Guys with airbags, front shock part #? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 03:21 PM

What part # shock, did you use in the front? I'm particularly looking for dimensions. My front shocks I have now, the collapsed size is 10", I was looking on ART's website, and they're shocks collapsed size is 9.5", so...and I won't be airing ALL the way down, so I think I'll be ok with my 10"ers, right?

**N2TRUX** · 01-31-2005, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TIMSPEED

.....and I won't be airing ALL the way down, so I think I'll be ok with my 10"ers, right?

Why won't you be " airing ALL the way down"?

The kit on my 77 called for ART# MON33033....

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Why won't you be " airing ALL the way down"?

The kit on my 77 called for ART# MON33033....

Well, I won't be YET...before I air down, I want to either do a X-member drop or Z the frame, so I can REALLY get down

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 05:23 PM

Hey Ken,
can you air your 77 all the way out? Those #33033's compressed length is 10.25", while mine is 10". So, if you can air yours all the way down, I will be able to aswell.

Yay! Now I don't have to buy new shocks for the airbags.

**N2TRUX** · 01-31-2005, 05:26 PM

Tim, you have me confused. What does a X-member drop or Z'ing the frame have to do with you airing out your system and the shocks you use?

**N2TRUX** · 01-31-2005, 05:32 PM

Well yes and no! I can let al the air out of my system, so that means I can air it out! Are the shocks the limiting factor of how low it will go? No! I have custom made bump stops to limit the travel so it doesn't rest on the shocks, OR rub on the fender liners. My truck will roll in the event of system failure.

What I'm trying to tell you is I created the limits of travel. It could go lower if I didn't have the bumpstop set at the height it is. My guess is the shocks would "try" to limit that and the tires would hit the fender liners next.

A good visual of that in practice would be the pic of my Blazer crossmember laying on the ground. The reason it is laying on the ground is because the fender liner (and front clip) weren't on the truck to limit the travel....

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 05:39 PM

I understand what you're saying Ken, and I'm going to do the same thing, have it set up, so if I pop a bag, it'll just rest on the bumpstop. Your truck gets DAMN low, and that's what I'm after, and since I don't have to buy a new set of shocks, it works for me!
What I'm after, is to tuck the top portion (and I mean the VERY top) of my 28" front tires.
What size are your front tires Ken, and can you tuck them just a BIT, with your setup like it is? (Remember, I have long tubes, so I won't be going THAT low)

r0lf- · 01-31-2005, 05:54 PM

Ken, id like to know the dimensions of your bumpstops. Because when I was fixing my shock extenders yesterday, I realised that my front will lay out and clear my thorleys since they dont lay any lower than the front X member, but Id like to have that extra insurance that I wont be banging em up everytime I air out.

BaggedC10 · 01-31-2005, 06:58 PM

Tim, your making no sense as usual.

You need shock absorbers that measure 10.125" (Collapsed) by 14" (Extended).

BaggedC10 · 01-31-2005, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TIMSPEED

I understand what you're saying Ken, and I'm going to do the same thing, have it set up, so if I pop a bag, it'll just rest on the bumpstop. Your truck gets DAMN low, and that's what I'm after, and since I don't have to buy a new set of shocks, it works for me!
What I'm after, is to tuck the top portion (and I mean the VERY top) of my 28" front tires.
What size are your front tires Ken, and can you tuck them just a BIT, with your setup like it is? (Remember, I have long tubes, so I won't be going THAT low)

No offense to Ken but his 77' C10 is far from "damn low".

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BaggedC10

You need shock absorbers that measure 10.125" (Collapsed) by 14" (Extended).

Mine measure 10"(collapsed) x 15.25"(extended) so i guess I'm good. I know Ken isn't damn low, but compared to me, he IS.

bagged74 · 01-31-2005, 08:12 PM

10" collapsed will be just fine, I used stcok length shocks on my blazer and they were not the limiting factor. THe A-arms will hit the ground before the shock bottoms out.

