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Old 02-27-2006, 01:06 AM   #1
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Thumbs up Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

Ok, here is a can of worms. You will have to forgive me for give a link to a m*p@r site, parden my french but my uncle showed me this i just thought it was interesting. It is a very long post but worth the read. Thin some rustoleum, roll it on, wet sand and wax. scroll down to 69chargeryeehaa post, it is his crazy idea. http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/...0&fpart=1&vc=1
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Old 02-27-2006, 01:31 AM   #2
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

Interesting...........would like to see some input from some of the other members that actually do some professional painting to see if this is really feasible........
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Old 02-27-2006, 01:37 AM   #3
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

not for me. i plan on spraying some john deere blitz black (satin black). i just thought it was interesting and wanted to share it.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:08 AM   #4
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

No doubt its possible, but it will always look like a cheap paint job. Maybe something you would paint a swing set or garden equipment with. As far as his "mirror" finish goes.......well.....some gloss but no mirror finish. However his method may be a cheap quick alternative to painting a vehicle, good enough for a lot of peoples cars/trucks but not for me.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:19 AM   #5
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

theres a guy from my hometown in Pennsylvania that changes the color of his cars this way once/twice a year. they are 20/20 (20ft/20mph) cars but its all he can afford.
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:32 AM   #6
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

Now that`s cheezy!
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Old 02-27-2006, 09:58 AM   #7
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My neighbor used to do it....he says on a nice hot day it smooths right out and gives a nice shine. The last one he did was an old 2 tone burb...the new owner loved the custom paint job

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Old 02-27-2006, 10:14 AM   #8
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

it's a very doable thing have seen many done in similar methods(done a few myself) why a $thousands$$$ paint job on a hundred dollar car????
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:38 AM   #9
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

eh....that prolly looks like crap in person..ill be spray'n my truck.
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Old 02-27-2006, 10:42 AM   #10
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cdowns, I agree completely. But the opposite is also true. His mopar is worth less with that cheap paint. Unless of course it was a rust/bondo bucket before he rolled on the rust paint.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:01 AM   #11
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

Paint sprayed costs the same as paint brushed or rolled per gallon.Just rent a sprayer.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:36 AM   #12
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

Beater69 why not roll on your blits black?

This is my plan. I read a thread on Stovebolt.com, which I have since lost, about brush painting tractor paint on a pickup. They did a 47 Chevy 1st series in JD green and gloss black. It was for farm use, so they didn't do all the prep, but it looked amazing. Same self leveling as the paint mentioned in the mopar thread.

I'm want to keep my pickup gloss white, so I won't have any problem finding tractor paint. I plan to paint it with the windows in it, but will probably remove the front fenders and do the grill (1967) and fenders seperately. This truck is a work truck, and will need to be ready to take a load of yard debri to the dump, but I still want it to look nice. Doesn't need to be a show truck.
Thanks for sharing this. I will catalog the info for the future. For now I have rockers, cab corners, and some other rust to take care of.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:54 AM   #13
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

If I had a place closer to where I live to do the rolling thing I would consider it. Plus I'm looking for that "special" look with the blitz black and if I roll it I might lose some of that. But I think that this process is so doable it is hilarious. I mean all the pictures I've seen look really exceptable. There was even another guy on that thread that tried it out and had good success. If you do a good job wet sanding your going to get out most of the imperfections. You just have to keep in mind that this is not to replace a $3000 paint job. This a $100 paint job. By the way I was in home depot the other day and they have Rustolem(tremclad) by the gallon, in several colors and can tint it too.
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Old 02-27-2006, 11:57 AM   #14
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it's a very doable thing have seen many done in similar methods(done a few myself) why a $thousands$$$ paint job on a hundred dollar car????
Exactly, I haven't tried the roller method myself, but I had an '86 toyota worth about $400 bucks. I bought some new rust free fenders, cut out the rusty rockers, rivvetted in some roofin tin, glassed it over, with a spray can paint job with spray can clear over that. It was my "winter beater" for 4 years. It two-toned it and actually got a few compliments on it I'll posts some pics if I can find them (they need to be scanned in).
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Old 02-27-2006, 12:35 PM   #15
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

About four or five years ago now, my Pawpaw decided to "repaint" his 71 C10 lwb fleetside. I kid you not, he took the time to trim out with a brush then with a tray and roller, he proceded to paint the truck. He used a Rustoleum, when only the best will do, turquoise greenish color on the body and insid the bed. He followed up with Rustoleum white on the roof. It still looks amazingly..."decent" for the minimal investment. I can't wait to get ahold of it and strip it down to the bare metal and do an original restoration.
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

ebfabman. the paint in the mopar thread may not be a mirror finish, but I have seen orange peel rough enough to qualify as golf ball surface from a professional high dollar spray on paint job. Take a look next time you are at a big car show. Super Chevy, Carlile or the like. People who spent $7k+ on a paint job, and have less quality than the "gloss but not mirror" finish that this guy is has.

This is the kind of paint that Implement companies use because it doesn't oxidize as fast as laquer paint and isn't as delicate as base clear. And who can beat the rust fighting action.

