Old School Hot Rod Truck (1964)

[1971 GMC SHORTY]

Great Build truck is out of Control. Thanks For Serviceing our Country

[Leroy-B1]

Maybe I missed it but what hood did you end up going with? I'm partial to the 60-61

[Arekusu]

Originally Posted by Leroy-B1

Maybe I missed it but what hood did you end up going with? I'm partial to the 60-61

I ended up going with the 1964 correct hood and grill. The 60-61 stuff was way cool man .. but it wasn't right for the truck. I decided to make the truck look more stock. Also, the 61 hood I had was FULL of bondo.. and I sold it for $150 to the paint store guy that had to have it even though I told him it had at least a gallon can of filler on it. lol

If I had a 60-63, I would have run the early hood on it.

Alex

[JWheeler331]

Thank you for your service to the country and thank you for sharing this build. Great progress.

[1963c-10]

Arekusu....what cam did you finally decide and install? The cam profile sounds great. I put a comp extreme energy XE268H in my big block build.

[Arekusu]

Originally Posted by 1963c-10

Arekusu....what cam did you finally decide and install? The cam profile sounds great. I put a comp extreme energy XE268H in my big block build.

Well I decided I might as well go with a custom cam. I had my machinist call Bullet Cams and they came up with a Hyd. Roller..

Duration at .050. 230 Intake 238 Exhaust
Gross lift is .601 for I & E
106 lobe separation.

I thought he said I wanted to run power brakes when they made it .. but that's not happening. Probably need to sell my CPP booster and research non power assisted brake setups. The new rear is going to have disks anyway.


Alex

[Captainfab]

All you need to do for your brakes is go with a hydroboost. I sell the brackets to make it happen.

[Arekusu]

Originally Posted by Captainfab

All you need to do for your brakes is go with a hydroboost. I sell the brackets to make it happen.

I like this idea.. but then I'd have to have some sort of power steering pump, and I have manual steering. It's less weight and I like the feel better. .. soo that's not happening unfortunately. Maybe on my Cadillac though

Alex

[Captainfab]

Yeah, after I said that I see that you have manual steering.

[ChevyFreak60]

Love the sound of that truck. Mine sounds similar but im running a small block.

[NEWFISHER]

Just installed mine and works well. 2nd build in sig.
Fronts from Borris at way2lo2 here in suspension section.
Rears from Ebay $399. Had. To fab the upper ebrake cable portions.
2lb residual valve in rear line and all new lines from inline tube.com

[willyp]

I forgot about this build... nice work Alex!!

[Arekusu]

I'm looking for some new front steel rims. I'm considering running a 16 or 17" front steel rim but I would like to know what it might look like with the 15" rim in the back. The rear overall height should be 30-31" tall. I'm just wondering if it'll look goofy with the 15's in the back. Any pics? My thought is I may be able to stuff a bigger rotor in the front if I run a bigger rim.

Thanks for watching the thread all and the support. I'm researching differentials and Moser so far is what I'm set on. The axle will cost as much as a POS Honda beater car. Do we have any venders that offer custom width axles at a forum rate maybe? I knew there was one a year or so ago, then they never got back with me.

Alex

[Arekusu]

Also, I found a great resource to determine what you'll need for a brake system on a 4x4 site of all places. Take a look.


http://www.pirate4x4.com/tech/billavista/Brakes/

Warning, requires some math skills.

Alex

[powerline84]

Hey Alex!,
I dig the truck man ...I cant beleive we both have had build threads on this forum and been on here and didnt know it . crazy lol. glad to see another Dumbass like me blowing money on restoring and not buying lol
Jimmy

[Arekusu]

Originally Posted by powerline84

Hey Alex!,
I dig the truck man ...I cant beleive we both have had build threads on this forum and been on here and didnt know it . crazy lol. glad to see another Dumbass like me blowing money on restoring and not buying lol
Jimmy

Dude I read your post and died. LOL. Thanks for the kind words. It's be cool to have both our trucks at a meet someday.

[Arekusu]

Small update with old pics.

We sanded a high spot down and ended up with a smiley face.



We finally finished painting the hood and clearing it. Problem was part of it was in the sun and the clear dried too fast. We were nervous, but we wet sanded the clear with 1000,1500, and 3000 grit then 3 staged buffed it. We only did the passenger half of the hood. The results are below. Super flat paint! Now I have to do the rest of the truck.

[Arekusu]

So this weekend I have to install the new Master cylinder and adjustable proportioning valve. Wilwood said I needed a 7/8 MC for a 6 to 1 pedal ratio (manual brakes). My cam in the 454 is to rowdy to run power brakes, it kills the motor when you press the brake pedal.

