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R@nger · 04-01-2005, 05:53 PM

I just found this site and I must say I'm very impressed. I've been looking for a site like this for a while now.

I do have a question that's been puzzling me a little bit.

Last year my friend ask me if I wanted this old truck he bought from some farmers son. Of course I accepted but the thing is I'm not exactly sure what model my truck is. I'm almost positive it is a 71 but like I said the model I'm unsure of. Let me tell ya the things I do know about it so you truck gurus can work your magic. It's a 3/4 ton, 350, 2wd, AT(Really wish it was manual but I got the truck for FREE so I'm not sweatin it

).

I've already done alot of body work and still have alot to do. I've done the whole right side and its looking pretty good. I just ordered some Heddman headers, K&N 14x4 air filter, Accel 8.8 Spiral spark plug wires and a Tach(Find it annoying to not see my RPMs.

). I'm also getting a custom exhaust done sometime within this month.

My next project will be to take the engine out, rebuild it, and strip and paint the engine compartment.

I'd appreciate any feedback on what my truck model is and I'm definately open to suggestions on what I should do with my truck. So you have an idea of where I'm heading with it let me just say it's not going to be stock. I'm going for a newer, beefed up look. I'm almost 100% positive I'm gonna paint it black but I'm thinkin a midnight blue would look great too.

Thanks

LUV2XCLR8 · 04-01-2005, 06:06 PM

2 THE BOARD FROM WEST 10-UH-C

TRUCK, IT'S A GMC GRILL, DOES IT STILL HAVE THE
GLOVEBOX STICKER

, ALSO THE VIN NUMBER WILL HELP

ALSO, WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED (YOU CAN FILL IN YOUR
INFORMATION UNDER "USER CP" ON THE TOP RIGHT SIDE)

Old Dave · 04-01-2005, 06:18 PM

Welcome from Kansas. Looks like you got a heck of a deal for being free. Lots of GMC people here...somebody will know.

R@nger · 04-01-2005, 06:20 PM

No unfortnately the farmer boy could care less about such things. There are alot of things that were chopped, hacked, erased, or destroyed all by this one guy. He had a home stereo system hooked up in the truck if that gives ya a clue

.

Let me see about getting the VIN for ya. I believe it's still stamped on a metal plate on the inside of the door frame.

Orange70chevy · 04-01-2005, 07:23 PM

I would say a 72 because of the rear view mirror is mounted on the windsheld. But the cab could of been changed or someone might of just mounted the rear view mirror on the windsheld. The VIN will tell you or the title.

R@nger · 04-01-2005, 10:06 PM

Ok the VIN is CE134-Z112501

franko72 · 04-01-2005, 10:10 PM

Free is a good start!

Rod · 04-01-2005, 10:21 PM

Welcome
CE134-Z112501

C= Conventional cab
E= eight cylinder
1 = 1/2 ton
34= fleet side box
Z = Fremont assembly plant
1 = 1971

rest is sequence number

I'd say either the vin or cab has been changed...it does look like a 72 cab as the inside rear view mirrors where on the windshileds on 72 cabs. The front bumper is from chev more than likely..no cut outs for the gmc lower singnal lights except 67 which both used same non-cut out bumper anyway.

So check if it has disc brakes up front...as that happened in 71-72

Do the doors have dimples and little screws near the wing windows to attach to the outter door skin..thats a 72 only door..theres lots of ways to tell what is what..and on this board you'll get the answers. Its a good start...and build it how you like.

Have a good one. Rod

Hutch · 04-01-2005, 10:25 PM

R@nger
The GMC numbers are tricky
This previous post will help ya figure it out.
http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ghlight=decode

*dtlilly* · 04-01-2005, 11:07 PM

Welcome to the board, good to see another GMC around!

MARIOS68PANEL · 04-01-2005, 11:16 PM

I Love Free. Welcome from another new guy from Norcal.

