Cross country…or Bust? Long trip for C10..

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by catch2otwo

Cool thread! I live in San Francisco. If you and your wife decide to do this trip, consider driving a few hours out here to the coast and go south from here.

If you do come this way, you and your wife are more then welcome to stay here for as long as you'd like free of charge. I have a garage with tools and a little know how if you end up needing a little fix up time. pm me if you want and I can shoot you my contact info.

We come across this type of thread alot in the motorcycling community. Theres no better way to get familiar with your machine then to drive it. We've met so many people from all across the country taking trips like this on old bikes, I only hope to get the opportunity some day. PM me! We'd love to have ya

thanks very much. appreciate the generosity! we are just working on our it itin this week.

[Average Joe]

700r4 starts at 1300 at Summit. This will work well with 4.11's or 3.73's. A 3.07 ratio usually works better (behind a small block anyway) with a non overdrive tranny like a TH350 or TH400. If you decide to go either of these routes perhaps a Summit sales rep at the Sparks location could steer you toward a reputable shop for the install.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/b...s?autoview=SKU

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by Average Joe

700r4 starts at 1300 at Summit. This will work well with 4.11's or 3.73's. A 3.07 ratio usually works better (behind a small block anyway) with a non overdrive tranny like a TH350 or TH400. If you decide to go either of these routes perhaps a Summit sales rep at the Sparks location could steer you toward a reputable shop for the install.
http://www.summitracing.com/search/b...s?autoview=SKU

i appreciate the info, not really knowing how all the gears would run, thats good info. i still dont know what tranny it has, but pretty sure its not a 700r4. i have contacted summit in reno. they asked what rear end was in it…i believe its a 12 bolt

soooo, without getting into a tranny swap for 2k the 307 might be the way to go. would those be luggy at all in that truck? i am assuming 3.73 would not make a huge difference from 4.11. anything in between 3.73 and 3.07 that might be ideal. gas isn't going to break the bank, its more the high revving for long periods. i wouldn't mind keeping it at or under 2500 at say 70mph. i will also likely put a bigger wheel on it (32"?) to fill out the wheel wells and raise it a touch. i believe it was dropped with 2.5 drop spindles etc.

[WIDESIDE72]

Originally Posted by freezmcnally

i appreciate the info, not really knowing how all the gears would run, thats good info. i still dont know what tranny it has, but pretty sure its not a 700r4. i have contacted summit in reno. they asked what rear end was in it…i believe its a 12 bolt

soooo, without getting into a tranny swap for 2k the 307 might be the way to go. would those be luggy at all in that truck? i am assuming 3.73 would not make a huge difference from 4.11. anything in between 3.73 and 3.07 that might be ideal. gas isn't going to break the bank, its more the high revving for long periods. i wouldn't mind keeping it at or under 2500 at say 70mph. i will also likely put a bigger wheel on it (32"?) to fill out the wheel wells and raise it a touch. i believe it was dropped with 2.5 drop spindles etc.

I had a 71 gmc with a 250 6 cylinder, originally had 3.73's, swapped the rear to one with 3.07's. I originally had the same concern, since it was a 3ott that I would have to ride the cultch to get going. Turns out that it was not a problem at all..

[imjeff]

Maybe run it as is, figure out what's good, what's bad, and decide after you get to know your new truck. I have 3:73s and don't mind them on the highway, but I'm not on the highway much. You may find after your trip that one component needs work. It would suck to put a new rear gear in it only to find out the tranny is shot after you get home. Just have fun and enjoy the trip!

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by imjeff

Maybe run it as is, figure out what's good, what's bad, and decide after you get to know your new truck. I have 3:73s and don't mind them on the highway, but I'm not on the highway much. You may find after your trip that one component needs work. It would suck to put a new rear gear in it only to find out the tranny is shot after you get home. Just have fun and enjoy the trip!

you're right. too much thinking. guess I'm just excited to see it.

[gale]

Originally Posted by freezmcnally

would you make the 1800 mile drive in a 68 c10?

By all means drive it. I drove my '54 about that far and swept a foot of snow off before I started it up.

