Tractor thread?

[Killer Bee]

thanks for sharing - and naturally I had to read more

Elvis Presley's John Deere 4010
The inside story of restoring Stella.



Elvis Presley’s original John Deere tractor on display in Graceland

[62c30]

Originally Posted by ckfarm

If you notice the front edge of the hood still has some dents in it.I read a story about the students restoring the tractor where not allowed to straiten them because Elvis was the one who put them in there!

I remember hearing that and for some reason I thought that it was listed on the sign. Obviously I didn't read it before I posted it. On my 61 Apache 10 that was my grandpa's there is a bullet hole from the inside out but it just left a "nipple" and didn't go through the outside door skin. After visiting Graceland I thought about leaving it after hearing the story.

[special-K]

Originally Posted by 62c30

And here's my junk. John Deere 140 h3, Farmall 230 that was my grandad's, and a John Deere 3038e I bought new in 2012

Looks like you're pretty well set. That's a nice IH, a great size

Meanwhile, back at the tractor show. I'm throwing a road grader and some crawlers if that's ok

[biketopia]

Those of you that like to travel/RV/boondock etc, the keystone tractor museum in Petersburg has overnight parking and I believe they also have hookups. There is also a little cafe that is supposed to have some pretty decent food.

[special-K]

The sandwich I had for lunch was good. I thought I had a whole slew of pictures from there, but don't see them now. That settles it. I have to go back now. I haven't been back since they expanded

More from the gas & steam show

[special-K]

I worked this weekend on a friend's '72 John Deere 2520 Row Crop w/loader. It needs a hydraulic pump. I was doing some carpentry work for him and he was moving a TGI beam suspended from the bucket. Sitting there idling I thought it was rattling a good bit. This guy isn't much on maintenance so I wasn't surprised. Then "TINK" and I notice something drop under the tractor. It was the coupler to the pump had broken. time for some maintenance-free repairs . It turns out the pump had been leaking, which he knew about. So, this weekend I dismantled it down to the pump. The parts should be here by Wed. I'll upload the pictures of the tractor and edit them in

[DeadheadNM]

Here’s a real clean IH that sold at a local auction yesterday for $7500. Several others sold but I was at the other ring. Did see this JD lawn tractor and this old Kubota.

[Getter-Done]

What about this Young guy from Ky.

This Kentucky truck promposal goes viral online -...

[72 tigger]

Originally Posted by Getter-Done

What about this Young guy from Ky.

This Kentucky truck promposal goes viral online - YouTube

That’s pretty cool

[straight6chevyguy]

why did I not know about this thread until just now? lol. Subbed.

[DeadheadNM]

Shop vac trick to avoid a lot of hydraulic fluid loss when changing filters on some Kubotas (at time 11:21) - I'm due for a filter change so might try this

Use a Shop Vac to Prevent Loosing Hydraulic Oil...

[Killer Bee]

Originally Posted by DeadheadNM

Shop vac trick to avoid a lot of hydraulic fluid loss when changing filters on some Kubotas (at time 11:21) - I'm due for a filter change so might try this

Use a Shop Vac to Prevent Loosing Hydraulic Oil on a filter change! Kubota M owners must watch! - YouTube

gee whiz, don't tell everyone our secrets

actually works quite well on a lot of machines, I was shown this technique back in the mid 90's

couple of pro tips;

select an old vac you wouldn't miss if it were ruined for anything else. needs to be big enough to hold the whole compartment just in case, and healthy enough to carry on through the whole process and not poop out mid way

clean vac of ALL dirt inside and rig for wet operation. small amounts of fluid will be picked up and carried into the canister. make clean-up easy on yourself

don't position suction hose too close to fluid level. vac will pick up small droplets to full on stream of fluid without sufficient air gap. you may have to create small air bleed holes in the connection, too great of a seal will simply evactuate the compartment into the vac canister

utilize a helper to hold suction hose or fasten it really, really well. use your imagination to picture the scene when hose flops off while you're laying underneath with filter removed

have sufficient size drain pan positioned directly under filter or fitting being removed along with splash shield (cardboard is good for one-time use) and a few shop rags

have filter, fitting, etc. prepped for the swap including any gaskets, seals and tools needed

the gurgling is normal. don't be alarmed, it's supposed to sound like the end of a good milkshake

good luck!

[Killer Bee]

these also work great for cooling system work like changing b/o fittings, filters, even block heaters

good ones have an air regulator or ball valve to adjust vacuum

https://www.amazon.com/BILITOOLS-Rad...dp/B0CBV63NS9/

[DeadheadNM]

Thanks for the pro tips!

