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shelby987 · 06-14-2005, 10:03 AM

If someone can explain to me the reasoning in this ebay listing, it would be appreciated. I am new to these trucks, so I may be completly in the wrong, but the seller states that the axles were 'swapped' on this 3/4ton 4x4 for the 6 lug versions to save on the purchase of wheels.....

Am I the only one who thinks this person is either full of

or has no idea what he is talking about....and only has a 1/2 ton on his hands with possibly a c/20 cab swap??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

Brewski* · 06-14-2005, 10:14 AM

VIN Would be KE25 if it was originaly a 3/4 ton 4x4.

Chevrolet : Other Pickups C20
1971 4x4 GMC Chevrolet Ford Dodge ???????

He has not a clue what it really is? Calls it a GMC but has Chevy Grill???\
72 Door Panels? Smokin' CRACK~!!!!!!

rambler · 06-14-2005, 11:32 AM

he states has the orginal proteco plate,, someone should ask for a pic of that... nice looking, but definelty not what he says...

*screamin_c102* · 06-14-2005, 11:42 AM

Another used car lot slingin' pieced together trucks, and then "selling them for a friend"

This guy has a rating of 2, The owner of the truck (his friend) was too lazy or inept to fire up his own Ebay account? If the seller had a 500 with 99.9% positive then it would be beneficial for the "friend" to ask him to sell it, but a 2, I wouldn't buy a hubcap from him.

The truck is not as stated and he will probably fall back on the "friends" description and claim no liability for the errors in his description.

This seems to becoming pretty common on Fleabay

smokekiki · 06-14-2005, 01:04 PM

30K invested,and it has big lift blocks on the rear with homemade "traction"bars to controll the axel wrap,instead of putting on springs.

cdowns · 06-14-2005, 01:46 PM

jusr another guy who took a course at a community college in creative writing

tomatocity · 06-14-2005, 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rambler

he states has the orginal proteco plate,, someone should ask for a pic of that... nice looking, but definelty not what he says...

Also get a pic of the frame VIN.

67ChevyRedneck · 06-14-2005, 02:00 PM

Hmmmm, the frame was powdercoated? If it was a "show truck" with a "powdercoated frame", why is there so much rust on the frame? Whats the deal with the inside of the bed? No show truck would have a bed like that. It's an awesome truck, I'd buy it for the right price, but like the other's have said, some of these evilbay descriptions are complete and utter

68haywagon · 06-14-2005, 02:30 PM

No show truck should be lifted with blocks like that. First thing I would do is get new springs and ditch them blocks.

Mike

shelby987 · 06-14-2005, 03:26 PM

Correct me if I am wrong, but should a vehicle with only 1,000 miles on a "frame off restoration" really be "showing its age" ????

Good call on the spring blocks smokekiki......they look a little uncalled for to me....with the rear that much higher with an already lifted truck, i would think this truck would be really....REALLY tail happy!

Just out of curiousity....a pole for those of you following the thread (and a little p.o. by the constant bs on fleabay). Did the owner
a.) actually spend 30k at a shop that took him for $15-20k too much
b.) got taken for WAY to much on parts
c.) paid approximately $10k for lift blocks and fair price for everything else
d.) found a really nice truck under a farmers tree, and slapped as much stuff under and on the truck to sell it on ebay to someone who believes its worth 30k?

67ChevyRedneck · 06-14-2005, 03:54 PM

I think you'd be surprised. I believe that it's possible. I probably have 5K in my truck with just the motor/tranny/front suspension rebuild/radiator/and various other parts. It's in primer that I did myself and it has junkyard white spoke rims on it. Bodywork and paint jobs are real expensive in my opinion, so, yeah, 30K is possible, but it sure does show an awful lot of wear and tear for a "show truck." Like I said before though, for the right price (probably around 8-9K) I'd buy it if I could afford it.

pissonNOS · 06-14-2005, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shelby987

Correct me if I am wrong, but should a vehicle with only 1,000 miles on a "frame off restoration" really be "showing its age" ????

