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67chevemall · 01-02-2005, 06:13 PM

oh SH!T!!!
I took the carb I'm to replace off!
And droped a 1/2" nut down the intake and I guess into the piston
camber

How can I get this out????
Take the sparkplugs out?
Take the intake off?
No not the heads!

Help!

71Shortbed · 01-02-2005, 06:23 PM

Oh H*ll.... I would try a few things before I got out a wrench. Try a shopvac or see if you can fish a magnetic parts retriever down in there. If you are lucky it didn't make it into a chamber.

DTerry · 01-02-2005, 06:37 PM

What ever you do, don't turn the motor over - it's very possible to bend a valve this way.

It's probably not in the cylinder yet. That's the last place I'd look. Try a mirror, light and a magnet. It's likely to be near the carb opening.

The worst thing you'll need to do is to take off the intake - it's really not that bad. Be careful if you do not to let this nut fall further down into the block. If it made it all the way to a valve, it'll be sitting right there where you can get it with the intake off.

Good luck.

cib101abn · 01-02-2005, 06:38 PM

never had this problem before but this is what I would try (after the above), disconnect battery, remove plugs, rotate engine by hand to bring each piston up to top one at a time and sweep across the piston with a magentic tool through the spark plug hole, do each one and see if it can be located.

Just today I broke a pair of channel lock pliers and the nut went downt the distributor hole (had dist. out, didn't plug hole with a rag or something) luckily found it with a magnetic tool.

good luck

Tx Firefighter · 01-02-2005, 06:58 PM

That 5/16 nut is going to be big enough that it probably wouldn't fall through if the valve was open anyway.

It is probably still in the intake tract somewhere. Fish it out with a magnet and a flashlight. If your intake is aluminum, you can tie a magnet to a string and fish it in and out of all 8 ports.

Worst case, you may have to pull the intake.

I wouldn't rotate the engine over under any circumstances. My opinion.

67chevemall · 01-02-2005, 07:15 PM

I'll have to get a magnet fishing pole!
What do you guys have? Magnet taped to a string would do it?
I looked down as far as I could in each hole and Nothing!
I'll try the magnet. If that doesn't work I'll take the intake off and
dump it out! Just need a magnet and a intake gasket now.

Tx Firefighter · 01-02-2005, 07:23 PM

I have several Snap-On magnets with telescoping handles for this kind of thing.

If you intake is aluminum, a string and magnet would be great as it would slide down each port until it found the nut. On an iron intake though, the magnet would stick and not slide at all. That's when you'd need a magnet on a stick or coat hanger or something so you can snake it down each passage.

*Randy70C-10* · 01-02-2005, 09:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tx Firefighter

That 5/16 nut is going to be big enough that it probably wouldn't fall through if the valve was open anyway.

Exactly what I was thinking. The worst you would have to do is remove the intake but if you're persistant enough you may not have to, but it's most likely resting on top of one of the intake valves inside the head.

71swb4x4 · 01-02-2005, 09:36 PM

Make sure the magnet is FIRMLY attached to whatever you are fishing it down there with. Wouldn't want to hear that you had to fish a nut and a magnet out

RainFade · 01-02-2005, 09:52 PM

This might be a good application for building a simple electro magnet, then you could fish it down in all the way to the valve w/o it trying to stick to the inside of the intake runner ??

simple electomagnet

Of course this could be totally

Good luck bro !!!!

67chevemall · 01-02-2005, 10:27 PM

got it with a stick from the garden, taped to a leather shoe lace
with some duct tape!
The magnet I got from a name tag from Burger King!
The one side of the magnet is plastic so it slides darn good!
Thanks for the help I ws worried.

Longhorn Man · 01-02-2005, 10:51 PM

Quote:

a stick from the garden, taped to a leather shoe lace
with some duct tape

Who needs snap on tools when you can come up with this stuff?!?!

As long as you get the job done!

4x4Poet · 01-02-2005, 10:56 PM

Congratulations, McGyver!

67chev · 01-03-2005, 11:05 AM

Kinda reminds me of this thread....
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ight=swallowed

Digging for something a little different, but this is what it reminded me of. Glad to hear you found it without having to disassemble the engine!!

67chevemall · 01-03-2005, 10:28 PM

Dont Worry Unless You Poop Two Dimes And A Nickel

Price less!

Rollie396 · 01-04-2005, 12:00 AM

lol awesome creativity!

**GSFMECH** · 01-04-2005, 12:36 AM

Man it was good to hear you got that thing. I had a screw fall out of the bottom of a quadrajet one time and it put a hole through the side of a cylinder wall. Congrats on fishing it out.
Mike

ChevLoRay · 01-04-2005, 11:43 AM

Glad to hear that you got it out.

