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1968SWBBigBlock · 08-12-2007, 03:22 PM

I am looking at truck to part out.
The body is a 1950 Ford however it looks to be on a GM chassis.
It has PS (saginaw box), PB, ( hydroboost), 4 wheel drive with at least a dana front axle, posi rear axle.
Come someone tell me where to look to ID the chassis, transfer case.
I would guess it is a mid 80's but really have no clue.
It drive, 4wd works, brakes work, if the chassis, transfer case and T400 is worth anything let me know.

Was Hydroboost a factory installed item?

Thanks

Bill

1969k10stepside · 08-12-2007, 07:09 PM

Post some pics and I can give you a time frame of the year if its a 67-72.If its got a turbo 400 it likely isnt a 67-72 frame as there wasnt turbo 400s in the 4wds but it could of always been added.There is a vin on the front of the frame but with pics its easily identified.Also post a pic of the t-case and it can be i.d.'d too

BurnoutNova · 08-12-2007, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1969k10stepside

If its got a turbo 400 it likely isnt a 67-72 frame as there wasnt turbo 400s in the 4wds

they didnt put them in any 4x4 67-72's ??

1969k10stepside · 08-12-2007, 10:59 PM

Nope,only turbo 350s

Blazer1970 · 08-13-2007, 07:51 AM

If it really has a turbo 400 and hydroboost, it would most likely be a '77 or up K30. That also means it would have a Dana 60 front axle. Post some pics.

1968SWBBigBlock · 08-14-2007, 09:17 PM

OK here are some pics = the tranny is a turbo 350

Again it does have Hydro boost with front disc brakes PS with a saginaw steering box and a GM tilt steering wheel

1969k10stepside · 08-14-2007, 09:33 PM

On the rear shocks,do they both point towards the cab or the passenger side pointing forward and the drivers side pointing to the rear bumper?I see a swaybar,which the 67-72 4wds didnt have.It could have been added but the chassis is possibly a 73-??.The axles are 1/2 ton.12 bolt rear,44 front.

1968SWBBigBlock · 08-14-2007, 09:42 PM

staggered shocks- drivers side points back, passenger forward

1969k10stepside · 08-15-2007, 12:00 AM

Then that would be a 73-78 or so 4wd,assuming the front differential is original.Around 78 or so they went to the Corp. 10 bolt front.

BurnoutNova · 08-15-2007, 01:53 AM

can a 73+ sway bar be installed on a 67-72 k series truck? the top spring plate looks like it might work

Blazer1970 · 08-15-2007, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BurnoutNova

can a 73+ sway bar be installed on a 67-72 k series truck? the top spring plate looks like it might work

It can be done pretty easily. You have to do some fabbing for the upper mounts.

1968SWBBigBlock · 08-15-2007, 08:58 AM

Ok any idea on what the transfer case is?

What about value for the entire set up rolling with tranny, transfer case, front and rear axles.

OLDCHEV4X4 · 08-15-2007, 09:43 AM

Thats a NP205 case.

earl87gta · 08-15-2007, 04:07 PM

I would say its worth around 600 figure 300 to 400 for the trans and transfer case and then 150 to 200 for axles if you were to part it out you may be able to get 700 for it but it would take some time.

hgs_notes · 08-16-2007, 12:28 PM

73 and up 1/2 tons did not come with a NP205 T case. Are the axles 8 lug or 6? If they are 6 lug, I think there may have been some swaps made. You could get a NP205 and Dana 44 front on 3/4 ton trucks though.

us111 · 08-16-2007, 12:38 PM

not positive but that t-case looks just like my 203

earl87gta · 08-16-2007, 04:03 PM

That case is a 205 for sure and its posible that it is out of 1/2 ton just not 73 more like 83 and since its a 400 trans I would say half ton 6.2 diesel truck or burb both came with a 400 trans up to around 84 85 then they went to the 400 with 208 or 241 in the 3/4 and one ton and the 1/2 ton got a 700r4 with a 203. I get them dert cheap around 600 for the hole burb or truck if it doesnt run. Get the BOM number off the front axle and we can look it up.

