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Dinos63 · 06-22-2012, 05:27 PM

very nice, makes me want to build one with this set up

gringoloco · 06-26-2012, 11:46 PM

I thought I had seen you mention it somewhere before, but never anything come of it: any chance of you guys using a coil spring like pictured below? (that's a TCI setup for reference)

Basically, instead of coilovers, an option to run factory style coil springs with the mild version Dropmember. It could use the 'bag style shock mounting bracketry for design simplicity, instead of the through-the-coil setup like the TCI pictured. Your lower control arms (as well as CPP and others) are already coil-capable, so it would just require building a new upper 'coil hat' mount, like the pic (*I think*).

Sure, you lose the ride height adjust-ability, but that's only a half inch or so while remaining 'in the sweet spot' of the suspension's intended geometry. Conversely, this could save customers hundreds in coilover costs and may have a certain appeal to those that don't want to stray TOO far from factory components/layout, but upgrade to R&P, with better geometry and ground clearance, under the stock inner fenders, all while using C10 truck parts.

Is this a crazy idea? Seems too simple to me...

Wasted Income · 06-27-2012, 09:07 AM

I like it, GringoLoco.

PBFAB.COM · 06-27-2012, 11:41 AM

It's definitely doable.... hasn't been much interest in it though. A better option in my opinion is to run an air bag with a schrader valve. You can run it static (set height without the expense of an air management system) and still have the ability to adjust or fine tune. Not to mention the ride quality.

gringoloco · 06-27-2012, 01:58 PM

Agreed on the benefits of 'bags, as I run a schrader setup on the rear of my truck. The problems with it, in my experience, are the inherent fluctuations in pressure, and therefore height, due to temperature, leaks, etc.

While this is acceptable to some degree on the rear, these changes in the front suspension will lead to alignment, handling, and tire wear issues. Without some way to positively gauge your set ride height, such as a pressure or height sensor, there's no way of knowing. I envision breaking out the tape measure or yard stick at every stop to ensure your truck is still aligned, or worse yet, driving down the highway slowly leaking air and ruining an expensive 20" tire before you realize your 'bags are leaking...

Coil springs are simple, cheap, reliable and capable. For these reasons, I still run factory coils up front-- guess I just wanna have my cake (improved geometry and ground clearance) and eat it too (affordably and reliably).
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PBFAB.COM · 06-27-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by gringoloco

Agreed on the benefits of 'bags, as I run a schrader setup on the rear of my truck. The problems with it, in my experience, are the inherent fluctuations in pressure, and therefore height, due to temperature, leaks, etc.

While this is acceptable to some degree on the rear, these changes in the front suspension will lead to alignment, handling, and tire wear issues. Without some way to positively gauge your set ride height, such as a pressure or height sensor, there's no way of knowing. I envision breaking out the tape measure or yard stick at every stop to ensure your truck is still aligned, or worse yet, driving down the highway slowly leaking air and ruining an expensive 20" tire before you realize your 'bags are leaking...

Coil springs are simple, cheap, reliable and capable. For these reasons, I still run factory coils up front-- guess I just wanna have my cake (improved geometry and ground clearance) and eat it too (affordably and reliably).
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Definietley good points to consider, and we can always find pros and cons to every set-up. Just have to weigh all the options and make the decision that's best for you.

I would raise the eyebrow a little to the pressure change argument due to temperature and barometric pressure. It is fact that the pressure will change due to this outside influences.... but I would make the argument that the changes would be negligeable at best.

The pressure changes in reference to a leak is much more practical, and a simple set of gauges would keep those of us suffering from ADD and OCD from breaking out the yardstick at every intersection.

We have made several "custom" or modified Dropmembers over the years, and are always open to discussing possibilities.

Nate

gringoloco · 06-27-2012, 04:45 PM

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...We have made several "custom" or modified Dropmembers over the years, and are always open to discussing possibilities.

...

W3rd. I'll be in contact

PBFAB.COM · 07-04-2012, 12:32 PM

Few more pics of the four-link.

**Hart_Rod** · 07-04-2012, 04:32 PM

Whats the widest tire that will be able to be run with that setup?

gringoloco · 07-04-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Whats the widest tire that will be able to be run with that setup?

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Originally Posted by Nate Porter on porterbuiltstreetrods.com

12" wide wheel will fit with sufficient clearance.
http://www.porterbuiltfabrication.co...ull=1#post3832

For the green '68, or the gold '68? Loving this setup- hope to get mine soon-ish...
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SCOTI · 07-04-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Hart_Rod

Whats the widest tire that will be able to be run with that setup?