One method I have used is to put a blob of grease on the end of a screwdriver, and use the stickiness of the grease to hold on to the reclusive nut/bolt/screw/washer. You have to wait until everything is cold, or the grease melts when contacted with something hot.

Magnetic retrievers in cast iron intakes ususally result in a fight between the magnet and anything that is made out of iron.

67chevemall · 01-15-2005, 10:03 PM

here is the pics of the gadget!

Super Duck · 01-15-2005, 10:44 PM

glad you got it out. I did the same thing when I was in high school. only it was a washer I didnt know when in the intake and started the motor. $50 worth of gaskets later I had it fixed.

frogsmakr · 01-16-2005, 11:20 AM

shop vac

01-02-2005, 06:13 PM	#1
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Oh man HELP! Bolt on the loose!!!!! oh SH!T!!! I took the carb I'm to replace off! And droped a 1/2" nut down the intake and I guess into the piston camber How can I get this out???? Take the sparkplugs out? Take the intake off? No not the heads! Help! __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-02-2005, 06:38 PM	#4
cib101abn Screaming Eagle Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: SW of Houston Posts: 288	never had this problem before but this is what I would try (after the above), disconnect battery, remove plugs, rotate engine by hand to bring each piston up to top one at a time and sweep across the piston with a magentic tool through the spark plug hole, do each one and see if it can be located. Just today I broke a pair of channel lock pliers and the nut went downt the distributor hole (had dist. out, didn't plug hole with a rag or something) luckily found it with a magnetic tool. good luck __________________ "Basic Research is what I am doing when I don't know what I am doing." Dr. Werner VonBraun (Rocket Scientist) Contributing Member 79 GMC SWB w/402 79 Chev SWB w400 sm blk being built remnants of 72 Cheyenne (selling)

01-02-2005, 06:58 PM	#5
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	That 5/16 nut is going to be big enough that it probably wouldn't fall through if the valve was open anyway. It is probably still in the intake tract somewhere. Fish it out with a magnet and a flashlight. If your intake is aluminum, you can tie a magnet to a string and fish it in and out of all 8 ports. Worst case, you may have to pull the intake. I wouldn't rotate the engine over under any circumstances. My opinion. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

01-02-2005, 07:23 PM	#7
Tx Firefighter Watch out for your cornhole ! Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Azle, Texas Posts: 14,162	I have several Snap-On magnets with telescoping handles for this kind of thing. If you intake is aluminum, a string and magnet would be great as it would slide down each port until it found the nut. On an iron intake though, the magnet would stick and not slide at all. That's when you'd need a magnet on a stick or coat hanger or something so you can snake it down each passage. __________________ I'm on the Instagram- @Gearhead_Kevin

01-02-2005, 09:36 PM	#9
71swb4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Brookings, SD Posts: 10,497	Make sure the magnet is FIRMLY attached to whatever you are fishing it down there with. Wouldn't want to hear that you had to fish a nut and a magnet out __________________ Some people are like slinkies, they aren't good for anything, but you can't help but smile when you see one tumble down the stairs.

01-02-2005, 06:23 PM	#2
71Shortbed Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Lilburn, GA Posts: 209	Oh H*ll.... I would try a few things before I got out a wrench. Try a shopvac or see if you can fish a magnetic parts retriever down in there. If you are lucky it didn't make it into a chamber.

01-02-2005, 06:37 PM	#3
DTerry '70 GMC C-25 LWB Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Binghamton, N.Y. Posts: 273	What ever you do, don't turn the motor over - it's very possible to bend a valve this way. It's probably not in the cylinder yet. That's the last place I'd look. Try a mirror, light and a magnet. It's likely to be near the carb opening. The worst thing you'll need to do is to take off the intake - it's really not that bad. Be careful if you do not to let this nut fall further down into the block. If it made it all the way to a valve, it'll be sitting right there where you can get it with the intake off. Good luck.

01-02-2005, 07:15 PM	#6
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	I'll have to get a magnet fishing pole! What do you guys have? Magnet taped to a string would do it? I looked down as far as I could in each hole and Nothing! I'll try the magnet. If that doesn't work I'll take the intake off and dump it out! Just need a magnet and a intake gasket now.

