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Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 01:54 AM

WEll, I started the engine swap this evening, got the old one out and started looking into it, looking for a crack or something, but nothing seen with the naked eye, or at least nothing I've found as of yet.
Found out the old one IS in fact a 4 bolt main 350. I kinda figured as much being the numbers say it is an 86 350 from a K/20 or C/20.
I pulled the cam out, one lobe is gone, but the rest look OK. Isn't the lift/duration and brand normally stamped on the end of an aftermarket camshaft? I think I was told this at one point...there was nothing written on there.
Oh well.
Timing chain was loose and streached....another item i was told was edelbrock, but has no markings on it.

Oh well...on to the pics.
I'll be putting all these pics in the FAQ when I get the swap all done up and write it up.

I'll post more tomorow...I'm dead tired right now.
oh, and in case anyone is placing bets...no blood yet.

LonghornJeff · 10-24-2004, 01:59 AM

the new chrome covers look nice....the carb too....the fuel filter is bent though.......

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 02:04 AM

LOL!
(The items he listed were all his)

A.P. · 10-24-2004, 04:41 AM

Good pics, please give us more.

Tx Firefighter · 10-24-2004, 07:03 AM

Andy, aftermarket cams are hit or miss with what is stamped on them.

Typically, all you see is the grind number, like 270H or TQ20H, or whatever the manufacturer calls their grind. Then, you have to be familiar with cam grinder's part numbers to decipher which company made it (like the 270H above is a Comp grind)

Bonus question for the listeners........who made the grind called TQ20H like I qouted above?

I know the answer, but I want to see if anyone else remembers the company.

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 09:56 AM

That wouldn't be Erson would it?
Do I win anything?

gmc67swb · 10-24-2004, 10:18 AM

" Isn't the lift/duration and brand normally stamped on the end of an aftermarket camshaft? I think I was told this at one point...there was nothing written on there."

an old comp cam I had was stamped 280H on the front.

SCOTI · 10-24-2004, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

That wouldn't be Erson would it?
Do I win anything?

Give that man a doughnut . . ..... or @ least a doughnut hole.

**FRENCHBLUE72** · 10-24-2004, 10:38 AM

Man I have not heard erson since the super shop day's in cali... Look's like the 69 is getting a nice looking replacemet...Congrat's andy glad to see you workin on the truck's agian...

Tx Firefighter · 10-24-2004, 11:07 AM

Yep, Erson cam. Super Shops, now long gone, was the biggest purveyor of Erson stuff around.

I read that Super Shops stiffed Erson real big on money owed when they went bankrupt.

gmc67swb · 10-24-2004, 11:52 AM

Andy, that looks like the stuff that poured out of my 327 a month ago. I just went through the same thing you are now...Good luck. Now I just have to figure out what to do with the 327 and all the parts... :p

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 07:09 PM

I'm thinking of making an end table out of my dead 350. Along with a tailgate coffee table.

Yeah, I'm kinda sick like that.
The swap is goin OK, I'm being pickey as hell, so it is taking much longer than expected. It is bolted down in the truck now though...that's good.
More pics and stuff later....oh yeah, a pic some of you may get a kick out of.
I always say Vice Grips are the most important tool, they can be used as pliers, a wrench, a clam, and also, can be used to stop the bleeding.

BobS · 10-24-2004, 07:29 PM

Nice heavy-duty hemostat you've got there!

Rollie396 · 10-24-2004, 07:54 PM

a table like this?

These are cool.Don't know bout the wine bottles in the cylinders though...to upscale for me

**BOSS** · 10-24-2004, 08:12 PM

I didnt think it would take too long to see blood......lol.Good job on the faq Andy.

big blue 72 · 10-24-2004, 08:12 PM

keep it comin' Andy. shame i cant keep this scrolling like a screen saver....

Brainchild · 10-24-2004, 08:19 PM

Well I was gonna say It don't count unless you bleed,but you already figured that out:p

Swap is looking good so far.