I did that trip without the benefit of even one gauge working. Needless to say I stopped often to check oil and overheating but I had no problem. I kept the speed around 45-50 but I had no speedometer. I used my iPhone for time and the mile markers along the way to check how fast (or slow) I was going.

Fuel system is the weak link. Either take a few tools or buy some cheap ones along the way. Before you leave Reno I would check the fuel filter at the carburetor. If you don't have a new one just toss the old one before if stops you cold.

Then the flex line between the tank behind the seat and the steel line under the truck will collapse due to ethanol. If the truck is in use now that may have been replaced. Take a look under the truck and you'll see the flex line and the joint to the steel line. If the flex line makes a nice lazy bend it will be OK. But chances are it will have a collapsed spot at the midpoint of the bend.

A NAPA store will probably have a new flex line or you can use a small tubing cutter, a piece of hose, and a couple of clamps.

Another winter and a '67 truck but similar trip about 1200 miles. One tire had no tread whatsoever but I figured I could address that when it became an issue. About 800 miles into that trip a vibration got worse so I slowed a little more. After about 40 miles something left the truck and the vibration smoothed out. It was dark and cold so I kept going until a decent motel popped up.

The next morning I crawled under the truck an the center carrier bearing on the driveshaft was gone. I don't mean it was shot; it was gone so that's what I heard leave the the truck the night before. I assessed the situation and the smooth solid part of the shaft was spinning on the crossmember so there was no chance of shaft or crossmember wearing thin. The driveshaft was trapped by the U-shaped bearing housing so I drove it on home without incident.

Every time I needed to start from a dead stop the driveshaft hopped around for a bit but then settled in for an easy ride at 45 mph.

My wife considers these trips "Gale's adventures" so I go alone.

BTW I choose not to carry tools because you will usually need what you didn't bring. I just buy cheap stuff along the way and toss them when I get back to my garage.

[gale]

I posted this before reading all the preceding posts.

I would not spend a lot of stuff such as gearing changes, etc. until you get your truck home and have a chance to look it over carefully. What little you save in gasoline will be forgotten a week later.

Spending a lot, carrying a bunch of tools, etc. is something like paying interest on trouble that may not come.

I've done numerous long trips in old trucks or on old motorcycles and I have my laptop, cell phone, and debit card. Armed with those three I can get towed from anywhere if I need to.

[Hubscrub]

I won't tell you not to do it, i love road trips. Me and the wife drove out to LA last summer from TN. I highly recommend taking route 66, get on in Arizona and to OKC depends on what part of Arkansas you headed, (you need to get a guide book) the EZ66 Guide by Jerry McClanahan was the one we used for the whole Chicago to Los Angles trip. So much life off the interstates. Be proud of your wife i have one like that to she has a 67 project and not high maintenance and loves off the interstates trips. Enjoy the trip!

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by gale

I posted this before reading all the preceding posts.

I would not spend a lot of stuff such as gearing changes, etc. until you get your truck home and have a chance to look it over carefully. What little you save in gasoline will be forgotten a week later.

Spending a lot, carrying a bunch of tools, etc. is something like paying interest on trouble that may not come.

I've done numerous long trips in old trucks or on old motorcycles and I have my laptop, cell phone, and debit card. Armed with those three I can get towed from anywhere if I need to.

good points. I might revise the check list a little. I was thinking same. although I think gas cans, new gas filter water and duck tape are a must.
ordering aaa tomorrow.

[gale]

I forgot about the gas can. That was my first purchase when I saw I didn't have a gas gauge on the '54 truck.

I ran the truck dry and put my 2 gallons in the tank to get to a station. The plan was to figure out how many miles or hours I could go between stops.

When the flexible gas line started collapsing that changed because there wasn't enough pressure from weight of gasoline or suction from fuel pump to get past the crimped spot. My first temporary fix was to wrap the collapsed place with electrical tape to hold it to a round shape. I also kept the tank full to increase the weight of gasoline pushing through the hose. That got me by until Monday morning and a NAPA store popped up.

When I went to Indiana for the '67 C20 I took a Garmin GPS with me with the idea I could use it to locate the nearest NAPA, etc. It was in a backpack and I broke the display before I could use it.