1969 GMC · 08-16-2007, 08:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by earl87gta

That case is a 205 for sure and its posible that it is out of 1/2 ton just not 73 more like 83 and since its a 400 trans I would say half ton 6.2 diesel truck or burb both came with a 400 trans up to around 84 85 then they went to the 400 with 208 or 241 in the 3/4 and one ton and the 1/2 ton got a 700r4 with a 203. I get them dert cheap around 600 for the hole burb or truck if it doesnt run. Get the BOM number off the front axle and we can look it up.

He said it was a TH350. This combo was factory in the 69-72 time frame, and then also in 1980, when all K trucks got 205's. My guess is that this truck is like a potluck dinner...not just a donor chassis.

K10's never got TH400/205 combos, neither did K20's for that matter...K30 only combo. However, some C10's got the TH400, and quite a few K20s got TH400/208 or 241 combos.

Also, the 700r4 never came with a 203 behind it from the factory.

earl87gta · 08-17-2007, 12:44 AM

I missed were it went from a 400 to a 350. I had a 82 6.2 diesel k10 and I dont rember it having a 700r4 in it I dont think it had over drive maybe it did its been years ago I know my 86 k20 has 400 and 241 in it. but if his has a 350 no telling what it came out of you can still get the BOM off the axles and look them up and see what they came from.

1968SWBBigBlock · 08-26-2007, 09:27 PM

OK I did find that tag and confirmed that this is an NP205 Dated in late 1972
So it should be out of a 73 truck
The rearend is dated 272 making it an early 72 rearend so it has most likley been swapped in, I am going to pull the covers and confirms insides and gears

BurnoutNova · 08-26-2007, 10:06 PM

ive seen a 73 blazer with a th350/ 205 combo but it must have been an early one

08-12-2007, 03:22 PM	#1
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	4x4 Chassis ID + Value I am looking at truck to part out. The body is a 1950 Ford however it looks to be on a GM chassis. It has PS (saginaw box), PB, ( hydroboost), 4 wheel drive with at least a dana front axle, posi rear axle. Come someone tell me where to look to ID the chassis, transfer case. I would guess it is a mid 80's but really have no clue. It drive, 4wd works, brakes work, if the chassis, transfer case and T400 is worth anything let me know. Was Hydroboost a factory installed item? Thanks Bill __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

08-12-2007, 07:09 PM	#2
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value Post some pics and I can give you a time frame of the year if its a 67-72.If its got a turbo 400 it likely isnt a 67-72 frame as there wasnt turbo 400s in the 4wds but it could of always been added.There is a vin on the front of the frame but with pics its easily identified.Also post a pic of the t-case and it can be i.d.'d too Last edited by 1969k10stepside; 08-12-2007 at 07:10 PM.

08-12-2007, 10:59 PM	#4
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value Nope,only turbo 350s

08-13-2007, 07:51 AM	#5
Blazer1970 Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Old Mission, MI, USA Posts: 2,507	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value If it really has a turbo 400 and hydroboost, it would most likely be a '77 or up K30. That also means it would have a Dana 60 front axle. Post some pics. __________________ Tim

08-14-2007, 09:17 PM	#6
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value OK here are some pics = the tranny is a turbo 350 Again it does have Hydro boost with front disc brakes PS with a saginaw steering box and a GM tilt steering wheel Attached Images __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

08-14-2007, 09:33 PM	#7
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value On the rear shocks,do they both point towards the cab or the passenger side pointing forward and the drivers side pointing to the rear bumper?I see a swaybar,which the 67-72 4wds didnt have.It could have been added but the chassis is possibly a 73-??.The axles are 1/2 ton.12 bolt rear,44 front. Last edited by 1969k10stepside; 08-14-2007 at 09:34 PM.

08-14-2007, 09:42 PM	#8
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value staggered shocks- drivers side points back, passenger forward __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

08-15-2007, 12:00 AM	#9
1969k10stepside Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: USA Posts: 21,019	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value Then that would be a 73-78 or so 4wd,assuming the front differential is original.Around 78 or so they went to the Corp. 10 bolt front.

