't share it, a lesser vehicle is worth more to me, and I'm the one spending the money, with that said IMO as the people who were there pass on theirs no emotional attachment connected to the era people will pay less and less as a pop thing, theirs always going to be someone like say Jay Leno who can afford anything and has the taste for that and will keep things going. I think these old trucks are worth about as much as there going to be right now or will soon top out. I'm in my mid 50s my first new truck was a 78 and there popular, my dad had one of these along with uncles and friends from school, in 20 or 30 years I'll probably be gone and no one will love this truck like I do it will be a curiosity, the popular trucks will have been built in the 90s and early 2000s then. Look at todays prices I really don't think these old beauties are gold mines but they are popular, sooner or later someone will restamp the cabs and then who will wont to pay top dollar for a rusty cab. Last edited by R.L.; 12-16-2013 at 04:21 PM. Reason: poor grammer. |
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They guy's who want a REAL ONE ! Anything repop is junk !
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Do the math. A typical Barrett-Jackson restoration "frame off" takes about 1000 hours. My last full restoration was 2000 hours. A Pebble Beach restoration can be 5000 hours. Multiply 2000 hours by your favorite $75 per hour shop rate, and you're at $150K plus parts and supplies. Of course I'm talking about dropping it off and picking it up 18 months later. Since these trucks top out at about $35K value, I opted do it everything but paint myself. So read it and weep: below you'll see close to $25K in parts and engine/trans/rear, plus $30K paint, and you're over $55K doing most of the work yourself. I don't want a rat-rod, but to each their own. Item Category Qty Price Total 1970 GMC Sierra Grande Vehicle 1 6,700.00 6,700.00 400 Emblems Trim 1 44.95 44.95 Headlights Electronics 4 34.95 139.80 Headlight Harness Electronics 1 29.95 29.95 Cab Light Kit Electronics 1 49.95 49.95 Qudrajet Carburetor Engine 1 299.95 299.95 Coil Bracket Engine 1 13.49 13.49 Kick Panel Speakers (Pair) Electronics 1 161.99 161.99 Vacuum Advance Tube Engine 1 17.99 17.99 Temperature Gauge Interior 1 37.79 37.79 Glove Box Woodgrain Interior 1 13.49 13.49 Dash Bezel Woodgrain Interior 1 14.39 14.39 Tach and Vacuum Gauge Set Interior 1 320.39 320.39 Coil Engine 1 22.49 22.49 AM/FM Radio 240W Electronics 1 349.99 349.99 6-1393 Bedless Body Kit Chassis 1 217.00 217.00 6-7756P Fleetside Wood Bed Kit Chassis 1 299.90 299.90 Front Body Mount Kit Chassis 1 25.25 25.25 First Batch of Brackets Body 1 125.00 125.00 AC Shut off Valve Flapper HVAC 1 29.95 29.95 AC Condenser HVAC 1 189.95 189.95 AC Accumulator/Druer HVAC 1 39.95 39.95 Evaporator Case Drain Tube HVAC 1 8.95 8.95 Radiator 4-Core HVAC 1 289.95 289.95 Radiator Drain Tap HVAC 1 7.90 7.90 U-Nut for Shroud HVAC 2 7.90 15.80 Screw for Shroud HVAC 4 0.45 1.80 Clip for Shroud HVAC 2 0.95 1.90 Lower Rad Hose HVAC 1 12.95 12.95 Heater Valve HVAC 1 29.95 29.95 Heater Hose HVAC 2 4.95 9.90 Heater Core HVAC 1 59.95 59.95 Blower Motor for Heater HVAC 1 29.95 29.95 AC O-Ring Kit HVAC 1 24.95 24.95 Thermostat HVAC 1 3.95 3.95 Engine Block Heater HVAC 1 29.95 29.95 GMC 2500 Emblem Set Trim 1 79.95 79.95 GMC Hood Letter Emblems Trim 1 64.95 64.95 Hood Bumpers Front Weatherstripping 2 3.95 7.90 Hood Bumpers Side Weatherstripping 4 3.95 15.80 Junction Block Gasket Electronics 2 1.95 3.90 Front Fender Seals Weatherstripping 1 12.95 12.95 Hood to Cowl Seal Weatherstripping 1 8.95 8.95 Engine Rebuild Engine 1 5,000.00 5,000.00 Ashtray Bezel Plater Interior 1 44.95 44.95 