BaggedC10 · 01-31-2005, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TIMSPEED

I know Ken isn't damn low, but compared to me, he IS.

True. Your truck still looks like a 4x4.

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BaggedC10

True. Your truck still looks like a 4x4.

Not for long!

BaggedC10 · 01-31-2005, 09:03 PM

If you were closer, I would offer to help. BTW, let me know the next time you go to Sacramento Raceway. It's only a 45-minute drive or so from my house.

TIMSPEED · 01-31-2005, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BaggedC10

If you were closer, I would offer to help. BTW, let me know the next time you go to Sacramento Raceway. It's only a 45-minute drive or so from my house.

It's about the same distance from my house :p We're going back in March, but I won't be in the truck.

**N2TRUX** · 01-31-2005, 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by r0lf-

Ken, id like to know the dimensions of your bumpstops. ....

I don't have the truck here to give an exact measurement. As you can see it's pretty tall....

And remember guys this is the "before" pic of my suspension....

r0lf- · 01-31-2005, 11:26 PM

Man I really need to get off my ass one of these days and install my bags

Im thinking im gonna wait till I get the compressor/solenoids though. I dont wanna be stuck down there with no way back up.

**N2TRUX** · 01-31-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TIMSPEED

....What size are your front tires Ken, and can you tuck them just a BIT, with your setup like it is?.....

My front tires are 245/40/20's which calculates out to 27.71" so that's pretty close to your 28" tire.

Here it is "aired out".....

r0lf- · 02-01-2005, 09:35 PM

You have any shots of under the rear with it aired out? That looks to be at where im sitting now, maybe a little lower.

SanitysBane · 02-01-2005, 10:00 PM

So the shocks can keep you from airing out? I would have thought that with the weight of the vehicle it would just force the shock down.

**N2TRUX** · 02-02-2005, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by SanitysBane

So the shocks can keep you from airing out? I would have thought that with the weight of the vehicle it would just force the shock down.

Yes the shocks can limit how low you go. If they hit the bottom of their travel before the suspension bottoms out they will effectively become your bump stop.....for a while.

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Originally Posted by r0lf-

You have any shots of under the rear with it aired out? That looks to be at where im sitting now, maybe a little lower.

No not with the bed on anyway. All I have of the rear are with the bed off and before the bump stops are mounted...

TIMSPEED · 02-02-2005, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by N2TRUX

Yes the shocks can limit how low you go. If they hit the bottom of their travel before the suspension bottoms out they will effectively become your bump stop.....for a while.

Exactly...1 ton pressing down on them can only last so long.

r0lf- · 02-02-2005, 02:13 AM

So with like Zero leafs in there like you have, id guess that sits right on the notch. Ok, thats a good 3 inches lower than mine. Where did you get the upper bag brackets for the sleeve bags? Thats around the same placement I wanna use for my canti setup.

Oh and how does that ride? The AOL with 1 leaf or so?

01-31-2005, 03:21 PM	#1
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	Guys with airbags, front shock part #? What part # shock, did you use in the front? I'm particularly looking for dimensions. My front shocks I have now, the collapsed size is 10", I was looking on ART's website, and they're shocks collapsed size is 9.5", so...and I won't be airing ALL the way down, so I think I'll be ok with my 10"ers, right? __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

01-31-2005, 05:23 PM	#4
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	Hey Ken, can you air your 77 all the way out? Those #33033's compressed length is 10.25", while mine is 10". So, if you can air yours all the way down, I will be able to aswell. Yay! Now I don't have to buy new shocks for the airbags. __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