The Restoration was done about 5 years ago and is starting to show some age. It will need to be re-detailed and spiffed up again to bring it back to the show specs it once had. The paint is a Show Paint Job, but because of age it has a couple of areas that are starting to check. Nothing that I would worry about. However, if you wanted it to be that Perfect Show paint that it once was, it wouldn't take much to get it there
if it was done five years ago it doesnt take long for things to start showing wear specially if thye sit out side

GMC AMI · 06-15-2005, 06:19 AM

[QUOTE=Brewski*]VIN Would be KE25 if it was originaly a 3/4 ton 4x4.

Chevrolet : Other Pickups C20
1971 4x4 GMC Chevrolet Ford Dodge ???????

They list that way to show up on search page. Do a search on Ford and this will show up even if it is a Chevy Or GMC.

96blazr · 06-15-2005, 06:32 AM

The reason he doesn't know a damn thing about this truck is cause he's a DEALER!!! By the looks of things, he's real small time Used car dealer in Virginia.
I'm guessing he bought the thing and he's only going by what the PO told him, which by the looks of things was all BS.

**special-K** · 06-17-2005, 08:23 AM

A BSer BSing a BSer,gotta love it!Back to the original question.There are conversions to put 5 or 6 lug hubs on heavier 8 lug axles to save from changing wheels.Which I think is stupid,because if you`re spending all it costs to install 1t axles on a Jeep or something,then the cost of wheels is nothing and you`re comprimising the added tuffness you were looking for in the first place.But,on this truck,it has 1/2t axles.12 bolt rears are 1/2t and 1/2t only.They may have converted a 3/4t Dana44 to 6 lug,but it`s probably the 1/2t Dana44 that goes with the rest of the drivetrain.Either way,it`s a 1/2t.It sure is lame to put Ford in your heading as if someone going to Fords is actually gonna wanna see a Chevy sittin`there,hard-up,if you ask me.I think it`s a nice truck,had alot put into it,and is worth about what was put into the motor +/-.I also think it`s ignorance more than BS.The traction bars are a nice touch and would eliminate axle-wrap.Blocks aren`t evil,springs are nicer.But,the comment,what are they doing on a show truck,Why not?There are lots of things on show vehicles that are done just to get the "look".He saved enough money to install a serpentine set-up with March pulleys and has done alot of other nice things.In fact,I think it`s probably nicer than what most of the critics own.Just say no to jumpin`on the bandwagon.

**special-K** · 06-17-2005, 08:37 AM

Also,looks like this show truck gets driven.Does that answer some of the other questions?It does for me.

**JIMs70GMC** · 06-17-2005, 10:24 AM

C. and I have some of those $10K blocks if anybodys interested, 2s or 4s.

06-14-2005, 10:03 AM	#1
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Am I wrong in assuming? If someone can explain to me the reasoning in this ebay listing, it would be appreciated. I am new to these trucks, so I may be completly in the wrong, but the seller states that the axles were 'swapped' on this 3/4ton 4x4 for the 6 lug versions to save on the purchase of wheels..... Am I the only one who thinks this person is either full of or has no idea what he is talking about....and only has a 1/2 ton on his hands with possibly a c/20 cab swap?? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...spagename=WDVW

06-14-2005, 10:14 AM	#2
Brewski* Registered User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Rocky Mount, MO Posts: 1,293	VIN Would be KE25 if it was originaly a 3/4 ton 4x4. Chevrolet : Other Pickups C20 1971 4x4 GMC Chevrolet Ford Dodge ??????? He has not a clue what it really is? Calls it a GMC but has Chevy Grill???\ 72 Door Panels? Smokin' CRACK~!!!!!! Last edited by Brewski; 06-14-2005 at 10:14 AM.*

06-14-2005, 11:32 AM	#3
rambler MOVE OVER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Warrensburg, MO Posts: 5,470	he states has the orginal proteco plate,, someone should ask for a pic of that... nice looking, but definelty not what he says... __________________ No matter where you are..... There you are... Buckaroo Banzi

