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06-06-2005, 10:27 PM
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'71 chevy s.bed/s.side
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Chesapeake, VA
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Washed off the dust today.
Finally got the pics on here. I pulled the frame out and washed off the winter dust & cobwebs. Will prolly set the cab on next week. Can't wait to get started again!
  
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06-06-2005, 10:46 PM
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Got Light Emitting Diode?
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clean inline you got there
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06-06-2005, 10:57 PM
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Looks great! And A/C Too! Say, you mind telling me how you removed the cab without hurting it?
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06-07-2005, 09:44 AM
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Looks great. Lots of cleaing time went into that frame.
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06-07-2005, 09:51 AM
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Not may have the foresight to buck the V8/Auto trend and keep the in-line and 3 speed column shift tranny. Good for you. It'll pay dividends in the long run with ease-of-maintenance and trouble-free simplicity.
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Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter  Maybe I need to sell some of this crap  Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all |
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06-07-2005, 10:53 AM
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Excelsior, You Fathead.
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Looks nice. I wish I had that patience.
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06-07-2005, 11:22 AM
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Looks like all you need is a bucket seat bolted down and your off!
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06-07-2005, 12:03 PM
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take lots of pics of the cab install! That sure looks good!
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06-07-2005, 02:50 PM
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Very nice looking frame.
  
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06-07-2005, 02:58 PM
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Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires
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Very very nice!
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06-07-2005, 06:44 PM
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Nice!
I am adding AC and PS to my 292, can you post some close up pictures of your pulleys and belt routing? I am having a hard time figuring out how it is supposed to be setup. |
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06-07-2005, 09:24 PM
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Looks like an assembly-line picture,except for the grass.
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06-07-2005, 11:17 PM
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Ease of maintenance & trouble free simplicity my arse. While I loved my 6cyl/3spd & I'm a huge column shift fanatic, the column shifter linkage & that trans leave much to be desired. How does one fix that? Swap in another 3spd column & then another trans. A few months later.... that 'new' shift linkage keeps hanging up in gear (so much that it killed the clutch). You're finally fed up enough to cut a hole in the floor of your cab & stick in a floor shifter . . ..... only then to have the tranny start crapping out on you! The simple, low maint fix? Swap a tried & true sbc w/a turbo 350 trans.
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06-08-2005, 06:51 AM
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I used to have the "lock up" problem too until an old guy showed me how to shift it properly. If you use a slow deliberate motion without ramming and jamming, that old linkage will give you years of trouble free operation. It's when you force things or try and "speed shift" that you run into problems. Like a lot of things, there is a right way and wrong way to do things. This system has outlived its usefulness in todays society due to driving conditions and a lack of patience in general. However, if maintained and used as intended, it is a simple and trouble free setup. I suspect the majority of problems with this setup can be directly attributed to the impatient and untrained "nut" behind the wheel.
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Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all |
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06-08-2005, 09:38 AM
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 And I mean this in the nicest way. Your not the only one that's been around these trucks for any length of time. I don't 'speed shift'. I use(d) slow, deliberate movements from gear to gear. As you stated, if you force the shift, it will most likely hang up. I'm also not an impatient nut (not that you were calling me one). I've set up several of these column shift trucks that worked . . ..... for a while. Then the problems would start again requiring more adjustments. So I feel confident I can set one of these up adequately. I even ask questions in order to learn more & help identify some things I possibly missed. You may love the 3spd columns as much or more than me, but for the average joe, the column shift auto has fewer issues w/day to day reliability . . ..... abused or not.
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06-08-2005, 10:13 AM
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Before this degenerates into a pissing match, I agree a column shift automatic linkage is more trouble free. Its the same principle as electronics being more reliable than mechanics over time, because of less moving parts, except in the comparision to auto to manual column linkage the parts move less.
And you're correct they are not for the "average Joe", but then again who wants to be average? I suspect that is the whole point of this truck in question, not to be a "me too" vehicle. I was referring to the engine/drivetrain, not the mechanism used to shift said tranny, so your point is valid and true when taken in the context you placed it. However to get back to my point, that engine/tranny (sans linkage) is damn close to bullet proof if used for the application it was intended. Easy to work on, less complicated. Period. FYI, I must be just lucky as once I got the feel for the 3 speed on the column, I've had zero problems. But then again, I don't use them on a daily basis either, and where I live you can afford the ease it between gears because noone is driving up your back in a Lexus or BMW SUV.  I'd like to see more pics from the owner and his/her plans for the build.
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Currently on or near the homestead: 67 Chevy SWB 2WD stepside 350/3 on tree (Pat's) 67 GMC SWB 2WD Fleet 402/auto (Brian's under construction) 67 Chevy 3/4 ton 2WD 402/auto (Business Hauler) 67 Chevy 1 ton dually 2WD 396/4 speed (Former business hauler, Needs TLC) 68 Chevy 1/2 ton Suburban 2WD 250 six/3 on tree (Brian's Needs TLC) 70 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD 350/4 speed (Pat's - Disguised as a 68 GMC) 71 Chevy SWB stepside (Crushed by tree - parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD (Parts donor) 72 Chevy 3/4 ton 4WD Suburban (Parts Donor) 72 GMC 3/4 ton 4WD 292 six/4 speed (Mine - Disguised as a 67 GMC) 81 GMC 4WD Dually Dump Body 350/4 speed (Business Hauler) 82 Camaro Z/28 355/Super T-10 (Pat's toy) 93 Caprice 9C1 (Brian's Cop Car) 02 Toyota Camry (Reliable but a souless steel and plastic hulk) 2011 2SS RS Camaro M6 Factory Hurst Shifter Maybe I need to sell some of this crap Yet another Bozo with a sawz-all Last edited by CPNE; 06-08-2005 at 10:15 AM. |
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06-08-2005, 05:11 PM
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Agreed w/no pissing match intended, that's why I indicated the "BS in the nicest way". I respect (and admire) your position on the benefits of originality.
I too had very few problems for years of daily driving. But once the linkage got to a certain point, it became a PITA. It didn't matter how many times I adjusted everything back to a neutral position, it would eventually hang up (usually in 3rd causing clutch wear trying to get it home). Sometimes you could work it out of gear, sometimes not. That usually indicated the trans was wearing. I did like the 6 bangers in both my trucks. They both served me well throughout the years. But, the 6cyl works better w/a manual tranny IMO as an automatic takes to much power to use vs a manual. Since I wound up having to cut a hole in my floor for the 3spd, I seriously contemplated switching to a 5 or 6spd manual & keeping the 6, but I found a 350/350 combo for way less than what the OD trans would have cost.
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06-08-2005, 10:00 PM
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'71 chevy s.bed/s.side
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cab removal.
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06-08-2005, 10:18 PM
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'71 chevy s.bed/s.side
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Some have asked about the a/c pics.
       
