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corn · 05-03-2006, 12:06 AM

why the second to the rear cross brace on these frames are all crooked? Am I the only one that it drives totally crazy? I think it must be time for me to finally get the box back on my truck...

qksilver · 05-03-2006, 12:20 AM

I can't............

shifty · 05-03-2006, 09:37 AM

i have no idea, but it confused me as well. curious to the answer

**John Fabris** · 05-03-2006, 09:53 AM

I have always wondered that as well. It is the same on 66 earlier, and I used it as a source to play a joke on my buddy with his 63 GMC, telling him to look at the crossmember, "Dude, look, it is not straight anymore, this thing got hit hard at one time and your frame is junk!" He was quiet for about half-hour before he figured out that I was joking...

crazy longhorn · 05-03-2006, 10:25 AM

The same crosseyed guy put that brace in every truck down the line!

Honestly, I think it has to do with push/pull on the rear of the frame from the track bar, & the angle on the crossmember helps to stiffen the frame in that area? Just a guess tho.....

L

72armyswbtruck · 05-03-2006, 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Fabris

I have always wondered that as well. It is the same on 66 earlier, and I used it as a source to play a joke on my buddy with his 63 GMC, telling him to look at the crossmember, "Dude, look, it is not straight anymore, this thing got hit hard at one time and your frame is junk!" He was quiet for about half-hour before he figured out that I was joking...

:LOL:

mbgmike · 05-03-2006, 08:36 PM

Their Crooked???????

corn · 05-03-2006, 09:15 PM

I can see where an angled brace could help with cross flex but that brace isnt really at that much of an angle. I sure looks bad with a box off though. Glad Im not the only one that it bothers. Thanks guys...

chevydog66 · 05-03-2006, 10:07 PM

Mine is straight!! Just kidding, I haven't even looked.

71SWBChevy · 05-03-2006, 10:13 PM

umm the one on my truck is straight to.

thejoker · 05-04-2006, 11:36 AM

I cut mine off. I figured if it's crooked it must not do anything, so I cut it off and threw it away!

JKR

**special-K** · 05-04-2006, 11:50 AM

Which one?Are they supposed to be square w/frame?

**John Fabris** · 05-04-2006, 01:32 PM

Anyone have a good picture of the rear section of the frame, an overhead shot would be best, and that would help everyone see what we are talking about.

71SWBChevy · 05-04-2006, 02:17 PM

I can get an overhead picture of my frame but mine is straight! My truck has rear leafs though you think that might have something to do with why mine is straight?

rauto13 · 05-04-2006, 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71SWBChevy

I can get an overhead picture of my frame but mine is straight! My truck has rear leafs though you think that might have something to do with why mine is straight?

nope, yours is straight because Dude, your truck got hit hard at one time and your frame is junk!

j/k

68 50th · 05-04-2006, 03:20 PM

A pic of my 71 3/4 ton.

68 50th · 05-04-2006, 03:22 PM

From the 72 Truck Service Manual.

71SWBChevy · 05-04-2006, 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68 50th

A pic of my 71 3/4 ton.

Well I be damned, I am almost positive mine is straight, I think I would have noticed it being that crooked, but that is a leaf truck also. What is the hole for just a little in front of the cross member? Seems if it were mounted in that hole it would be straight!

68 50th · 05-04-2006, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71SWBChevy

What is the hole for just a little in front of the cross member? Seems if it were mounted in that hole it would be straight!

I was thinkin about that too but the way it is attached to the left side framerail with several rivets, it won't be possible to swivel it to fit to the front hole.

Blazer1970 · 05-04-2006, 07:28 PM

From an engineering perspective, that would be to keep the two long frame rails from being able to move parallel to each other. The frame assembly is much stiffer with that one cross brace on an angle than it would be with all of them perpendicular to the long rails.

dwcsr · 05-04-2006, 07:44 PM

Clearence for the panhard bar when the truck is overloaded and squating or in Texas loaded just about right.

corn · 05-04-2006, 11:58 PM

Will it hurt anything if mine goes to the scrap pile? Mine is leaf sprung as well. It sure would make installing 3" tailpipes easier too...

shifty · 05-05-2006, 09:32 AM

i have an overhead shot or five. here are a couple of photos - first, here's a link to a large photo from my tank install (sorry, it's big!)