Console bumper Interior 2 0.95 1.90 Console Hardware Interior 1 19.95 19.95 Door Panel Set Interior 1 199.95 199.95 Door Handle Eustacheon Interior 4 1.95 7.80 Door Handle - Inside Interior 2 4.95 9.90 Window Handle - Inside Interior 2 4.95 9.90 Armrest Set Interior 1 99.95 99.95 Fuel Gauge Interior 1 29.95 29.95 Dash Bezel Woodgrain Interior 1 49.95 49.95 Steering Wheel Interior 1 249.95 249.95 Horn Button Interior 1 29.95 29.95 Headliner Trim Interior 1 129.95 129.95 Interior Color Bond Paint Interior 4 12.95 51.80 Colorbond Clear Coat Interior 1 12.95 12.95 Colorbond Adhesion Promoter Interior 2 12.95 25.90 Pedal Set Interior 1 18.95 18.95 Accel Pedal Trim Interior 1 11.95 11.95 Oil Pan Engine 1 59.95 59.95 Glove Box Insert Interior 1 10.50 10.50 Glove Box Screws Interior 1 2.99 2.99 Engine Harness 396 HEI Electronics 1 85.99 85.99 Headlight Harness Electronics 1 154.99 154.99 Kickdown Harness Electronics 1 29.99 29.99 Wire wrap tape Electronics 1 9.99 9.99 Harness Rails Electronics 1 18.99 18.99 Ground Strap Kit Electronics 1 29.99 29.99 Antenna Electronics 1 49.99 49.99 Rearview Mirror Interior 1 36.99 36.99 Distributor w/ Igniter III Engine 1 251.15 251.15 NOS Ignition Key Bezel Interior 1 14.95 14.95 NOS Tail Light Bezels Body 1 76.00 76.00 BUSHING SET-SWAY BAR 1-1/16 OD Suspension 1 39.95 39.95 UPPER A-ARM BUMPER 2 REQ Suspension 2 4.95 9.90 LOWER CONTROL ARM BUMPER 2 REQ Suspension 2 5.95 11.90 BALL JOINT-ASSY-UPPER 2 REQ Suspension 2 19.95 39.90 BALL JOINT-ASSY-LOWER 2 REQ Suspension 2 19.95 39.90 SEAL-UPPER A ARM SHAFT 4 REQ Suspension 4 3.95 15.80 SEAL-LOWER A ARM SHAFT 4 REQ Suspension 4 3.95 15.80 FRONT WHEEL BEARNG-OUTER 2REQ Suspension 2 29.95 59.90 FRONT WHEEL BEARING-INR/OTR Suspension 2 6.95 13.90 FRONT SEAL-INNER 2 REQ Suspension 2 3.95 7.90 U-JOINT-1/2T A/R Suspension 3 9.95 29.85 FRONT WHEEL STUD 16 REQ Suspension 16 2.95 47.20 PARKING BRAKE RELEASE HANDLE Suspension 1 3.95 3.95 INTERMEDIATE BRAKE CABLE Suspension 1 14.95 14.95 REAR BRAKE CABLE 2 REQ Suspension 2 19.95 39.90 BRAKE CABLE RETAINER 4 REQ Suspension 4 1.25 5.00 BRAKE CABLE SEAL SET 1 REQ Suspension 1 2.95 2.95 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19.95 FIREWALL PAD FASTENER-PLASTIC Interior 10 0.95 9.50 FIREWALL PAD FASTENER-RUBBER Interior 4 1.95 7.80 BOOT-BRAKE PEDAL PUSHROD Interior 1 6.95 6.95 EMBLEM-IGNITION INDICATOR 1REQ Interior 1 2.95 2.95 EMBLEM-"GMC CUSTOM" 1 REQ Interior 1 29.95 29.95 GLOVE BOX LAMP ASSEMBLY Interior 1 14.95 14.95 GLOVE BOX BULB-CLEAR Interior 1 0.95 0.95 NUT A/R Interior 4 0.95 3.80 SCREW 4 REQ Interior 4 0.35 1.40 GLOVE BOX BUMPER A/R Interior 2 0.95 1.90 DASHPAD-REPRO-BLUE Interior 1 79.95 79.95 KICK PANEL CARPET SET-BLUE Interior 1 49.95 49.95 EVA SOUND DEADENER KIT-4PC Interior 1 49.95 49.95 3 PT RETRACTABLE SEAT BELT KIT Interior 2 89.95 179.90 A/C BALL SEAL SET Interior 1 2.95 2.95 AC VENT BALL-CHROME 2 REQ Interior 2 7.95 15.90 A/C CENTER VENT-CHROME Interior 1 18.95 18.95 A/C CENTER VENT GASKET Interior 1 2.95 2.95 TEMP CONTROL ASSEMBLY-W/AC Interior 1 169.95 169.95 BED STRIP KIT-POL SS 1 REQ Body 1 209.95 209.95 BED BOLT KIT-POLISHED SS Body 1 119.95 119.95 LED lamps Electronics 4 35.00 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I agree Grumpy, who want's a repop! And I still find it hard to accept that it takes $30,000 to get a great paint job. I believe an average person could be taught to shoot paint that would look like $30000! and their tuition would be far less then $30K.
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Disagreements and differences of opinion are to be expected...but when it turns into a pissing match as this has become, the thread gets closed.
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