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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Claremore, OK
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Electrical: It shoulda been simple
Replaced the old turn signal swtich yesturday. it worked, just didnt cancel so I thought, what the hell. I did my homework reviewing threads too. How'd it go you ask?... #$% #$%& thang. The only modification I did was remove the little horn button and replace it with a small bolt as a PO did otherwise the horn stayed engaged(S10 type wheel).
Anyhow, I got the new switch in and the colume back together. Easy???...#$% #$%& thang. Neither the turn signal or hazards work and only work (staying solid, no blinking) if I step on the brake? plus, the switch wont cancel. Some of the wires were different colors but, I matched up what was the same and popped em in-in sequential order. Bad switch or did I do something wrong? ![]() ![]() |
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
the cancelling cam is that horn contact. maybe the new one doesn't have the cancelling bumps on it
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
I'm takin the steering wheel off and messin with it some more today. matt...I'll put the horn contact back in and see what i get worked out. Any other ideas or thought about it???
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
I'm interested in other's experience with this replacement. I've replaced the signal switch in a 71 chevelle and a 67 nova column, so I though it would be easy on this truck. I have just been too embarassed to tell everyone it didn't work as I had planned. I only get a cancel on the right signal, I here the left one click, but it doesn't cancel. I thought the whole experience was awful, and didn't want to tear everything apart again.
I bought my switch from Chevy Duty, and have the adapter to the old plug. Anyone else had problems.
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
Well, i found one problem...there is no canceling cam on my colume...
![]() ![]() i called Jim Carter's about the new one I got and they'll fax me a diagram for installin cause i didn't get one. I don't know that it should matter cause they're all matched up but, what the hell...I'll see what happens |
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
I didn't get the chance to get that wiring diagram but, I found one of wires popped right out. I went ahead and added a little solder to all of em and now I Have the signals working. My hazard still doesn't work though. If I engage it they light up solid when I hit the brake. When nothings turned on the right signal and parking lamp light up when I hit the brakes and all my lights are working???
As far as the cancel cam....i went to the junk yard and he wouldn't let me get it off one of our trucks. He wanted the colume intact for any possible sales, I guess I could see that. if I'd a ordered one a couple days ago like i said i was gonna, I'd probably have it already cause none of the local parts stores have em in stock. I'm gonna order one now and check the electrical section about the remander of issues with it. Any thoughts, ideas or suggestions? |
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
be careful putting it all together, i paid a local steering column shop $100 to rebuild my tilt column and they pinched a wire and created a direct short. it took me an extra week to find their mistake. i double checked everything i had done twice before opening my column up. its cool watching your fuse panel light up when a bunch of fuses pop in the dark.
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
I am having the same problem you described above in my 71. I broke the shifting lever on my colum and had to replace the whole thing. The PO had done some rewiring because he had added a replacement wheel so I used the existing wiring in the replacement column. I did use the old signal switch and hazards from my old column because the auto shutoff worked with it. I have had this problem the whole time I have had the truck, which is 4 months with both columns. I think it might have something to do with the switch. The only other problem I have is my reverse lights to not light up. I have not had time to play with it much because there is a short some where that kills the battery so I have to jump my battery everytime I want to go some where in it or test it. I keep unhooking it but I think it has been drained to much. The good thing is it is new and still under warranty so next time I get some free time I can get it replaced and start to play with it again.
If you get a hold of the assembly manual I would be intrested in getting a look at it. I had to unplug the horn because I could not figure out how the cancel cam worked and my horn stayed on. I would like to have it hooked up. PM me if you can get a digatal copy made of that manual.
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
I had the problem of the horn staying on all the time a while back. It started out only honking when I turned left, but then a couple days later started to stay on all the time. I figured out it was just that the steering wheel cracks had gotten so bad, the contact plate was touching the steel hub of the wheel. I replaced the steering wheel with one from a 67 and I like it better than the original one (70 style).
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
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JBC, I've been using a wiring diagram put up by Boundstaffpress...http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=185856 and it's been extremly usefull. I wish I had some build manuals, eventually I hope to get some. I'm gonna check the wiring down the colume to make sure I didnt pinch any of the new wires and start looking for shorts. my backup lights dont work either, that'll be next. i've seen a thread on here about troubleshooting those that was a good reference |
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
One thing I did with mine is wrap the wires coming up throught the column with teflon tape. That helps prevent casing abrasions and shorts.
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
I let the issue go for a bit and finally messed with it yesturday. I started backtracking from the taillights and the parking light that was lighting up when braking...ended up taking the steering wheel back off and more or less took the turn signal switch out and back in and now the rigth parking light doesnt light up anymore when braking.....gotta love it....hazzards stiill only come on when braking....recon I'll just get another new switch when i get the chance
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
Your hazzards... it sounds like your flasher is missing/dead.
Look in the fusebox, there should be 2 round metal can lookin things plugged into the box. Swap them one for the other, if the 4 ways now work, but not the turn signals,then you need a new flasher. |
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Re: Electrical: It shoulda been simple
Thank you sir, I'll check that out
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