R@nger · 04-01-2005, 11:39 PM

Awesome thanks a ton guys.

why I think its a 3/4 ton is cause it has the 8 lug wheels and leaf springs on the back.

It has vented drums I believe.

Rod · 04-01-2005, 11:50 PM

Drums all the way around?...then its older 1970 or earlier.

I fits 8 bolt rims its 3/4 ton no doubt. Just letting you know the vin is a 1/2 ton range...unless it started CE234-Z1*****

R@nger · 04-02-2005, 12:25 AM

Hmm Interesting...I'll have to check into this

R@nger · 04-02-2005, 01:39 AM

Ok I found my title and on the title it says its a 71 GMC C1500. I thought the C1500 was a newer truck. Aren't the old trucks C10, C15 C25 and such?

This picture varifies that it is a GMC. However during my many visits underneath that truck replacing the starter and what not I noticed one side of the cab mount has one less bushing than the other...I guess its possible that the cab was replaced. The tailgate however says Chevrolet so maybe its sittin on a chevrolet frame..I don't know.

Oh and Rod yes, each door has a little dimple with a screw in the middle. Notice in this pic.

Not sure if this helps any but its got a heater but no air conditioning. Was it 73 they started putting air in it? My friend(the guy who gave me this truck) has an old GMC that I thought was a 73 and it has air conditioning. It looks alot like my truck.

Oh and the gas tank is behind the seat. Again I'm new to all these truck models and such so I'm trying to throw out any information that might be helpful to you guys.

69 Short Fleet · 04-02-2005, 03:07 AM

Welcome to the board from BC Canada! Your truck looks like it's in good hands, keep up the good work!

LUV2XCLR8 · 04-02-2005, 08:17 AM

DOORS ARE DEFINATELY 72'S

STILL A VERY NICE RIG FOR FREE,
EVEN IF IT IS A LIL BIT OF FRANKENSTEINED, OUTSIDE OF US ON
THIS BOARD, VERY FEW PEOPLE WILL NO IT'S BEEN MISMATCHED,
I SAY YOU SCORED, HELL I'LL TAKE IT IF THAT BOTHERS YOU.

R@nger · 04-02-2005, 03:49 PM

Doesn't bother me in the least. Just wondered what I was working with.

Thanks for all your help guys.

**Palf70Step** · 04-02-2005, 07:41 PM

Welcome from south Mississippi. Looks like you got a got solid start for your project. The price was extremely reasonable.

BTW.....muttts are good...it brings out the best in us and our trucks.

Brainchild · 04-02-2005, 07:48 PM

Looks like a 72 to me from the doors,and mirror,and the grille is also 71-72 model.Looks like a nice truck for a project.And the price was right

Welcome ot the boards.

R@nger · 04-02-2005, 07:51 PM

Hey I have a question. Like I mentioned in the top of my post I just bought some heddman headers. They will be here Monday or Tuesday. My question is do I need to put any sealer, or anything on my gaskets or bolts? I want to make sure I install these headers properly so I can get the full potential out of them. I've never had to replace headers or exhaust manifolds so this is rather new to me. Any tips would be awesome.

R@nger · 04-02-2005, 08:03 PM

I forgot who asked but I do have disk brakes in the front.

qtpies67 · 04-03-2005, 12:51 AM

Hello all, qtpie here, imported to Salina Ks from Lincoln Ne. Husband Ran Man and I are currently working on a 67 stepside longbox or at least it is for now, also have a 69 fleetside that we are using for parts, going to take a while though as no $$$ to do all we want. Have enjoyed your site and I am learning as I go, Ran Man is the body man and I do the engine. Also love to quilt and make wall hangings. (in my spare time.) HA HA I am sure we will be asking a few questions as we go.

R@nger · 04-03-2005, 12:54 AM

Not exactly the place to post that but...welcome

.

***Josh*** · 04-03-2005, 01:19 AM

Welcome to the Board.