I ordered my Moser Fab 9 housing and a new rear trailing arm connection bar / rear lower coil-over mount from Porterbuilt. I hope it works with the FAB 9 housing.. I'll let you guys know.

I'm trying to figure out a clean way to mount the roll control / line lock with the adjustable proportioning valve.

I had a Brothers turn signal switch installed but it makes the tail lights act like hazards all the time.. so I ordered a new one. I hope this one works correctly.

The pitman arm was the stock one from '64, but the rest of the front steering linkage has been replaced, so I finally got around to replacing this.

I have to help my friend Keith shoot wires on his blazer too. His fuel pump wont prime the fuel system with the key power. It should be a fun weekend. Hopefully the FAB 9 comes in on Friday. That's all for now.

Alex

[Arekusu]

Started assembling the Moser FAB 9" yesterday.. one problem, they sent a 12 bolt brake kit.. so it was to small for the huge 9" bearings (the brake kit retains the axles and bearing in this setup). Should have new brakes by Tueday of next week. Maybe an axle under the truck again by next weekend. I'm waiting on my new porter built lower coil-over bar to come in as well still. Sadly it should have been here last week. I'll get some daylight pics of the axle this weekend.

Wet sanding the front end this weekend. Along with the brake install.

I think I installed my horn pieces upside down in the steering wheel. When I connect the wires up under the column the horn sounds continuously. Thoughts? Anyone have a pic of a correctly working horn ring setup or recent experience with this? I tore that thing apart 3 years ago and am not 100% sure how it goes back together.

Alex

[azdude1964]

Sweet looking paint work. As for the 9 inch and the brackets your gonna need to fit them as the axle tube is larger on the nine than the 12 bolt a flue and a die grinder is what I used.

[Arekusu]

Originally Posted by azdude1964

Sweet looking paint work. As for the 9 inch and the brackets your gonna need to fit them as the axle tube is larger on the nine than the 12 bolt a flue and a die grinder is what I used.

They sent the wrong parts so now I should have the new parts without having to modify anything. Thanks for the tip though!

Alex

[Arekusu]

Got some work done on the truck. The Moser axle in and damn .. it's sexy lol. Pics. I think I get to join the fatty tire club now too? Have 5/8" studs for security on the rims / axles. I had to drill out the steel rims to accept the studs.

Alex

[Arekusu]

How it sits under the truck. Last Pic is a cruddy one of the dyna pro wilwood brakes.

***Note *** My axle measurement wheel mounting surface to wheel mounting surface (without brakes figured in) with the 15x10 steelie wheel vintique rims was 56 inches wide. The 12 bolt pinion offset was .5" (Stock 1964 C10 axle width is around 62" wms to wms )

I had moser figure how wide the axle really needed to be with the disk brakes included. I saved about 500-700.00 on the axle by NOT buying the muscle pack kit. Shipping was going to be expensive. So I had them piece the kit together and send it in 3-5 boxes. I assembled the differential ( really easy actually, the chunk is pre assembled when you get it), moved the brake line mount for the flex lines (forgot to tell them there would be interference.. my bad) and then installed it. Wavetrack 3.75 gears, back brace, aluminum center case, 1350 yoke, 35 spline axles, semi gloss black powder coat.. It should never die.

Alex

[Arekusu]

Since I changed my plan under recommendation of a lot of people who have done this high power motor thing before... my trailing arm connection piece from Poterbuilt needed to be remade for a 9".. problem is they never made one for the Fab style of housing. I understood that and Fab work takes measurements (I had none). I got the new bar for the 9" but it was a bit wider left and right than predicted. Soo my buddy who is holding this thing for me in his garage on jack stands has been getting antsy since he pretty much lost his garage. My buddy Keith.. he's good shi*, he's country and an Engineer.. so the ingenuity is crazy. lol He came up with an idea to make the porterbuilt connection piece fit (as it was off a few inches due to the different style housing). We used a tree as a mandrel, and used his truck winch to bend the bar after it was bolted to chains. We tried getting an exhaust shop to put a bend in it but no one wanted to play. So we did this. I held the bar in place while he pulled the slack out of the cable and chain, then stepped back while the winch did some work. We ended up with a bar that is just about perfect and now my buddy gets his garage back as he can roll the truck in and out of it now.

One crappy part in switching late to the Fab 9 housing .. with the back brace.. my notches now aren't wide enough.. well hopefully the suspension will still get enough travel when I launch it.

Alex

[likaroc13]

Looks so clean underneath, & those are some fat meats for sure!