I'm not handy enough yet with a spray gun, but would spray this paint on if I were. Till then, brush and roller will do fine for me.
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Old 02-27-2006, 12:51 PM   #17
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Paint sprayed costs the same as paint brushed or rolled per gallon.Just rent a sprayer.
please list places where a sprayer can be rented for the price of a roller and brushes// i'm sure people on a very low budget would prefer to spray thier paint on since after all it's the same cost!!!!
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Old 02-27-2006, 01:17 PM   #18
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

Sometimes I buy rustoleum by gallon, it's great suff. BUT, it's not so good in the sun. It WILL fade AND it WILL get kinda chaulky - UV destroys it. I've rolled it (never on a car), and I've sprayed it. I use it mustly on my snow plow equipment. We paint most of the equipment (plows, salt spreaders, etc.) every year, after it's been sitting in the sun all summer.

It does spray very well, and rolls OK, spraying is MUCH better as it is way easier and comes out nicer.

The most important things I can add though are these:
1. Rutso contains fish oil - auto paints don't get along with it very well.
2. Use Acetone - NOT mineral spirits, you can put as much as you want in it.
3. Rustoleum's competition brands aren't as good. Like what our TrueValue store has. Stay away from them and get the rusto for these projects.
4. Cheap real single stage auto is NOT much more money - Get the real stuff, and spray it. I wouldn't paint and vehicle with it (rusto) unless you don't think anyone will ever want to put a decent paint job on it. You'll be glad you did.

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Old 02-27-2006, 02:01 PM   #19
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

I think I'm gonna try the flat black on my 77 and see how it turns out If it works good, I might consider painting my 80 with it too...

I can attest to Tremclad's unbelievable ability to stick to anything. We've got an old stove that sat outside for 30 years, that we gave a quick sanding job to, then painted with a brush. The stuff smoothed right out, and 9 years later, that stove looks like the day we painted it.
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rust-oleum hasn't contained fishoils in over 30years
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ebfabman. the paint in the mopar thread may not be a mirror finish, but I have seen orange peel rough enough to qualify as golf ball surface from a professional high dollar spray on paint job. Take a look next time you are at a big car show. Super Chevy, Carlile or the like. People who spent $7k+ on a paint job, and have less quality than the "gloss but not mirror" finish that this guy is has.

This is the kind of paint that Implement companies use because it doesn't oxidize as fast as laquer paint and isn't as delicate as base clear. And who can beat the rust fighting action.

I'm not handy enough yet with a spray gun, but would spray this paint on if I were. Till then, brush and roller will do fine for me.

Again, I agree if it works for you. Lacquer is not used much on vehicles and hasn't been used for many years and today's base clears are not delicate. Pricey yes. The problem is claiming rust paint has been buffed and polished and now has a mirror finish is like claiming an old truck has "absolutely no rust". I guess if it looks like a mirror to you than it has a mirror finish. To see that rolled on paint in person will look no where near what the guy calls a mirror finish. I've seen a few myself and as I said before it looks like a cheap paint job at best. But thats what it is, right? Even in his pictures it looks just so so. But if it works for your project then I say......

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Old 02-27-2006, 09:59 PM   #22
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What a sad day in auto refinishing. It sounds like more work than just spraying the paint. If it is going to be a daily driver and you spray it right most of the time get away with not color sanding and buffing. Maybe just nib out some of the big trash. At work we have two locker cabinets that have been painted by rolling the paint on they look okay. They have alot of texture and some roller hair in them. Maybe being a painter makes me to pickey, but I would stay away.
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Re: Paint Your Truck With A Roller!!!

I had a friend in Highschool who painted an old F-150 with a roller and tractor paint, looked like complete $hit up close. Looked ok from about 500 feet away but the paint was already faded pretty seriously within a couple of year and it was no where near mirror finish although it wasn't super rough. If you want a cheap paint job that will look cheap do it. If you would like your truck to look presentable get a decent spray job.
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i have been a house and comercial painter for years. i had a old Datsun pu that was given to me as a bonus by a old employer in fl. i sprayed it with gloss white rustolem to clean it up a bit from the overspray and paint sloped on it from being a paint truck for years. i preped it decently and sprayed it in the yard. it looked good for what it was. but not somthing you want to do to a truck you put a bucket of money and time in.i used it because i could just touch it up with a spray bomb just to keep it respectable looking while working in expensive gated comuinitys
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:03 AM   #25
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At work we have two locker cabinets that have been painted by rolling the paint on they look okay. They have alot of texture and some roller hair in them. Maybe being a painter makes me to pickey, but I would stay away.
I think thats why he uses the foam rollers..no roller nap coming loose like with regular rollers.

My truck finish looks like....well-35 YO paint. My hood is mostly black primer or undercoating. For a truck like mine that will be driven off road and thru the trees, this sounds like a good idea. First hunting trip it will have the mountain tree pinstriping anyway. Mine is a low optioned truck that I have no intention of making a showpiece out of anyway. So I think I'll give it a try. If I do I'll post progress pics.
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