1969k10stepside · 05-05-2006, 09:37 AM

I have a pic of my 71 1/2.I dont want to mess with resizing,ect.if someone
gives me their email and are willing to post it i will send it to them.

crazy longhorn · 05-05-2006, 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cornfed63

Will it hurt anything if mine goes to the scrap pile? Mine is leaf sprung as well. It sure would make installing 3" tailpipes easier too...

My guess is that it wont hurt if the crossmember is "missing in action" on a leaf spring truck(just a guess tho

) . My longhorn does not have the crossmember that you guys show on the other 2wd trucks......nothing has fallen off the old beyoch, so its probably not needed

L

05-03-2006, 12:06 AM	#1
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	can someone explain to me why the second to the rear cross brace on these frames are all crooked? Am I the only one that it drives totally crazy? I think it must be time for me to finally get the box back on my truck...

05-03-2006, 12:20 AM	#2
qksilver Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Southern Pines NC Posts: 3,853	Re: can someone explain to me I can't............

05-03-2006, 09:37 AM	#3
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: can someone explain to me i have no idea, but it confused me as well. curious to the answer __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

05-03-2006, 09:53 AM	#4
John Fabris TOTY 2006 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Magalia CA USA Posts: 2,270	Re: can someone explain to me I have always wondered that as well. It is the same on 66 earlier, and I used it as a source to play a joke on my buddy with his 63 GMC, telling him to look at the crossmember, "Dude, look, it is not straight anymore, this thing got hit hard at one time and your frame is junk!" He was quiet for about half-hour before he figured out that I was joking... __________________ John Fabris 67 C10 SWB Last edited by John Fabris; 05-03-2006 at 12:52 PM.

05-03-2006, 10:25 AM	#5
crazy longhorn Fabricate till you "puke" Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Ill Posts: 9,403	Re: can someone explain to me The same crosseyed guy put that brace in every truck down the line! Honestly, I think it has to do with push/pull on the rear of the frame from the track bar, & the angle on the crossmember helps to stiffen the frame in that area? Just a guess tho..... L __________________ 69 longhorn,4" chop,3/5 drop, 1/2 ton suspension/disc brakes,1 1/2" body drop,steel tilt clip, 5.3/Edelbrock rpm intake/600 carb, Hooker streetrod shorties,2 1/2" exhaust/ H pipe/50's Flows , 6 spd Richmond trans,12 bolt/ 3.40 gears....

05-03-2006, 08:36 PM	#7
mbgmike Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pasadena,Tx /Pto Pta DR Posts: 5,415	Re: can someone explain to me Their Crooked???????

05-03-2006, 09:15 PM	#8
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	Re: can someone explain to me I can see where an angled brace could help with cross flex but that brace isnt really at that much of an angle. I sure looks bad with a box off though. Glad Im not the only one that it bothers. Thanks guys...

05-03-2006, 10:07 PM	#9
chevydog66 GM ONLY BABY!!! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Fort Wayne, IN. Posts: 1,998	Re: can someone explain to me Mine is straight!! Just kidding, I haven't even looked. __________________ 2 wrongs don't make a right, but 3 lefts do. 66 Chevelle Malibu 406ci, 573hp, 10.99@121mph 96 Chevy Silverado Z71 72 GMC 1500 Super Custom LS 6.0/4L65 on airride http://www.cardomain.com/ride/707879...mc-c-k-pick-up Last edited by chevydog66; 05-03-2006 at 10:15 PM.