01-02-2005, 09:52 PM	#10
RainFade Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Central Ohio Posts: 215	This might be a good application for building a simple electro magnet, then you could fish it down in all the way to the valve w/o it trying to stick to the inside of the intake runner ?? simple electomagnet Of course this could be totally Good luck bro !!!! __________________ 71 K20 350/350/205, dealer air, 4" lift, Flowtech,Edel 1406 on 2101, procomp HEI,4.10's, 33x12.50x16.5 BFG MT's on slots. 4 wheel disc brakes. My lame K20 page My lame Eaton disc brake page

01-02-2005, 10:27 PM	#11
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	got it with a stick from the garden, taped to a leather shoe lace with some duct tape! The magnet I got from a name tag from Burger King! The one side of the magnet is plastic so it slides darn good! Thanks for the help I ws worried.

01-02-2005, 10:56 PM	#13
4x4Poet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: "Under Montana skies." Posts: 1,836	Congratulations, McGyver! __________________ '71 GMC K20 Suburban, '71 GMC K10 Suburban, '72 Chevy C10 CST Suburban, '72 Chevy K20 clunker pickup.

01-03-2005, 11:05 AM	#14
67chev Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 458	Kinda reminds me of this thread.... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ight=swallowed Digging for something a little different, but this is what it reminded me of. Glad to hear you found it without having to disassemble the engine!! __________________ "SicStee8" Chevy SWB Fleetside, in progress...500 HP 383 w/TriPower, 700r4, 3.73's, Lowered, Shaved Driprail/sidemarkers/handles/ant, Gonna rock!! '96 Chevy Tahoe 4X4 '84 Chevy C/K10 4X4 (FOR SALE)

01-03-2005, 10:28 PM	#15
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	Dont Worry Unless You Poop Two Dimes And A Nickel Price less! __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-04-2005, 12:00 AM	#16
Rollie396 someday it will be done! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Lloydminster,AB. Canada Posts: 1,620	lol awesome creativity! __________________ '72 C-10 Proud owner of a million new and used pieces that used to be and will once again be(god willing) a testament to the term "they don't build em like that anymore. '80 LWB 2wd beater '67 GMC long fleet (cab donor) '66 long step (parked till it's turn comes around) '65 short step (parts truck that will donate it's bed and possibly frame to the '66) '06 Grand Prix wife's car (she hardly lets me touch it) my pics

01-04-2005, 12:36 AM	#17
GSFMECH On the road Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: NATCHITOCHES LOUISIANA Posts: 818	Man it was good to hear you got that thing. I had a screw fall out of the bottom of a quadrajet one time and it put a hole through the side of a cylinder wall. Congrats on fishing it out. Mike __________________ Mike Castro- 72 SWB. Ochre and White. 496/400 turbo, GV OD ,Dakota Digital dash , tilt, Vintage Air, PS, hydro boost, factory buckets, console, QA-1 Coil over suspension, 20/20"Billet Specialties Magnetos 72 SWB. Med blue. 454/400 turbo, tach, tilt, Stock AC, PS,PDB, factory buckets, console, ECE 4/6 drop w/ 2" blocks and C-notch, 20/20"Coys- Crashed and destroyed by drunk driver Sept 2019. New 72 build in the works. My new build thread "Castro" https://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/...d.php?t=820934 My old build thread, the blue truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=271489 www.louisianaclassictruckclub.com



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01-04-2005, 11:43 AM	#18
ChevLoRay Old Skool Club Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Benton, AR "The Heart of Arkansas" Posts: 10,880	Glad to hear that you got it out. One method I have used is to put a blob of grease on the end of a screwdriver, and use the stickiness of the grease to hold on to the reclusive nut/bolt/screw/washer. You have to wait until everything is cold, or the grease melts when contacted with something hot. Magnetic retrievers in cast iron intakes ususally result in a fight between the magnet and anything that is made out of iron. __________________ Member Nr. 2770 '96 GMC Sportside; 4.3/SLT - Daily driven....constantly needs washed. '69 C-10 SWB; 350/TH400 - in limbo The older I get, the better I was.

01-15-2005, 10:03 PM	#19
67chevemall Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: NB Posts: 3,367	here is the pics of the gadget! __________________ 1968 Chevy C10 307 3ott fleetside 1967 Chevy C/10 V8, 3spd, fleetside lwb.Sold 1967 Chev C/10 step, 383, M21. SOLD

01-15-2005, 10:44 PM	#20
Super Duck Chevy Nuttttt Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Santa Maria Ca. Posts: 568	glad you got it out. I did the same thing when I was in high school. only it was a washer I didnt know when in the intake and started the motor. $50 worth of gaskets later I had it fixed. __________________ 67' Chev swb step side 69' SS elky 03' Chev ext cab 4X4 hey who lernt me to spell is there anything else?

01-16-2005, 11:20 AM	#21
frogsmakr Registered User Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Sherwood AR Posts: 553	shop vac

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