Those Rivets holding the VIN tag on don't look like the factory rose rivets..... Hard to tell from the picture tho, looks like a good base to build a truck how ya want it without fear of originality freaks trying to kill you

04-01-2005, 05:53 PM	#1
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	New Guy I just found this site and I must say I'm very impressed. I've been looking for a site like this for a while now. I do have a question that's been puzzling me a little bit. Last year my friend ask me if I wanted this old truck he bought from some farmers son. Of course I accepted but the thing is I'm not exactly sure what model my truck is. I'm almost positive it is a 71 but like I said the model I'm unsure of. Let me tell ya the things I do know about it so you truck gurus can work your magic. It's a 3/4 ton, 350, 2wd, AT(Really wish it was manual but I got the truck for FREE so I'm not sweatin it ). I've already done alot of body work and still have alot to do. I've done the whole right side and its looking pretty good. I just ordered some Heddman headers, K&N 14x4 air filter, Accel 8.8 Spiral spark plug wires and a Tach(Find it annoying to not see my RPMs. ). I'm also getting a custom exhaust done sometime within this month. My next project will be to take the engine out, rebuild it, and strip and paint the engine compartment. I'd appreciate any feedback on what my truck model is and I'm definately open to suggestions on what I should do with my truck. So you have an idea of where I'm heading with it let me just say it's not going to be stock. I'm going for a newer, beefed up look. I'm almost 100% positive I'm gonna paint it black but I'm thinkin a midnight blue would look great too. Thanks Last edited by R@nger; 04-01-2005 at 06:02 PM.

04-01-2005, 06:06 PM	#2
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	2 THE BOARD FROM WEST 10-UH-C TRUCK, IT'S A GMC GRILL, DOES IT STILL HAVE THE GLOVEBOX STICKER , ALSO THE VIN NUMBER WILL HELP ALSO, WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED (YOU CAN FILL IN YOUR INFORMATION UNDER "USER CP" ON THE TOP RIGHT SIDE) __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T Last edited by LUV2XCLR8; 04-01-2005 at 06:08 PM.

04-01-2005, 06:18 PM	#3
Old Dave Is a bullfrog waterproof? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: OLATHE, KANSAS Posts: 1,130	Welcome from Kansas. Looks like you got a heck of a deal for being free. Lots of GMC people here...somebody will know. __________________ "It is better to remain silent and be thought a fool, than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt." Ben Franklin __________________ 1970 Chevy shortbed 2002 Harley Custom Chopper (Long sucker) 1998 K2500 5.7L 5-speed Longbed 1st two are My son's toys...they just live in my garage! 1997 GMC K1500 Suburban 1993 S-10 Blazer 4D (youngest son's daily driver) 2000 Dodge Ram 4WD Ext. Cab (5.9L) Wife is a late year 1951

04-01-2005, 10:10 PM	#7
franko72 Franko72 Join Date: May 2004 Location: Cincinnati,Ohio Posts: 471	Free is a good start! __________________ 1972 C20 cheyenne Super 402 BB/400 turbo LWB A/C Tilt, Cruise Control, Saddle tanks, Tach My Home Page Better to burn out than it is to rust

04-01-2005, 10:21 PM	#8
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Welcome CE134-Z112501 C= Conventional cab E= eight cylinder 1 = 1/2 ton 34= fleet side box Z = Fremont assembly plant 1 = 1971 rest is sequence number I'd say either the vin or cab has been changed...it does look like a 72 cab as the inside rear view mirrors where on the windshileds on 72 cabs. The front bumper is from chev more than likely..no cut outs for the gmc lower singnal lights except 67 which both used same non-cut out bumper anyway. So check if it has disc brakes up front...as that happened in 71-72 Do the doors have dimples and little screws near the wing windows to attach to the outter door skin..thats a 72 only door..theres lots of ways to tell what is what..and on this board you'll get the answers. Its a good start...and build it how you like. Have a good one. Rod __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

04-01-2005, 06:20 PM	#4
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	No unfortnately the farmer boy could care less about such things. There are alot of things that were chopped, hacked, erased, or destroyed all by this one guy. He had a home stereo system hooked up in the truck if that gives ya a clue . Let me see about getting the VIN for ya. I believe it's still stamped on a metal plate on the inside of the door frame.