[Already Gone]

April 14th is fast approaching and I'm looking forward to you blogging your trip. Are you gonna post on this thread or start a new one?

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by gale

By all means drive it. I drove my '54 about that far and swept a foot of snow off before I started it up.

I did that trip without the benefit of even one gauge working. Needless to say I stopped often to check oil and overheating but I had no problem. I kept the speed around 45-50 but I had no speedometer. I used my iPhone for time and the mile markers along the way to check how fast (or slow) I was going.

Fuel system is the weak link. Either take a few tools or buy some cheap ones along the way. Before you leave Reno I would check the fuel filter at the carburetor. If you don't have a new one just toss the old one before if stops you cold.

Then the flex line between the tank behind the seat and the steel line under the truck will collapse due to ethanol. If the truck is in use now that may have been replaced. Take a look under the truck and you'll see the flex line and the joint to the steel line. If the flex line makes a nice lazy bend it will be OK. But chances are it will have a collapsed spot at the midpoint of the bend.

A NAPA store will probably have a new flex line or you can use a small tubing cutter, a piece of hose, and a couple of clamps.

Another winter and a '67 truck but similar trip about 1200 miles. One tire had no tread whatsoever but I figured I could address that when it became an issue. About 800 miles into that trip a vibration got worse so I slowed a little more. After about 40 miles something left the truck and the vibration smoothed out. It was dark and cold so I kept going until a decent motel popped up.

The next morning I crawled under the truck an the center carrier bearing on the driveshaft was gone. I don't mean it was shot; it was gone so that's what I heard leave the the truck the night before. I assessed the situation and the smooth solid part of the shaft was spinning on the crossmember so there was no chance of shaft or crossmember wearing thin. The driveshaft was trapped by the U-shaped bearing housing so I drove it on home without incident.

Every time I needed to start from a dead stop the driveshaft hopped around for a bit but then settled in for an easy ride at 45 mph.

My wife considers these trips "Gale's adventures" so I go alone.

BTW I choose not to carry tools because you will usually need what you didn't bring. I just buy cheap stuff along the way and toss them when I get back to my garage.

really great info on fuel line etc. thx!

[Ol Blue K20]

I'm waiting for this blog as well. I just wish that Sacramento area was on your route.

[jc06vmax]

I'm in for the ride! Wear it out! I'll be following along.

[freezmcnally]

thanks will do my best to blog on the way guys!

[davischevy]

New thread title

Cross country…or Bust? "THE" trip.

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by davischevy

New thread title

Cross country…or Bust? "THE" trip.

i like it. done. look for it monday

[67 cst swb]

Cross country…or Bust? THE trip.

I like it!

[Already Gone]

I think new thread but put beginning notice in this one so no one misses your blog.

[veedubshafer]

This reminds me of something...A friend of mine once did something pretty crazy...swapped a VR6 engine into a 1990 VW Golf. Put an 8 valve engine in the trunk and drove from NJ to Colorado to deliver the car to its new owner. He then took the 8 valve motor and installed it into a '78 Rabbit and drove it back to NJ.

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by veedubshafer

This reminds me of something...A friend of mine once did something pretty crazy...swapped a VR6 engine into a 1990 VW Golf. Put an 8 valve engine in the trunk and drove from NJ to Colorado to deliver the car to its new owner. He then took the 8 valve motor and installed it into a '78 Rabbit and drove it back to NJ.

great concept. but wonder if it was cost effective vs time?

[71swb4x4]

Originally Posted by freezmcnally

great concept. but wonder if it was cost effective vs time?

Do you think restoring these trucks is cost effective vs time? That guys VW habit ranks right up there with these old trucks.

[freezmcnally]

Originally Posted by 71swb4x4

Do you think restoring these trucks is cost effective vs time? That guys VW habit ranks right up there with these old trucks.

I was certainly not knocking his vdubs. (Audi guy myself. virtually same thing) just seemed like a lot of motor swaps. but awfully creative. and no. these trucks are DEFINATELY not cost effective when u look at how much we tinker.