Is that a new kind of oil you're draining out of there.I have drained that kind out several times

*chevytruckfan* · 10-24-2004, 08:44 PM

I have seen a lot of stuff come out of engines before but never mud. That is a new one.

cableguy0 · 10-24-2004, 08:59 PM

thats not mud its a milkshake the byproduct of coolant and oil mixing who says oil and water dont mix

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cableguy0

who says oil and water dont mix

That is always my example when some one says they don't mix. (In all reality, they are not mixed, but a solution which will...in time, seperate.)

cableguy0 · 10-24-2004, 09:15 PM

yea as true as that is they are together now so they are mixed

Longhorn Man · 10-24-2004, 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cableguy0

yea as true as that is they are together now so they are mixed

LOL!
Right you are!

whitesswj · 10-25-2004, 12:06 AM

what kind of oil dipstick tube is that and where can i get one? Mine is on the passenger side and i'd like to get one that long.
sswj

Budweis · 10-25-2004, 12:20 AM

on some aftermarket cams its stamped like stock not on ends but between the lobes. last one i bought had no stampings tho. gotta love that coffee table

1969 GMC · 10-25-2004, 01:01 AM

doesnt look like a 350 to me....

looks more like a hot chocolate maker!

10-24-2004, 01:54 AM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Engine swap underway... WEll, I started the engine swap this evening, got the old one out and started looking into it, looking for a crack or something, but nothing seen with the naked eye, or at least nothing I've found as of yet. Found out the old one IS in fact a 4 bolt main 350. I kinda figured as much being the numbers say it is an 86 350 from a K/20 or C/20. I pulled the cam out, one lobe is gone, but the rest look OK. Isn't the lift/duration and brand normally stamped on the end of an aftermarket camshaft? I think I was told this at one point...there was nothing written on there. Oh well. Timing chain was loose and streached....another item i was told was edelbrock, but has no markings on it. Oh well...on to the pics. I'll be putting all these pics in the FAQ when I get the swap all done up and write it up. I'll post more tomorow...I'm dead tired right now. oh, and in case anyone is placing bets...no blood yet. Attached Images

10-24-2004, 01:59 AM	#2
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10-24-2004, 07:03 AM	#5
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Andy, aftermarket cams are hit or miss with what is stamped on them. Typically, all you see is the grind number, like 270H or TQ20H, or whatever the manufacturer calls their grind. Then, you have to be familiar with cam grinder's part numbers to decipher which company made it (like the 270H above is a Comp grind) Bonus question for the listeners........who made the grind called TQ20H like I qouted above? I know the answer, but I want to see if anyone else remembers the company. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

10-24-2004, 10:18 AM	#7
gmc67swb Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mesquite, Tx Posts: 396	" Isn't the lift/duration and brand normally stamped on the end of an aftermarket camshaft? I think I was told this at one point...there was nothing written on there." an old comp cam I had was stamped 280H on the front. __________________ GM 330HP/350, Magnuson 122HH, Tremec TKO 5spd

10-24-2004, 10:38 AM	#9
FRENCHBLUE72 PROJECT 7DEUCE Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: GRANTS PASS OR Posts: 21,594	Man I have not heard erson since the super shop day's in cali... Look's like the 69 is getting a nice looking replacemet...Congrat's andy glad to see you workin on the truck's agian... __________________ GO BIG GREEN GO DUCKS MEMBER #6377 72 k-5 daily driver 6'' lift 35'' 350-350-205 slowly getting rust free. Project "7DEUCE" check out my build http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=267665 Tim Powell..R.I.P EastSideLowlife..... R.I.P..

10-24-2004, 02:04 AM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	LOL! (The items he listed were all his)

10-24-2004, 04:41 AM	#4
A.P. Black 72 Chevy Join Date: May 2002 Location: Los Angeles, California Posts: 662	Good pics, please give us more.

10-24-2004, 09:56 AM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	That wouldn't be Erson would it? Do I win anything?