05-03-2006, 10:13 PM	#10
71SWBChevy Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Owensboro KY Posts: 11,905	Re: can someone explain to me umm the one on my truck is straight to. __________________ Drew '71 Chevy 350/TH350 Hugger Orange Currently just a rolling frame, body work soon to follow!!! Check out my Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=212927 Daily Driver: 1997 Chevrolet S-10 with more gears than pistons

05-04-2006, 11:36 AM	#11
thejoker Registered User Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Gulfport Mississippi Posts: 364	Re: can someone explain to me I cut mine off. I figured if it's crooked it must not do anything, so I cut it off and threw it away! JKR __________________ **Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight....I ask that of all my prey** 68' C10 Short Step (rebuilding as we speak) 72' Custom Camper (wrecked, parting out) 79' C10 Fleet (rough, parting out) 97' C1500 Short Step Custom (DD) 97' Kawaski VN800a Customized 99' Z71 Silverado 04' Suzuki Volusia

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05-04-2006, 01:32 PM	#13
John Fabris TOTY 2006 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Magalia CA USA Posts: 2,270	Re: can someone explain to me Anyone have a good picture of the rear section of the frame, an overhead shot would be best, and that would help everyone see what we are talking about. __________________ John Fabris 67 C10 SWB

05-04-2006, 02:17 PM	#14
71SWBChevy Post Whore Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Owensboro KY Posts: 11,905	Re: can someone explain to me I can get an overhead picture of my frame but mine is straight! My truck has rear leafs though you think that might have something to do with why mine is straight? __________________ Drew '71 Chevy 350/TH350 Hugger Orange Currently just a rolling frame, body work soon to follow!!! Check out my Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=212927 Daily Driver: 1997 Chevrolet S-10 with more gears than pistons

05-04-2006, 03:20 PM	#16
68 50th Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 833	Re: can someone explain to me A pic of my 71 3/4 ton. Attached Images __________________ Mats.. ---------------------------------------------------- 1971 Cheyenne Super Custom Camper 475CBB/TH400/AC 1992 Silverado Sport Truck 1988 Silverado 2500 Ext Longbed 4x4 2001 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4 1990 Chevrolet K3500 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix 1980 Z 28 350/4-speed/AC/T-top 1980 Camaro Coupe V6/3-speed 1979 Buick Century Wagon

05-04-2006, 03:22 PM	#17
68 50th Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sweden Posts: 833	Re: can someone explain to me From the 72 Truck Service Manual. Attached Images __________________ Mats.. ---------------------------------------------------- 1971 Cheyenne Super Custom Camper 475CBB/TH400/AC 1992 Silverado Sport Truck 1988 Silverado 2500 Ext Longbed 4x4 2001 GMC Sierra SLT 4x4 1990 Chevrolet K3500 1965 Pontiac Grand Prix 1980 Z 28 350/4-speed/AC/T-top 1980 Camaro Coupe V6/3-speed 1979 Buick Century Wagon



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05-04-2006, 07:28 PM	#20
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,510	Re: can someone explain to me From an engineering perspective, that would be to keep the two long frame rails from being able to move parallel to each other. The frame assembly is much stiffer with that one cross brace on an angle than it would be with all of them perpendicular to the long rails. __________________ Tim

05-04-2006, 07:44 PM	#21
dwcsr Hollister Road Co. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Houston Posts: 6,134	Re: can someone explain to me Clearence for the panhard bar when the truck is overloaded and squating or in Texas loaded just about right.

05-04-2006, 11:58 PM	#22
corn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: here Posts: 5,789	Re: can someone explain to me Will it hurt anything if mine goes to the scrap pile? Mine is leaf sprung as well. It sure would make installing 3" tailpipes easier too...

05-05-2006, 09:32 AM	#23
shifty Questionable Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Atlanta Posts: 13,376	Re: can someone explain to me i have an overhead shot or five. here are a couple of photos - first, here's a link to a large photo from my tank install (sorry, it's big!) Attached Images __________________ If I've got anything up for grabs, it'll be here: 7-hole gauge cluster for a 67-72 p/u FREE (link) I can't check the forum daily. If I don't reply to you within 24 hours, drop me a PM! I'm (hopefully) still alive and will reply faster to a PM.

05-05-2006, 09:37 AM	#24
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,020	Re: can someone explain to me I have a pic of my 71 1/2.I dont want to mess with resizing,ect.if someone gives me their email and are willing to post it i will send it to them.

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