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grayw0lf · 08-09-2007, 08:36 AM

Hey Guys,

I'm looking for any tips/suggestions on how to keep the oil pan gasket in place when replacing with the engine still in place. I've got a feeling that whole gravity thing is going to make things difficult.

John O>.

*screamin_eagle* · 08-09-2007, 08:59 AM

rtv

OLDIRON69 · 08-09-2007, 09:14 AM

Buy a (1) piece gasket. Instead of rtv, they sell some brush on stuff at the parts store that is a gasket adhesive, really cheap and works well.

EAST SIDE LOW LIFE · 08-09-2007, 09:17 AM

I prefer the one piece gaskets myself. I know they cost more but they are a whole lot less frustrating.

I don't know of a magic way to install a standard set. Just make sure you do not over tighten as this can cause the front and rear gaskets to move and create a bad seal. Torque to 10#.

esll.

cdowns · 08-09-2007, 09:37 AM

permatex aviation form-a-gasket// i too prefer to spend the extra for the 1piece gaskets

68gmsee · 08-09-2007, 09:41 AM

This is the way I do it and have been doing it for the last few times I've taken the oil pan out...

I take the pan off and clean the gasket surface real good with a flat blade scraper that I picked up (and of course clean the engine side also).

I make sure the pan surface is flat.

Then I put a bead of gasket adhesive or sealant to the oil pan only..

Buy a good quality gasket and lay it on the pan and use the bolts to insure it's in place and let it set/dry until it doesn't move. Sometimes an hour or more depending on the time that I have.

I've had good luck doing it this way and when I do remove the oil pan again, the gasket stays on the pan...

**truckdude239** · 08-09-2007, 10:30 AM

thin layer of rtv

OLDIRON69 · 08-09-2007, 10:58 AM

One thing to do as well is tighten the front two and rear bolts hand tight first. I was told that by my mechanic buddy and it really helped the 4 pc. stay in one spot while bolting it down. He uses the yellow "monkey snot" stuff, it works real well too. You know you will have to raise the motor up with a engine hoist for the pan to clear the front main too.

70GMCer · 08-09-2007, 11:17 AM

This is what I did......

http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...91#post1487791

**1971K54X4** · 08-09-2007, 11:44 AM

The last Fel Pro 1 piece gasket I bought came with 4 plastic clips to hold the gasket in place. I did not use them though, I had the motor out.

Richard H. · 08-09-2007, 12:49 PM

Valve covers and pans , I have been using thread for years to tie them on and just snip off the access when done.

estig70 · 08-09-2007, 12:59 PM

I have used string or zip ties to hold gaskets in place while installing back on engine. Just run a few in the bolt holes evenly around the pan (not every hole), after getting pan back in place, attach to engine by placing a few bolts in the holes without string or zip ties. Tip - do not tighten string or zip ties leaving loose just enough to be able to cut out with what ever means available. Afterward finish installing remaining bolts, tighten to specific torque. Don't forget to fill with oil afterward. hahaha!!!
Good luck!

Eric

dave2953 · 08-09-2007, 01:43 PM

I too have the FelPro one piece. It's a little spendy but well worth the money and easy to install.

BCOWANWHEELS · 08-09-2007, 02:04 PM

use 3M weather strip adhesive on pan side of gasket, after glueing gasket on pan turn pan over and let set for about an hour. it will stay in place for the rest of your life....... they dont call it gorilla snot for nothing.
bob

Scott68-93-97 · 08-09-2007, 02:06 PM

Little bit of rtv, make sure u peen the holes with a ball peen hammer before re installing pan

AR15DEFENSE · 08-09-2007, 02:08 PM

I use this, Fel Pro part number OS34510T. it comes with these 4 snap things that screw into the block. put your gasket in place, then snap the pan in place. install some bolts, then remove the snap things. easy japaneesy.

'68 longbed · 08-09-2007, 05:02 PM

buy yourself four "studs " to replace the bolts on the front and rear corners. perferably one inch , that way you can set the pan up with nuts and have room to make sure all is straight then ease it up evenly

**67 cst swb** · 08-09-2007, 06:22 PM

spray the gasket with COPPER-COAT SPRAY before installing on pan, then put your first bolt in as you lift... I've got one arm and it works for me.