Turns out, somewhere the rubber plug for my hydraulic/trans fluid vanished. Last night I went to inspect things and when I lifted my seat I was staring into a bare a$$ hole. So, I'll be exchanging all the fluid this time around and will try the shop vac trick at time of the next filter change.

[Rickysnickers]

Reviving this thread. I'm potentially looking for a tractor, used of course. What are things to look at when purchasing a used tractor? I've never owned one. Are they a maintenance nightmare, or fairly easy to maintain? I would prefer one in the 30-40hp range. There's a Kioti listed locally that's supposedly almost brand new, 80 something hours on it. Are these a decent brand? Thanks for any input.

[biketopia]

Originally Posted by Rickysnickers

Reviving this thread. I'm potentially looking for a tractor, used of course. What are things to look at when purchasing a used tractor? I've never owned one. Are they a maintenance nightmare, or fairly easy to maintain? I would prefer one in the 30-40hp range. There's a Kioti listed locally that's supposedly almost brand new, 80 something hours on it. Are these a decent brand? Thanks for any input.

Kioti are pretty much knock off Kubotas, but a pretty stout machines. IF there is a dealer close to you I probably wouldn't hesitate to much. I almost bought a Kioti brand new in 2021 but I was going to have to wait 6-12 weeks. Drove 2 hours away and got my Kubota with 102hrs for significantly less. What tasks are you hoping to realistically accomplish with your tractor, what's your budget, and how handy are you? I own a Kubota B2650, 26HP tractor with a loader and plethora of 3pt attachments. I'd suggest perusing the below link. I'm a member there and the buying advice section is super helpful. You need to be honest with yourself on the terrain around your place and end goals for use.

https://www.orangetractortalks.com/f...ice-pricing.9/

[farmall]

Originally Posted by Rickysnickers

Reviving this thread. I'm potentially looking for a tractor, used of course. What are things to look at when purchasing a used tractor? I've never owned one. Are they a maintenance nightmare, or fairly easy to maintain? I would prefer one in the 30-40hp range. There's a Kioti listed locally that's supposedly almost brand new, 80 something hours on it. Are these a decent brand? Thanks for any input.

Kioti is a decent tractor. Just as good as the other big names.
Google Kioti Bobcat Doosan Daedong.
The loaders and backhoes are installed in the USA. Not made by the tractor company.
I would not buy any tractor with tier 4 emissions.
I like my antiques. Just bought a Ford Golden Jubilee.

11 years at a Kioti, Mahindra, Branson, Gehl dealership.

[Rickysnickers]

Thanks fellas. My plans are to do some clearing. We live in Boise area and own 10 acres. I would like to keep all the cheat grass and sage brush down to a minimum as to avoid as much potential wild fire hazard as possible. After mowing as much as possible, there are some pretty steep slopes on the property, use an implement to level out everything and get rid of as many badger holes as I can. In addition, using it for clearing snow from the driveway, about 100 yards long.

Realistic budget is south of $25K

[biketopia]

$25k is decent budget and with land work you'll want weight to accomplish those tasks. I would be looking for something comparable to the L or LX series from Kubota. The L 2501 is a very popular model, punches above it's class, but you are limited to only 19hp at the PTO and 25 engine. My B2650 is the predecessor to that machine and has been fantastic for my needs. You may find a B2650 or a B3350 in good shape. I was prepared to spend about the same during Covid for a tractor when we bought our 5 acres. I needed one and couldn't wait months for one to maybe come in. Found the B2650 with front end loader and SSQA bucket for $14k, 102 hours, 2 years old, still under warranty. The "same" tractor was over 25k new from Kubota, John Deere was closer to 30k, Kioti was like 26k

The non ECU controlled ones are relatively trouble free and just normal maintenance, grease them, and run good fuel they'll give you years of good service. What model is the Kioti you found? A backhoe can be handy on one of these machines, but it will add a significant cost ($5-7k) to a new or used machine. A rented mini ex can be much more capable for a better price depending on your needs. Also, a subframe mounted backhoe will need to come off and be stored anytime you want to hook up a 3pt accessory like a box blade, rear snow blower, rear blade, wood chipper, etc.

Typically with the well known manufactures, they don't depreciate like a used car, they'll hold a lot of value if decently taken care of. I would stay away from a geared tractor for ease of use. You won't want to try and find a front end loader after the purchase unless you find a deal of all deals and the loader is available new. I would not be scared of tier 4 emissions. You may want to look for a cabbed model for the snow removal part, but if you have woods you'll be driving around in, the cab can get cumbersome and broken windows get expensive. You'll want a machine with a mid mount PTO if you want to easily run a front mounted snow blower. Then you can get into all the fun of a 3rd function up front, rear remotes, etc. Highly recommend a skid steer quick attach style front bucket versus pin on, or john Deere's proprietary quick attach. I swap from bucket, to forks, to grapple all the time. Loader forks are an amazing accessory to have with a tractor.