10-24-2004, 11:07 AM	#10
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	Yep, Erson cam. Super Shops, now long gone, was the biggest purveyor of Erson stuff around. I read that Super Shops stiffed Erson real big on money owed when they went bankrupt. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

10-24-2004, 11:52 AM	#11
gmc67swb Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Mesquite, Tx Posts: 396	Andy, that looks like the stuff that poured out of my 327 a month ago. I just went through the same thing you are now...Good luck. Now I just have to figure out what to do with the 327 and all the parts... :p __________________ GM 330HP/350, Magnuson 122HH, Tremec TKO 5spd

10-24-2004, 07:09 PM	#12
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I'm thinking of making an end table out of my dead 350. Along with a tailgate coffee table. Yeah, I'm kinda sick like that. The swap is goin OK, I'm being pickey as hell, so it is taking much longer than expected. It is bolted down in the truck now though...that's good. More pics and stuff later....oh yeah, a pic some of you may get a kick out of. I always say Vice Grips are the most important tool, they can be used as pliers, a wrench, a clam, and also, can be used to stop the bleeding. Attached Images

10-24-2004, 07:29 PM	#13
BobS Senior Member Join Date: May 2001 Location: West Central Minnesota Posts: 568	Nice heavy-duty hemostat you've got there! __________________ V-6....only GMC Trucks have it! 62 GMC W5000 NAPCO-V6 65 GMC 2500 NAPCO Panel-V6 66 GMC 1000-V6 66 GMC 1500-V6 67 GMC K1500-SBC (originally a KM-V6) 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC C1500-V6 68 GMC Suburban C2500 70 Chevy K20-SBC 71 Chevy C30 Longhorn-SBC 72 GMC Suburban C1500-BBC 72 Chevy C10-SBC 72 GMC C5500-ToroFlow Diesel

10-24-2004, 07:54 PM	#14
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	a table like this? These are cool.Don't know bout the wine bottles in the cylinders though...to upscale for me __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

10-24-2004, 08:12 PM	#15
BOSS Just here to help Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Norwood,Mo Posts: 3,893	I didnt think it would take too long to see blood......lol.Good job on the faq Andy.

10-24-2004, 08:12 PM	#16
big blue 72 Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: hamilton,ohio,usa Posts: 1,499	keep it comin' Andy. shame i cant keep this scrolling like a screen saver....



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10-24-2004, 08:19 PM	#17
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	Well I was gonna say It don't count unless you bleed,but you already figured that out:p Swap is looking good so far. Is that a new kind of oil you're draining out of there.I have drained that kind out several times __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website

10-24-2004, 08:44 PM	#18
chevytruckfan Account Suspended Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lake Placid, Florida Posts: 930	I have seen a lot of stuff come out of engines before but never mud. That is a new one.

10-24-2004, 08:59 PM	#19
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	thats not mud its a milkshake the byproduct of coolant and oil mixing who says oil and water dont mix __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

10-24-2004, 09:15 PM	#21
cableguy0 Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Delta,Pa Posts: 14,950	yea as true as that is they are together now so they are mixed __________________ Owner of North Point Car Care in Dundalk Md. We specialize in custom exhaust on both modern and classic vehicles. We are a full service auto shop from classics to modern vehicles. Feel free to contact me with questions. I will give a 10% discount to any board member.

10-25-2004, 12:06 AM	#23
whitesswj Embrace the Redneck Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cabot, AR Posts: 1,334	what kind of oil dipstick tube is that and where can i get one? Mine is on the passenger side and i'd like to get one that long. sswj __________________ '01 Camaro *Son, you just can't get there from here...*

10-25-2004, 12:20 AM	#24
Budweis Geared for Collision Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: St. Louis, Mo. Posts: 683	on some aftermarket cams its stamped like stock not on ends but between the lobes. last one i bought had no stampings tho. gotta love that coffee table __________________ MEMBER OF THE 4 WHEEL DISK BRAKE CLUB 1970 C/K20 3/4 Ton 1996 Collectors Edition Corvette 1977 Corvette Coupe

10-25-2004, 01:01 AM	#25
1969 GMC Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Rubber City Posts: 5,498	doesnt look like a 350 to me.... looks more like a hot chocolate maker! __________________ 1969 GMC K2500 1996 Honda Accord 2007 Kawasaki KLR 650

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