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Would I get my money back if I sold this?
A couple weeks ago I bought my '79 C20 LWB for $550. The body is straight and rust free, but that's about it's only good feature. I bought it just as a beater for hauling parts, but now I want to restore it.
![]() Here's what I want to do: Paint it myself ~ $400 Wheels and tires ~ $1000 Interior replacements ~ $800 5.3L/overdrive tranny swap ~ $2000 Roughly $4750 total. Probably closer to $4500. Do you think I could get that much for it if I sold it? It would basically look and run like a new truck...but I know 2wd, 3/4 ton, and LWB aren't "the rage" right now. I have no plans to sell it after doing all that work, but I change my mind drastically overnight... ![]() |
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if it looks good you will prolly get pretty close to that if its done right
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![]() Build to use Build to keep ![]() ....just my $.02 Good luck with the resto!!
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AspecialZ, I don't have any plans to sell it right now, but like I said I change my mind alot...
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Double the price on that 5.3 idea...
There is are a lot of hidden expenses in there. My TPI swap as 1000 bucks, and that is a bolt on jobber!
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Motor mounts from advance adapters: $75 Fuel pump: $150 Misc: $500? Sell old engine/tranny: -$500-800 Total: $925 - $1725 Swapin' a chevy V8 into a big old chevy truck aint rocket surgery... ![]() TPI parts are kind of expensive...5.3L drivetrains are a dime a dozen around here... Last edited by ZmOz; 05-02-2005 at 01:05 AM. |
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as for building with the possibility of selling it, dont ever expect to get what you put into it back out of it. you've got better chances of winning the lottery. |
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This is the second time I have seen that you have asked for people's opinions. Both times you have argued with them when they don't say what you want to hear.
A 350 chevy swap into a Jeep is not comparable to the one you want to do with a fully computerized late model engine. If you wanted to put a 350 in your truck, or even an old carburated Ford engine, it would probably be comparable, but this isn't. There is a lot more to the swap than just getting the engine to bolt in. I don't know any of the details because I have never tried anything like it, but I do know that late model engines rely on a lot of data from sources all over the vehicle to run correctly. I don't doubt that it is possible to make it work, but I do doubt that it can be done as cheaply and easily as you think. If you are up to the challenge, go ahead and do it. I hope you prove everyone wrong. Slonaker |
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You are forgetting your labor. I did my truck pretty close from ground up restore. and i have spent $3600 have did nothing to interior yet. Thats with almost stock motor MY TIME I have close to $6000. As a investment you will lose. Keep It and drive it for while you will get your money back.
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![]() Somebody PLEASE explain to me what is missing here that could possibly cost thousands of dollars: Engine/tranny/accessories/harness/computer: $1000-$1500 Motor mounts from advance adapters: $75 Fuel pump: $150 Misc: $500? Sell old engine/tranny: -$500-800 Total: $925 - $1725 |
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There are a million little things that are QUITE expensive that will nickle and dime ya to death.
I figured I could get my TPI setup up and running for about 400 bucks, that wound up being over a grand! Trust me, we've seen this many times before, some guy like yourself comes running in here and says he can do something for 2 grand, and winds up putting down 4 - 5 grand! Happens all the time, as there are constantly little things that go wrong, need to be replaced, etc. For example, if your MAF is no good, there goes your 500 dollar misc right there... These fuel injection are by no means cheap. You gotta remember that those magazine guys have everything supplied to them, so to them, it probally is quite easy. If you wanna do the swap, kudos to you! Infact, I very seriously considered a 5.3 / 4l60e swap myself! But I took the advice of people and decided to leave it to a later date when I will have enough cash to pour in if thats what it comes down to. Best thing you can do is prove us all wrong and get it done for 1400 or so, then you have every right to say "HA, told ya so!" Until then, we'll just base our observations on other's experiences to date ![]() For a perfect example, go ask N2TRUX about the engine swap into his blazer!
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What kinda engine/tranny do you have that you're planning on selling for close to double the value you paid for the truck?
And those engines are everyway up there, but does that make them cheaper? And will you get a perfectly good one for low price, no parts/money need, just do swap and drive away?
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Allright I have a question, why not just rebuild that big block, and put on a "bolt on" injectin kit like an edelbrock system on it? And it doesn't matter what the blue book or what ever value of something is, its how much someone wants to pay for it.
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Nothing personal but I also agree with most other posters. I've done a lot of conversions but it was for vehicles that were never intended to have the chosen motor. A 5.3 in an S10 would be cool or even anything 72 and down. same could probably be said for the 350 in a Jeep, which is nothing new. A 5.3 in a full size pickup can be bought factory, regardless if it's a later body style or not. i would rebuild the 454 for some extra hp & tq. mpg isn't generally a consideration when wanting more performance anyway. i'm sure it could be done, but would be easier with a somewhat complete donor vehicle. sounds like a lot of work to go into a 73-87 truck, that probably won't fetch the money & time invested, when sold. if still twisted on the 5.3 good luck with it. i'm sure it won't be all that difficult. however, i would consider using it as a stepping stone to make a profit off of as is and buy something with more value to convert.
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Outside of the motor/transmission you need (off the top of my head): Motor mounts for the crossmember transmission mounts Fuel supply and return line (high pressure) new driveshaft Intank pump setup/sending unit high pressure pump headers/manifolds exhaust system computer ECM work (we charge $400) Wiring work (tons of hours if you are using the stock harness)
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What's wrong with the stock computer? It works in a Suburban, why wouldn't it work in a truck? |
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The stock computer depends on a great deal of other information being put in from other, non-engine related systems. It will throw error codes beyond belief if you do not have those systems hooked up, or if you don't have the ECM reprogrammed to ignore those systems.
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