06-14-2005, 11:42 AM	#4
screamin_c102 Account Suspended Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Yoncalla Oregon Posts: 775	Another used car lot slingin' pieced together trucks, and then "selling them for a friend" This guy has a rating of 2, The owner of the truck (his friend) was too lazy or inept to fire up his own Ebay account? If the seller had a 500 with 99.9% positive then it would be beneficial for the "friend" to ask him to sell it, but a 2, I wouldn't buy a hubcap from him. The truck is not as stated and he will probably fall back on the "friends" description and claim no liability for the errors in his description. This seems to becoming pretty common on Fleabay Last edited by screamin_c102; 06-14-2005 at 11:44 AM.

06-14-2005, 01:04 PM	#5
smokekiki Mike Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: west chester pa Posts: 2,474	30K invested,and it has big lift blocks on the rear with homemade "traction"bars to controll the axel wrap,instead of putting on springs. __________________ 70'c/10, 71 suburban4x4 402bb, 72suburban 4/6 drop, 72k/5 4x4 blazer 4" lift 35 tires

06-14-2005, 01:46 PM	#6
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	jusr another guy who took a course at a community college in creative writing __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

06-14-2005, 02:00 PM	#8
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	Hmmmm, the frame was powdercoated? If it was a "show truck" with a "powdercoated frame", why is there so much rust on the frame? Whats the deal with the inside of the bed? No show truck would have a bed like that. It's an awesome truck, I'd buy it for the right price, but like the other's have said, some of these evilbay descriptions are complete and utter __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

06-14-2005, 02:30 PM	#9
68haywagon I'm watching you! Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Levittown, PA Posts: 1,822	No show truck should be lifted with blocks like that. First thing I would do is get new springs and ditch them blocks. Mike __________________ 2012 Chevrolet Silverado 1500 Z71 4WD 1993 Chevrolet C-1500 W/T - Blue - 4.3L V-6, 4 speed auto - Dad's (RIP) 1992 Chevrolet S10 - LS swap project 1968 Chevrolet C-10 longbed fleetside - sold

06-14-2005, 03:26 PM	#10
shelby987 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Just outside Durham, NC Posts: 894	Correct me if I am wrong, but should a vehicle with only 1,000 miles on a "frame off restoration" really be "showing its age" ???? Good call on the spring blocks smokekiki......they look a little uncalled for to me....with the rear that much higher with an already lifted truck, i would think this truck would be really....REALLY tail happy! Just out of curiousity....a pole for those of you following the thread (and a little p.o. by the constant bs on fleabay). Did the owner a.) actually spend 30k at a shop that took him for $15-20k too much b.) got taken for WAY to much on parts c.) paid approximately $10k for lift blocks and fair price for everything else d.) found a really nice truck under a farmers tree, and slapped as much stuff under and on the truck to sell it on ebay to someone who believes its worth 30k?

06-14-2005, 03:54 PM	#11
67ChevyRedneck Hittin E-Z Street on Mud Tires Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Greenville, SC Posts: 23,090	I think you'd be surprised. I believe that it's possible. I probably have 5K in my truck with just the motor/tranny/front suspension rebuild/radiator/and various other parts. It's in primer that I did myself and it has junkyard white spoke rims on it. Bodywork and paint jobs are real expensive in my opinion, so, yeah, 30K is possible, but it sure does show an awful lot of wear and tear for a "show truck." Like I said before though, for the right price (probably around 8-9K) I'd buy it if I could afford it. __________________ Jesse James 1967 C10 SWB Stepside: 350/700R4/3.73 1965 Ford Mustang: 289/T5-5spd/3.25 Trac-Loc 1968 Pontiac Firebird: Project Fire Chicken! 2015 Silverado Double Cab 5.3L Z71 2001 Jeep Wrangler Sport 4.0L 5spd 2020 Chevrolet Equinox Premium 2.0L Turbo 2011 Mustang V6 ~ Wife's ride American Born, Country by the Grace of God 1967 CST Shop Truck Rebuild! My 1967 C-10 Build Thread My Vintage Air A/C Install Project "On a Dime" Trying my hand at Home Renovation! 1965 Mustang Modifications!

