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Luvlegs · 02-20-2008, 12:26 AM

I've got two similiar posts going but not having much luck getting an answer -If I can get squared away, with an hour or two I can fire the truck up. It's nice today and I need to get it out of my drive and back into a building.

I've read all the posts, faqs, searched - can't get an answer to these two questions.

When swapping over to gauges, from idiot dash, GMC Pauls site directions say to:
Hook power from 12R (full 12v from harness) NEAR the alternator, to terminal #1 on the cluster.... YES/NO?

It also says to hook a wire from #12 on the cluster to "brown/blk on the terminal connector near the battery" - ??? Is this not another 12v from near the fusible links going to the cluster now too? What is this referring to?

If both of these are as I've written, PLLLEEEASSEEE someone let me know, I need to get this thing running today. Thanks all!

myoldchevytruck · 02-20-2008, 12:39 AM

Hey Luvlegs,

Can't answer your question but call WES at Classic Heartbeat, I'm sure he can.

Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts
WEHEPP@comcast.net
Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502

Good Luck and Git It Fired Up

Harry

Luvlegs · 02-20-2008, 01:00 AM

Wes said he wasn't sure and he has a posting on his site of the conversion but I couldn't find it anywhere on there....

I'm almost to the point I'm going to hook it up and if all my rebuilt harness's and gauges melt, just push it down to the hill to the crushers place and put the money in my pocket (my wife will probably help).
I'm just getting frustrated... maybe I need to ask what my backspacing is or for pics of a 2/4 drop...

lilred67 · 02-20-2008, 02:15 AM

i done this swap a while back. i did it using gmcpauls info. i'm not able to look at mine at the moment, but it sounds like your on the right track. i ran one to the alternator and hooked the other one into the fuse block on the fender by the battery. also add a 4 amp fuse to each of these wires so......you won't melt all your gauges.

Luvlegs · 02-20-2008, 02:53 AM

THANKS lilred... ok - just need some clarification there - the "fuse block by the battery, on the fender" - that is 12V (+) - where the fusible links connect - correct?

The other wire, you connected to the alternator... 12(+) there too?

This doesn't require a positive to negative connection correct - does the meter itself act as a load ("+" to "+")? What am I missing?

neonlarry · 02-20-2008, 03:11 AM

Those two conections are so your ampmeter will work. You can fire it up without those connections if you don't want to believe what people are telling you.

Luvlegs · 02-20-2008, 03:59 AM

Larry - I realize I could start it up without them but I want to button up the harness's I've built so I don't have 2 extra wires running around by themselves and run them through the bulkhead connectors so I don't have to take them back out.
Second, it has nothing to do with believing what everyone is telling me, all I have is 3/4 answers that I need to have clarified 100%

Botietruck · 02-20-2008, 10:10 AM

Luvlegs, I have looked everywhere for the wiring schematic booklet and I cannot find it. I'll keep looking and if I find it I will let you know. Sorry...

463 · 02-20-2008, 10:23 AM

here it is the link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=185665:chevy:

02-20-2008, 12:39 AM	#2
myoldchevytruck Retired Air Force Veteran Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida 33024 Posts: 1,808	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... Hey Luvlegs, Can't answer your question but call WES at Classic Heartbeat, I'm sure he can. Classic Heartbeat Pickup Parts WEHEPP@comcast.net Call us Toll Free (888) 338-2502 Good Luck and Git It Fired Up Harry __________________ Harry 69' SWB Step Side 1/2 Ton w/68' Front Clip Swap from Leafs to Trailing Arms (Complete) Swap 6 Lug to 5 Lug (w/ Disk Brakes in Front) 3/6 Drop Help Support The Board Click Here For Information On How To Subscribe Krue's FAQ Page Vendors

02-20-2008, 01:00 AM	#3
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... Wes said he wasn't sure and he has a posting on his site of the conversion but I couldn't find it anywhere on there.... I'm almost to the point I'm going to hook it up and if all my rebuilt harness's and gauges melt, just push it down to the hill to the crushers place and put the money in my pocket (my wife will probably help). I'm just getting frustrated... maybe I need to ask what my backspacing is or for pics of a 2/4 drop... __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

02-20-2008, 02:15 AM	#4
lilred67 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: weatherford,texas Posts: 1,003	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... i done this swap a while back. i did it using gmcpauls info. i'm not able to look at mine at the moment, but it sounds like your on the right track. i ran one to the alternator and hooked the other one into the fuse block on the fender by the battery. also add a 4 amp fuse to each of these wires so......you won't melt all your gauges.

02-20-2008, 02:53 AM	#5
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... THANKS lilred... ok - just need some clarification there - the "fuse block by the battery, on the fender" - that is 12V (+) - where the fusible links connect - correct? The other wire, you connected to the alternator... 12(+) there too? This doesn't require a positive to negative connection correct - does the meter itself act as a load ("+" to "+")? What am I missing? __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

02-20-2008, 03:11 AM	#6
neonlarry Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Vacaville, CA Posts: 2,745	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... Those two conections are so your ampmeter will work. You can fire it up without those connections if you don't want to believe what people are telling you. __________________ 70 C/10 Light Red 350/TH350, HEI, Duals w/40 series Flows, 91 seat, LED taillights 99 Pontiac S/C GTP, SLP Ram Air hood, GMPP Konis & springs 95 Neon ACR, MP PCM, AFX UDP, 3.0 CAI

02-20-2008, 12:26 AM	#1
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... I've got two similiar posts going but not having much luck getting an answer -If I can get squared away, with an hour or two I can fire the truck up. It's nice today and I need to get it out of my drive and back into a building. I've read all the posts, faqs, searched - can't get an answer to these two questions. When swapping over to gauges, from idiot dash, GMC Pauls site directions say to: Hook power from 12R (full 12v from harness) NEAR the alternator, to terminal #1 on the cluster.... YES/NO? It also says to hook a wire from #12 on the cluster to "brown/blk on the terminal connector near the battery" - ??? Is this not another 12v from near the fusible links going to the cluster now too? What is this referring to? If both of these are as I've written, PLLLEEEASSEEE someone let me know, I need to get this thing running today. Thanks all! __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

02-20-2008, 03:59 AM	#7
Luvlegs Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Smith Mountain Lake Virginia Posts: 1,537	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... Larry - I realize I could start it up without them but I want to button up the harness's I've built so I don't have 2 extra wires running around by themselves and run them through the bulkhead connectors so I don't have to take them back out. Second, it has nothing to do with believing what everyone is telling me, all I have is 3/4 answers that I need to have clarified 100% __________________ "A cat will almost always blink when hit between the eyes with a ball peen hammer" (you don't always have to state the obvious) Wear your PPE! You can eat with false teeth but you can't see with a false eye. 1959 Studebaker Silverhawk 350/400 1972 C10 L6 3OTT 2005 F350 - Built - whew!

02-20-2008, 10:10 AM	#8
Botietruck '71 chevy s.bed/s.side Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 1,571	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... Luvlegs, I have looked everywhere for the wiring schematic booklet and I cannot find it. I'll keep looking and if I find it I will let you know. Sorry... __________________ STILL PLAYS WITH CARS...AND TRUCKS!! Parents! Be good to your kids...they get to choose your nursing home! 250 I-6 with a 3 speed Saginaw and Borg Warner Overdrive...She's got overdrive!

02-20-2008, 10:23 AM	#9
463 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Sask Canada Posts: 1,666	Re: If I can get this answered, I can fire up today.... here it is the link: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=185665:chevy:

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