Lastly compare specs of what you find and look for real world recommendations if possible. On Orange Tractor Talks it gets brought up that some manufactures inflate their specs like loader lift capacity to seem significantly better than a comparable size Kubota. A front pivot axle tractor can flip over on flat ground if you operate it wrong enough. I got mine a very tippy the other day unloading a 350 from my brothers truck because I was being lazy and didn't want to hook up the box blade for some counter weight or grab a chain to lift evenly with my forks, had to stop and get a chain.

https://www.tractordata.com/farm-tra...ota-b2650.html

[Rickysnickers]

Great info! I didn't type this in earlier. Yes, I would like one with a mid PTO. There's a New Holland at the dragstrip where I work. There a broom attachment on the front and a blower on the rear, so I've already figured out that a rear and mid PTO are the way to go.

I wouldn't purchase one without a front end loader. That's almost a must have, in my opinion, for what little I know about tractors. The other option, for me, that is a must is 4x4.

Here's a link to the Kioti I was looking at.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...d-c690a3040d06

[Killer Bee]

Kubota.

[biketopia]

Originally Posted by Rickysnickers

Great info! I didn't type this in earlier. Yes, I would like one with a mid PTO. There's a New Holland at the dragstrip where I work. There a broom attachment on the front and a blower on the rear, so I've already figured out that a rear and mid PTO are the way to go.

I wouldn't purchase one without a front end loader. That's almost a must have, in my opinion, for what little I know about tractors. The other option, for me, that is a must is 4x4.

Here's a link to the Kioti I was looking at.

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace...d-c690a3040d06

The Kioti seems like a decent deal, good weight, size, HP, Hydraulic top link, etc. The 3 range that Kitoi and Kubota offer is nice. On the Deere I test drove I found low just too slow most of the time and high too fast for anything but transporting. Do you have a dealer "local" to you? Might want to do some research on the dealer and a little digging on that particular machine. Kubota is pretty much impossible to go wrong with, but the Kioti's are a good machine, and for the money, depending on use, and parts availability, I would not be scared to run one at all.

[62c30]

I bought a John Deere 3038e new back in 2012 and have almost 900 hours on it. My dad bought one too and has just over 1,000 hours now. Both have been perfect and trouble free. 38 hp is not really needed on a compact tractor other than if you are mowing really thick grass or other pto implements. When I bought mine I looked at all the different brands and went with the Deere cause I just needed a basic tractor and the price was the best. Dealers are another factor on service and parts. The Kubota dealer here went to show me a L3800 and it was still in the crate. Said they would let me try it out after I bought it and they assembled it..... One thing at the time I really did like was the dual pedal setup which at the time was the only brand to have that. I think any of the brands would be fine as long as you take care of it and have a good dealer.

[biketopia]

Originally Posted by 62c30

I bought a John Deere 3038e new back in 2012 and have almost 900 hours on it. My dad bought one too and has just over 1,000 hours now. Both have been perfect and trouble free. 38 hp is not really needed on a compact tractor other than if you are mowing really thick grass or other pto implements. When I bought mine I looked at all the different brands and went with the Deere cause I just needed a basic tractor and the price was the best. Dealers are another factor on service and parts. The Kubota dealer here went to show me a L3800 and it was still in the crate. Said they would let me try it out after I bought it and they assembled it..... One thing at the time I really did like was the dual pedal setup which at the time was the only brand to have that. I think any of the brands would be fine as long as you take care of it and have a good dealer.

When I first started looking I really wanted to like the Deere's, and I guess I still do like them. My local construction dealer is a dream to work with and there's an AG dealer 2 miles from my house. But their prices were significantly more for a comparable sized Kubota, only high and low on the HST, and their proprietary quick attach FEL bucket steered me away.

I agree with the HP statement, really only needed if you're doing heavy PTO type work, and the sheer weight of the machine. But if your implements need the PTO HP, it's invaluable. My 26hp tractor will run out of traction and weight before power 100% of the time if I'm not trying to make it do something it shouldn't.

[MJN]

I'm not sure if there are any other Two-Cylinder Club members on here but if you are remotely interested in the John Deere collecting hobby I highly recommend joining. I've been a member for 32 years (wow, hard to believe its actually been that long) and always look forward to getting the magazine in the mail. They offer great services for the collector or really anyone looking for information and have expanded beyond Two-Cylinders to the New Generation tractors (3010/3020/4020's, etc) and now cover Sound-Gard generation of tractors and implements. And like this board, you meet fellow collectors at shows and end up making some great friends through the club. Consider joining or gifting a subscription https://two-cylinder.com/product/magazine-subscription/