04-01-2005, 07:23 PM	#5
Orange70chevy Registered User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Penelope, Texas Posts: 393	I would say a 72 because of the rear view mirror is mounted on the windsheld. But the cab could of been changed or someone might of just mounted the rear view mirror on the windsheld. The VIN will tell you or the title.

04-01-2005, 10:06 PM	#6
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Ok the VIN is CE134-Z112501

04-01-2005, 10:25 PM	#9
Hutch Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Grapevine, Tx. Posts: 2,142	R@nger The GMC numbers are tricky This previous post will help ya figure it out. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ghlight=decode __________________ John Hutchison Grapevine,Texas 68 1/2 t swb 68 Mustang 69 Jaguar 71 1/2 t swb 88 Supra CompTs6m 93 Escort GT 2005 Corolla XRS

04-01-2005, 11:07 PM	#10
dtlilly Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Shadow of Lambeau Field Posts: 5,597	Welcome to the board, good to see another GMC around!

04-01-2005, 11:16 PM	#11
MARIOS68PANEL Active Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: North Highlands. California Posts: 449	welcome I Love Free. Welcome from another new guy from Norcal. __________________ 67 short step 71 Custom

04-01-2005, 11:39 PM	#12
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Awesome thanks a ton guys. why I think its a 3/4 ton is cause it has the 8 lug wheels and leaf springs on the back. It has vented drums I believe.

04-01-2005, 11:50 PM	#13
Rod Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Eastern - Manitoba Canada, Winnipeg Posts: 4,369	Drums all the way around?...then its older 1970 or earlier. I fits 8 bolt rims its 3/4 ton no doubt. Just letting you know the vin is a 1/2 ton range...unless it started CE234-Z1***** __________________ Senior active founding member. 70 3/4 ton GMC Suburban 4x4 250/4 spd. 71 1/2 ton Suburban Chevy 4x4, 350/350 72 Chev 1 ton tow truck 402BB w/Holmes 440 wrecker on propane 2005 FLSTSCI Harley Springer 85 FXSB Harley Lowrider 72 Triumph 650 Bonneville 5spd "Poor people don't have hobbies" Quote from wife.

04-02-2005, 12:25 AM	#14
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Hmm Interesting...I'll have to check into this

04-02-2005, 01:39 AM	#15
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Ok I found my title and on the title it says its a 71 GMC C1500. I thought the C1500 was a newer truck. Aren't the old trucks C10, C15 C25 and such? This picture varifies that it is a GMC. However during my many visits underneath that truck replacing the starter and what not I noticed one side of the cab mount has one less bushing than the other...I guess its possible that the cab was replaced. The tailgate however says Chevrolet so maybe its sittin on a chevrolet frame..I don't know. Oh and Rod yes, each door has a little dimple with a screw in the middle. Notice in this pic. Not sure if this helps any but its got a heater but no air conditioning. Was it 73 they started putting air in it? My friend(the guy who gave me this truck) has an old GMC that I thought was a 73 and it has air conditioning. It looks alot like my truck. Oh and the gas tank is behind the seat. Again I'm new to all these truck models and such so I'm trying to throw out any information that might be helpful to you guys. Last edited by R@nger; 04-02-2005 at 02:03 AM.



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04-02-2005, 03:07 AM	#16
69 Short Fleet Registered User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Kelowna B.C. Canada Posts: 1,086	Welcome to the board from BC Canada! Your truck looks like it's in good hands, keep up the good work!