08-15-2007, 01:53 AM	#10
BurnoutNova Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,057	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value can a 73+ sway bar be installed on a 67-72 k series truck? the top spring plate looks like it might work

08-15-2007, 08:58 AM	#12
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value Ok any idea on what the transfer case is? What about value for the entire set up rolling with tranny, transfer case, front and rear axles. __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

08-15-2007, 09:43 AM	#13
OLDCHEV4X4 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Chester County PA, USA Posts: 1,228	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value Thats a NP205 case. __________________ 72 k/10 short wideside 72 k/5 Blazer 72 K/5 Blazer - obstacle course racer 72 custom/10 8' bed 70 K/5 Blazer 67 C-30 GMC Flat bed 86 GMC K2500 Plow Truck 85 GMC K3500 84 M1008 85 M1008 77 G30 Motor Home 72 Sears 12hp Tractor Glenmoore, Pennsylvania

08-15-2007, 04:07 PM	#14
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value I would say its worth around 600 figure 300 to 400 for the trans and transfer case and then 150 to 200 for axles if you were to part it out you may be able to get 700 for it but it would take some time. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb

08-16-2007, 12:28 PM	#15
hgs_notes GEARHEAD Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: MN Posts: 6,126	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value 73 and up 1/2 tons did not come with a NP205 T case. Are the axles 8 lug or 6? If they are 6 lug, I think there may have been some swaps made. You could get a NP205 and Dana 44 front on 3/4 ton trucks though. __________________ If no one knows what you're doing, they can't tell you you're doing it wrong HG's Dream Car Build - Shelby Cobra Kit Build your own adjustable track bar 71 Long Fleet C/10 72 Jimmy 4x4 (Junkyard Jimmy) HG's Plow Truck '78 K35 Dually Bigass Farm Truck HG's thread of miscellaneous stuff

08-16-2007, 12:38 PM	#16
us111 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: ashland oh Posts: 660	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value not positive but that t-case looks just like my 203

08-16-2007, 04:03 PM	#17
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value That case is a 205 for sure and its posible that it is out of 1/2 ton just not 73 more like 83 and since its a 400 trans I would say half ton 6.2 diesel truck or burb both came with a 400 trans up to around 84 85 then they went to the 400 with 208 or 241 in the 3/4 and one ton and the 1/2 ton got a 700r4 with a 203. I get them dert cheap around 600 for the hole burb or truck if it doesnt run. Get the BOM number off the front axle and we can look it up. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb Last edited by earl87gta; 08-16-2007 at 04:05 PM.



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08-17-2007, 12:44 AM	#19
earl87gta Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kingsport TN Posts: 4,641	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value I missed were it went from a 400 to a 350. I had a 82 6.2 diesel k10 and I dont rember it having a 700r4 in it I dont think it had over drive maybe it did its been years ago I know my 86 k20 has 400 and 241 in it. but if his has a 350 no telling what it came out of you can still get the BOM off the axles and look them up and see what they came from. __________________ Earl 68 2500 4x4 GMC Burb

08-26-2007, 09:27 PM	#20
1968SWBBigBlock Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,643	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value OK I did find that tag and confirmed that this is an NP205 Dated in late 1972 So it should be out of a 73 truck The rearend is dated 272 making it an early 72 rearend so it has most likley been swapped in, I am going to pull the covers and confirms insides and gears __________________ 1968 SWB 454 + .040, 490HP x 540 FT pounds of Torque 10-1 Kb Forged pistons, recon rods w/ ARP wave loc bolts 781 heads Ported with 2.19/1.88 SSTvalves Lunati 60204 cam, Micro Trol lifters, Ported Edelbrock Performer Rpm manifold armor coated, Pertronix Triple Strike Ignition Holley 770 Street Avenger carb,Headers armor coated Built by Watson Ruppel Performance in Sarahsville Ohio. Hardshift Tranny Built Turbo 350,TSI 10" 3000 stall 12 Bolt Eaton Posi 4.10 Richmond Gears moser axles 18.5" x 31" Hoosier Pro Street Radials ET Classic 5 Wheels - polished Power Steering, Power Brakes,Disc Brakes,Tach & Gauge Dash, Tilt,Factory Air (gone) Custom Paint & Body Work Special thanks to my wife, my son and my money tree

08-26-2007, 10:06 PM	#21
BurnoutNova Registered User Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: CA Posts: 2,057	Re: 4x4 Chassis ID + Value ive seen a 73 blazer with a th350/ 205 combo but it must have been an early one

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