06-15-2005, 06:19 AM	#13
GMC AMI Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: The Other Maine! Posts: 2,236	[QUOTE=Brewski*]VIN Would be KE25 if it was originaly a 3/4 ton 4x4. Chevrolet : Other Pickups C20 1971 4x4 GMC Chevrolet Ford Dodge ??????? They list that way to show up on search page. Do a search on Ford and this will show up even if it is a Chevy Or GMC. __________________ 1968 Chevy 4x4 307 4 speed

06-15-2005, 06:32 AM	#14
96blazr Registered User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: VA Posts: 740	The reason he doesn't know a damn thing about this truck is cause he's a DEALER!!! By the looks of things, he's real small time Used car dealer in Virginia. I'm guessing he bought the thing and he's only going by what the PO told him, which by the looks of things was all BS. __________________ 1968 SWB. GMPP 350/350 Turbo Trans, Edelbrock Performer & Carb. Hedman Hedders, Hooker Aerochambers Mufflers. Tuff Stuff Alternators. Remember, no matter where you go, There you are. Gary

06-17-2005, 08:23 AM	#15
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	A BSer BSing a BSer,gotta love it!Back to the original question.There are conversions to put 5 or 6 lug hubs on heavier 8 lug axles to save from changing wheels.Which I think is stupid,because if you`re spending all it costs to install 1t axles on a Jeep or something,then the cost of wheels is nothing and you`re comprimising the added tuffness you were looking for in the first place.But,on this truck,it has 1/2t axles.12 bolt rears are 1/2t and 1/2t only.They may have converted a 3/4t Dana44 to 6 lug,but it`s probably the 1/2t Dana44 that goes with the rest of the drivetrain.Either way,it`s a 1/2t.It sure is lame to put Ford in your heading as if someone going to Fords is actually gonna wanna see a Chevy sittin`there,hard-up,if you ask me.I think it`s a nice truck,had alot put into it,and is worth about what was put into the motor +/-.I also think it`s ignorance more than BS.The traction bars are a nice touch and would eliminate axle-wrap.Blocks aren`t evil,springs are nicer.But,the comment,what are they doing on a show truck,Why not?There are lots of things on show vehicles that are done just to get the "look".He saved enough money to install a serpentine set-up with March pulleys and has done alot of other nice things.In fact,I think it`s probably nicer than what most of the critics own.Just say no to jumpin`on the bandwagon. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 06-17-2005 at 08:35 AM. Reason: Added Thought

06-17-2005, 08:37 AM	#16
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Also,looks like this show truck gets driven.Does that answer some of the other questions?It does for me. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

06-17-2005, 10:24 AM	#17
JIMs70GMC user # 2756 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chesapeake, Virginia Posts: 4,612	C. and I have some of those $10K blocks if anybodys interested, 2s or 4s. __________________ 1970 K25, 8' stepside bed 350/465/205 44 up front, 60 in the rear 4.10s rolling on 33" Dunlop MTs 1986 K5, 350/465/208 Dana 60/14 bolt from a cucv 36" Super Swampers TSL/SX 1983 K20 w/ CUCV axles, 350/700R4/208 sitting on 37" Goodyears 1986 M1031 6.2 diesel, TH400/NP205 locker in the rear and a LS in the front, all stock for now..... 1986 K30, 350/400/205 dana 60 and 14 bolt. I kept the drivetrain. Body/bad and chassis are gone. 1981 K30, 350/465/205 dana 60 and dually 14 bolt. Has a G80, and a flat bed. Going to replace the flat bed. 1985 K20, 350/400/208 10 bolt and SF 14 bolt. I wonder where I can find some 1 tons. Hmmmmm



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