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06-08-2005, 10:31 PM
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Thanks for the pictures, they are invaluable to me at this point.
What is the AC compressor bracket from? Is your altenator pulley 1 or 2 groove, I have a 3 groove balancer but I probably am going to have a hard time finding a 3 groove water pump pulley no that it looks like I need one. 
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06-12-2005, 10:20 PM
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'71 chevy s.bed/s.side
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More cab install pics
Well, I finally got the cab on the frame Saturday. Had to do it with two (my son and I)... wasn't too bad. In response to CPNE, I plan on going back with as close to original as possible, except for the a/c, p/s & p/b. I will go back with the column shift.
For GeeEmm, the compressor brackets are from a late "70's van...I believe. Everything bolted up ok, just had modify that long support bracket from the compressor down to the front corner of the block. Pulleys are from the same. The project has come to a stop over the past several months but this board has reignited the spark to get my butt in gear and start back on it. I enjoy surfing the site every day.    
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06-12-2005, 10:27 PM
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Looks good. Do you know about the special air cleaner needed for 6's with PB?
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06-12-2005, 10:29 PM
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'71 chevy s.bed/s.side
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No! Do you know something that I don't know? What's the scoop?
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06-12-2005, 10:37 PM
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I just love original ginny trucks. Very very nice work.
Mark
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06-12-2005, 10:38 PM
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It is called an overslung air cleaner. Its like this to clear the brake booster. I figure I had better mention just in case you need to start looking for one. They aren't all that common and if you do find one it could be $$$$
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