04-02-2005, 08:17 AM	#17
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,468	DOORS ARE DEFINATELY 72'S STILL A VERY NICE RIG FOR FREE, EVEN IF IT IS A LIL BIT OF FRANKENSTEINED, OUTSIDE OF US ON THIS BOARD, VERY FEW PEOPLE WILL NO IT'S BEEN MISMATCHED, I SAY YOU SCORED, HELL I'LL TAKE IT IF THAT BOTHERS YOU. __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

04-02-2005, 03:49 PM	#18
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Doesn't bother me in the least. Just wondered what I was working with. Thanks for all your help guys. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-02-2005, 07:41 PM	#19
Palf70Step State of Confusion! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Gulfport, MS USA Posts: 47,216	Welcome from south Mississippi. Looks like you got a got solid start for your project. The price was extremely reasonable. BTW.....muttts are good...it brings out the best in us and our trucks. __________________ Bill 1970 Chevy Custom/10 LWB Fleetside 2010 Toyota Tacoma PreRunner SR5 Double Cab - DD Member of Louisiana Classic Truck Club (LCTC) Bill's Gallery Life isn't tied with a bow, but it's still a gift. Live simply. Love generously. Care deeply. Speak kindly. Leave the rest to God!

04-02-2005, 07:48 PM	#20
Brainchild Still drivin' a Rat Rod Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Monett Missouri Posts: 4,925	Looks like a 72 to me from the doors,and mirror,and the grille is also 71-72 model.Looks like a nice truck for a project.And the price was right Welcome ot the boards. __________________ Rusty Member #13872 Instead of saying.....you are a discomfort in the back of my front.....one should be able to say...... you are a pain in the a$# 71 GMC LWB 49 Chevy 85 Chevy G20 Check out my website

04-02-2005, 07:51 PM	#21
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Hey I have a question. Like I mentioned in the top of my post I just bought some heddman headers. They will be here Monday or Tuesday. My question is do I need to put any sealer, or anything on my gaskets or bolts? I want to make sure I install these headers properly so I can get the full potential out of them. I've never had to replace headers or exhaust manifolds so this is rather new to me. Any tips would be awesome. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy Last edited by R@nger; 04-02-2005 at 07:51 PM.

04-02-2005, 08:03 PM	#22
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	I forgot who asked but I do have disk brakes in the front. __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy

04-03-2005, 12:51 AM	#23
qtpies67 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 1	Howdy all Hello all, qtpie here, imported to Salina Ks from Lincoln Ne. Husband Ran Man and I are currently working on a 67 stepside longbox or at least it is for now, also have a 69 fleetside that we are using for parts, going to take a while though as no $$$ to do all we want. Have enjoyed your site and I am learning as I go, Ran Man is the body man and I do the engine. Also love to quilt and make wall hangings. (in my spare time.) HA HA I am sure we will be asking a few questions as we go.

04-03-2005, 12:54 AM	#24
R@nger Psalm 23 Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Utah Posts: 360	Not exactly the place to post that but...welcome . __________________ 71 GMC Fleetside C15(cab), 3/4 ton, 350, Holley Street Avenger 570cfm carb, TH350 trans, Leaf-springs, 2WD. "Peter are you sleeping on the job? No I have a bug in my eye and I'm trying to suffocate him." - Family Guy Last edited by R@nger; 04-03-2005 at 12:55 AM.

04-03-2005, 01:19 AM	#25
*Josh* He's got mean nasty FANGS! Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Rockwell, NC Posts: 6,514	Welcome to the Board. Those Rivets holding the VIN tag on don't look like the factory rose rivets..... Hard to tell from the picture tho, looks like a good base to build a truck how ya want it without fear of originality freaks trying to kill you __________________ 2004 K2500 Burb 1999 C3500 1985 Cutlass Supreme 1969 C-10 1967 C-10 Panel josh@67-72chevytrucks.com

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