Previous versions allowed a 10" wide wheel because of the bag mounting location. This looks like it places the 4-bars in approx the same location. The difference would be the location of the CO's vs bags so a 12" wheel might fit. Curious as well....

duallyjams · 07-04-2012, 08:50 PM

What size rim do you need to run for the srcub line on the rear.

PBFAB.COM · 07-09-2012, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTI

Previous versions allowed a 10" wide wheel because of the bag mounting location. This looks like it places the 4-bars in approx the same location. The difference would be the location of the CO's vs bags so a 12" wheel might fit. Curious as well....

Measurements confirm 12" wide wheel is the max you can run with the four-link and coil-overs outboard. 10" wide wheel will fit with plenty of room.

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What size rim do you need to run for the srcub line on the rear.

On this set-up, the lowest point of the coil-over bracket hangs down 9" below the center of the axle tube. That would equate to an 18" wide wheel.

PBFAB.COM · 07-09-2012, 08:33 PM

Some more pics:

PBFAB.COM · 07-09-2012, 08:34 PM

More:

Wasted Income · 07-09-2012, 10:40 PM

How long until that center x-brace is available?

**67cheby** · 07-09-2012, 10:48 PM

That is beautiful !
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**N2TRUX** · 07-09-2012, 10:55 PM

Very pretty!

PBFAB.COM · 07-09-2012, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Wasted Income

How long until that center x-brace is available?

Probably gonna be a few months until it would be a production piece. We can always sell the pre-bent tubing and the plates for those who are ambitious.

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Originally Posted by 67cheby

That is beautiful !
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Thanks Mike!

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Very pretty!

Thanks Ken! I think it came out alright.

Dinos63 · 07-11-2012, 01:21 PM

sweet!!

texastrendz · 07-11-2012, 02:36 PM

10...10....10....10 muthafin 10...10....10

kvn1011 · 07-11-2012, 05:22 PM

That looks awesome nate!!
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65Pickup · 07-23-2012, 01:20 AM

Anybody got pics of completed trucks??

gringoloco · 07-23-2012, 09:30 AM

Only one I've seen is the Hills Blazer
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65Pickup · 07-23-2012, 01:31 PM

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Only one I've seen is the Hills Blazer
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Is that the AutoCross Tahoe, or Jason Hill Blazer?? Any build threads? Thanks

06-22-2012, 05:27 PM	#101
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06-26-2012, 11:46 PM	#102
gringoloco A guy with a truck Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany, for now Posts: 5,921	Re: Another Dropmember version???? :) I thought I had seen you mention it somewhere before, but never anything come of it: any chance of you guys using a coil spring like pictured below? (that's a TCI setup for reference) Basically, instead of coilovers, an option to run factory style coil springs with the mild version Dropmember. It could use the 'bag style shock mounting bracketry for design simplicity, instead of the through-the-coil setup like the TCI pictured. Your lower control arms (as well as CPP and others) are already coil-capable, so it would just require building a new upper 'coil hat' mount, like the pic (I think). Sure, you lose the ride height adjust-ability, but that's only a half inch or so while remaining 'in the sweet spot' of the suspension's intended geometry. Conversely, this could save customers hundreds in coilover costs and may have a certain appeal to those that don't want to stray TOO far from factory components/layout, but upgrade to R&P, with better geometry and ground clearance, under the stock inner fenders, all while using C10 truck parts. Is this a crazy idea? Seems too simple to me... Attached Images __________________ -Chris Instagram _elgringoloco_ '70 Short-Wide How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10 ‘70 Blazer ConversionHow To: Ruin a Perfectly Good 4wd '72 Highlander How To: Ruin a Perfectly Good K/5 (SOLD) '72 Blazer 2WD How to: Ruin a perfectly good Blazer (SOLD) '05 Yukon Daily Driven (not so stock) Yukon (SOLD) ‘07 Yukon Denali (daily) Members met list: SCOTI, darkhorse970, 67cheby, 67cheby'sGirl, klmore, porterbuilt, n2billet, Fastrucken, classicchev, Col Clank, GSFMECH, HuggerCST, Spray-Bomb, BACKYARD88, 5150, fine69, fatbass, smbrouss70, 65StreetCruiser, GAc10boy