Aarons72s · 08-09-2007, 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OLDIRON69

Buy a (1) piece gasket. Instead of rtv, they sell some brush on stuff at the parts store that is a gasket adhesive, really cheap and works well.

I use the brush on gasket adhessive all the time. Great stuff and seals good to.

**special-K** · 08-10-2007, 06:13 AM

I use 3M weatherstrip adhesive.

grayw0lf · 08-10-2007, 08:52 AM

I ended up using RTV. I forget how sticky that stuff is... especially when its 103 degrees out!

kxmotox247 · 08-10-2007, 01:22 PM

The one piece gasket with the enclosed plastic studs is the way to go if the engine is in the vehicle. I'm sure the other methods using RTV work well. The one piece gasket is supposed to be re-useable too.

grayw0lf · 08-10-2007, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kxmotox247

The one piece gasket with the enclosed plastic studs is the way to go if the engine is in the vehicle. I'm sure the other methods using RTV work well. The one piece gasket is supposed to be re-useable too.

I think I'll go 1 piece next time. I already had a old style gasket set in the garage & couldn't bring myself to spend the $.

08-09-2007, 08:36 AM	#1
grayw0lf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 1,253	How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? Hey Guys, I'm looking for any tips/suggestions on how to keep the oil pan gasket in place when replacing with the engine still in place. I've got a feeling that whole gravity thing is going to make things difficult. John O>. __________________ 85' CUCV M1009!!! The newest addition! 6.2diesel, Th400, NP208, & only 36k miles! 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside - Looking good these days! 05' Dodge Neon 88' Winner Escape Sport 1750 - 4.3v6 94' Seadoo SP 84' Honda TRX200, bare nekkid. Just a frame & tires. Always looking for another project or any good deal!

08-09-2007, 08:59 AM	#2
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OLDIRON69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ben Wheeler,Texas Posts: 992	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? Buy a (1) piece gasket. Instead of rtv, they sell some brush on stuff at the parts store that is a gasket adhesive, really cheap and works well. __________________ 05 2500HD 6.0 excab 69 LWB-Gone but not forgotten! 68 Dodge Charger 383/727 69 Dodge Charger-440/4spd

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EAST SIDE LOW LIFE Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: VANCOUVER ISLAND, B.C., Canada Posts: 1,602	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? I prefer the one piece gaskets myself. I know they cost more but they are a whole lot less frustrating. I don't know of a magic way to install a standard set. Just make sure you do not over tighten as this can cause the front and rear gaskets to move and create a bad seal. Torque to 10#. esll. __________________ Tomorrow is for doing today's stuff. ************************************* This truck has just the right amount of energy for me! Author: Warren Lake .... (member)

08-09-2007, 09:37 AM	#5
cdowns Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: daytonabeach Posts: 22,956	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? permatex aviation form-a-gasket// i too prefer to spend the extra for the 1piece gaskets __________________ 71c-10 350/2004r/4:11 lowered3/4 longbed/dead by hurricane MEANING OF DEATH::::: SOMEBODY ELSE GETS YOUR STUFF DONT BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU THINK TAKE MY ADVISE;I DON'T USE IT ANYWAY

08-09-2007, 09:41 AM	#6
68gmsee Active Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Centrally located between Houston, Austin and Waco. BCS area. Posts: 7,947	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? This is the way I do it and have been doing it for the last few times I've taken the oil pan out... I take the pan off and clean the gasket surface real good with a flat blade scraper that I picked up (and of course clean the engine side also). I make sure the pan surface is flat. Then I put a bead of gasket adhesive or sealant to the oil pan only.. Buy a good quality gasket and lay it on the pan and use the bolts to insure it's in place and let it set/dry until it doesn't move. Sometimes an hour or more depending on the time that I have. I've had good luck doing it this way and when I do remove the oil pan again, the gasket stays on the pan... Last edited by 68gmsee; 08-09-2007 at 10:13 AM. Reason: sequence...