01-31-2005, 05:32 PM	#6
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Well yes and no! I can let al the air out of my system, so that means I can air it out! Are the shocks the limiting factor of how low it will go? No! I have custom made bump stops to limit the travel so it doesn't rest on the shocks, OR rub on the fender liners. My truck will roll in the event of system failure. What I'm trying to tell you is I created the limits of travel. It could go lower if I didn't have the bumpstop set at the height it is. My guess is the shocks would "try" to limit that and the tires would hit the fender liners next. A good visual of that in practice would be the pic of my Blazer crossmember laying on the ground. The reason it is laying on the ground is because the fender liner (and front clip) weren't on the truck to limit the travel.... Attached Images __________________ Follow me on Facebook and Instagram @N2trux.com Articles- "Jake" the 84 to 74 crewcab "Elwood" the77_Remix 85 GMC Sierra "Scarlett" "Refining Sierra"

01-31-2005, 05:39 PM	#7
TIMSPEED Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 1,321	I understand what you're saying Ken, and I'm going to do the same thing, have it set up, so if I pop a bag, it'll just rest on the bumpstop. Your truck gets DAMN low, and that's what I'm after, and since I don't have to buy a new set of shocks, it works for me! What I'm after, is to tuck the top portion (and I mean the VERY top) of my 28" front tires. What size are your front tires Ken, and can you tuck them just a BIT, with your setup like it is? (Remember, I have long tubes, so I won't be going THAT low) __________________ I have a few cars... See Them Here

01-31-2005, 05:54 PM	#8
r0lf- Hotwheels? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 1,145	Ken, id like to know the dimensions of your bumpstops. Because when I was fixing my shock extenders yesterday, I realised that my front will lay out and clear my thorleys since they dont lay any lower than the front X member, but Id like to have that extra insurance that I wont be banging em up everytime I air out. __________________ 1978 Money Pit - CUSTOM DELUXE!!!!

01-31-2005, 05:26 PM	#5
N2TRUX Happy to be here Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Cypress, TX Posts: 39,021	Tim, you have me confused. What does a X-member drop or Z'ing the frame have to do with you airing out your system and the shocks you use?

01-31-2005, 06:58 PM	#9
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	Tim, your making no sense as usual. You need shock absorbers that measure 10.125" (Collapsed) by 14" (Extended). __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold

01-31-2005, 08:12 PM	#12
bagged74 its just $$$$$ Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: OK Posts: 2,078	10" collapsed will be just fine, I used stcok length shocks on my blazer and they were not the limiting factor. THe A-arms will hit the ground before the shock bottoms out.

01-31-2005, 09:03 PM	#15
BaggedC10 Under construction! Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: NorCal Posts: 1,065	If you were closer, I would offer to help. BTW, let me know the next time you go to Sacramento Raceway. It's only a 45-minute drive or so from my house. __________________ 2001 Silverado bagged on 22's. Sold

01-31-2005, 11:26 PM	#18
r0lf- Hotwheels? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 1,145	Man I really need to get off my ass one of these days and install my bags Im thinking im gonna wait till I get the compressor/solenoids though. I dont wanna be stuck down there with no way back up. __________________ 1978 Money Pit - CUSTOM DELUXE!!!!

02-01-2005, 09:35 PM	#20
r0lf- Hotwheels? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 1,145	You have any shots of under the rear with it aired out? That looks to be at where im sitting now, maybe a little lower. __________________ 1978 Money Pit - CUSTOM DELUXE!!!!

02-01-2005, 10:00 PM	#21
SanitysBane Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Lubbock, Texas Posts: 2,121	So the shocks can keep you from airing out? I would have thought that with the weight of the vehicle it would just force the shock down. __________________ '96 Nissan Pathfinder '02 Firebird Trans Am. '88 K5 Blazer

02-02-2005, 02:13 AM	#24
r0lf- Hotwheels? Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Pleasant Hill, CA Posts: 1,145	So with like Zero leafs in there like you have, id guess that sits right on the notch. Ok, thats a good 3 inches lower than mine. Where did you get the upper bag brackets for the sleeve bags? Thats around the same placement I wanna use for my canti setup. Oh and how does that ride? The AOL with 1 leaf or so? __________________ 1978 Money Pit - CUSTOM DELUXE!!!! Last edited by r0lf-; 02-02-2005 at 02:15 AM.

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