06-27-2012, 09:07 AM	#103
Wasted Income Boosted Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mackinaw, IL Posts: 2,200	Re: Another Dropmember version???? :) I like it, GringoLoco. __________________ 1972 2wd K/5 Blazer Turbocharged 370 LSx - 941 rwhp / 1093 rwtq 1969 Chevy K-10 L33 5.3 / 4L80E / NP241 / 4" lift 1964 Buick Skylark Twin TURBO 383 LS pro-touring project 2014 VW Passat TDI - Daily Driver Turbo diesel 2015 Sierra Denali HD Duramax Turbo diesel 2023 Ford Explorer ST - Twin Turbskis 2023 Ford F150 RCSB - Whipple Supercharged 2017 Polaris RZR Turbo 2014 Nor-Tech Center Console - Twin Supercharged Outboards *TURBO ALL THE THINGS!!*

06-27-2012, 11:41 AM	#104
PBFAB.COM Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Mesa,Az Posts: 3,981	Re: Another Dropmember version???? :) It's definitely doable.... hasn't been much interest in it though. A better option in my opinion is to run an air bag with a schrader valve. You can run it static (set height without the expense of an air management system) and still have the ability to adjust or fine tune. Not to mention the ride quality. __________________ www.PorterbuiltFabrication.com Phone: 480-297-2621 E-mail: sales@pbfab.com Find us on FaceBook under Porterbuilt Fabrication Specializing in Chassis and Suspension Components for your Classic Chevrolet Truck. We offer components from the following manufacturers: Porterbuilt Accuair Ridetech (Air Ride Technologies) Air Lift Wilwood Intro Unisteer ECE Gotta Show Air Lift Borgeson CPP Supporting this forum since 2003!

06-27-2012, 01:58 PM	#105
gringoloco A guy with a truck Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany, for now Posts: 5,921	Re: Another Dropmember version???? :) Agreed on the benefits of 'bags, as I run a schrader setup on the rear of my truck. The problems with it, in my experience, are the inherent fluctuations in pressure, and therefore height, due to temperature, leaks, etc. While this is acceptable to some degree on the rear, these changes in the front suspension will lead to alignment, handling, and tire wear issues. Without some way to positively gauge your set ride height, such as a pressure or height sensor, there's no way of knowing. I envision breaking out the tape measure or yard stick at every stop to ensure your truck is still aligned, or worse yet, driving down the highway slowly leaking air and ruining an expensive 20" tire before you realize your 'bags are leaking... Coil springs are simple, cheap, reliable and capable. For these reasons, I still run factory coils up front-- guess I just wanna have my cake (improved geometry and ground clearance) and eat it too (affordably and reliably). Posted via Mobile Device Posted via Mobile Device __________________ -Chris Instagram _elgringoloco_ '70 Short-Wide How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10 ‘70 Blazer ConversionHow To: Ruin a Perfectly Good 4wd '72 Highlander How To: Ruin a Perfectly Good K/5 (SOLD) '72 Blazer 2WD How to: Ruin a perfectly good Blazer (SOLD) '05 Yukon Daily Driven (not so stock) Yukon (SOLD) ‘07 Yukon Denali (daily) Members met list: SCOTI, darkhorse970, 67cheby, 67cheby'sGirl, klmore, porterbuilt, n2billet, Fastrucken, classicchev, Col Clank, GSFMECH, HuggerCST, Spray-Bomb, BACKYARD88, 5150, fine69, fatbass, smbrouss70, 65StreetCruiser, GAc10boy

07-04-2012, 12:32 PM	#108
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07-09-2012, 08:33 PM	#114
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gringoloco A guy with a truck Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Germany, for now Posts: 5,921	Re: Another Dropmember version???? :) Only one I've seen is the Hills Blazer Posted via Mobile Device __________________ -Chris Instagram _elgringoloco_ '70 Short-Wide How to: Ruin a perfectly good C10 ‘70 Blazer ConversionHow To: Ruin a Perfectly Good 4wd '72 Highlander How To: Ruin a Perfectly Good K/5 (SOLD) '72 Blazer 2WD How to: Ruin a perfectly good Blazer (SOLD) '05 Yukon Daily Driven (not so stock) Yukon (SOLD) ‘07 Yukon Denali (daily) Members met list: SCOTI, darkhorse970, 67cheby, 67cheby'sGirl, klmore, porterbuilt, n2billet, Fastrucken, classicchev, Col Clank, GSFMECH, HuggerCST, Spray-Bomb, BACKYARD88, 5150, fine69, fatbass, smbrouss70, 65StreetCruiser, GAc10boy

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