08-09-2007, 10:30 AM	#7
truckdude239 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Lewisville, Nc Posts: 10,233	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? thin layer of rtv __________________ David fuller Ase Certified Mechanic Click here to help support our board!! 1971 Chevy c-10 under going a 4.8l LSx swap Build Thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=421305 2007 Honda Accord my daily 145kmiles 2002 Honda Accord 4 door With 330k(sisters car) 2005 toyota Avalon 228k( brothers car) 2002 Sububran 5.3 245k 2000 Tahoe 5.3l 378 General manager for Marco's Carwash & lube

08-09-2007, 10:58 AM	#8
OLDIRON69 Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Ben Wheeler,Texas Posts: 992	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? One thing to do as well is tighten the front two and rear bolts hand tight first. I was told that by my mechanic buddy and it really helped the 4 pc. stay in one spot while bolting it down. He uses the yellow "monkey snot" stuff, it works real well too. You know you will have to raise the motor up with a engine hoist for the pan to clear the front main too. __________________ 05 2500HD 6.0 excab 69 LWB-Gone but not forgotten! 68 Dodge Charger 383/727 69 Dodge Charger-440/4spd Last edited by OLDIRON69; 08-09-2007 at 11:00 AM.

08-09-2007, 11:17 AM	#9
70GMCer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 4,408	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? This is what I did...... http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...91#post1487791 __________________ 1997 GMC Sierra Ext 1965 Mustang

08-09-2007, 11:44 AM	#10
1971K54X4 Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Manchester, Iowa Posts: 1,493	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? The last Fel Pro 1 piece gasket I bought came with 4 plastic clips to hold the gasket in place. I did not use them though, I had the motor out.

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Richard H. Spanked once Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Intheshop, Indiana Posts: 969	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? Valve covers and pans , I have been using thread for years to tie them on and just snip off the access when done.

08-09-2007, 12:59 PM	#12
estig70 Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Mt. Sterling, Ky. Posts: 205	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? I have used string or zip ties to hold gaskets in place while installing back on engine. Just run a few in the bolt holes evenly around the pan (not every hole), after getting pan back in place, attach to engine by placing a few bolts in the holes without string or zip ties. Tip - do not tighten string or zip ties leaving loose just enough to be able to cut out with what ever means available. Afterward finish installing remaining bolts, tighten to specific torque. Don't forget to fill with oil afterward. hahaha!!! Good luck! Eric

08-09-2007, 01:43 PM	#13
dave2953 Dave's not here, man Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Winder, Georgia Posts: 2,000	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? I too have the FelPro one piece. It's a little spendy but well worth the money and easy to install. __________________ - 2014 VW Jetta - 2015 VW Jetta - 1966 Ford F-250

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BCOWANWHEELS Registered User Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: KINGSPORT,TN. Posts: 3,035	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? use 3M weather strip adhesive on pan side of gasket, after glueing gasket on pan turn pan over and let set for about an hour. it will stay in place for the rest of your life....... they dont call it gorilla snot for nothing. bob __________________ I BELIEVE IN JOHN 3:16

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AR15DEFENSE Resident Absorber Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: WI Posts: 131	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? I use this, Fel Pro part number OS34510T. it comes with these 4 snap things that screw into the block. put your gasket in place, then snap the pan in place. install some bolts, then remove the snap things. easy japaneesy. Attached Images __________________ The best offense is a better DEFENSE!

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'68 longbed Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: mississippi Posts: 181	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? buy yourself four "studs " to replace the bolts on the front and rear corners. perferably one inch , that way you can set the pan up with nuts and have room to make sure all is straight then ease it up evenly __________________ "spiiiider pig, spiiiiider pig, does whatever spiiiider pig does. "

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grayw0lf Registered User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Clanton, AL Posts: 1,253	Re: How to keep gasket in place when replacing oil pan? I ended up using RTV. I forget how sticky that stuff is... especially when its 103 degrees out! __________________ 85' CUCV M1009!!! The newest addition! 6.2diesel, Th400, NP208, & only 36k miles! 70' C-10 LWB Fleetside - Looking good these days! 05' Dodge Neon 88' Winner Escape Sport 1750 - 4.3v6 94' Seadoo SP 84' Honda TRX200, bare nekkid. Just a frame & tires. Always looking for another project or any good deal!

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