fastest low budget sbc truck?

[68c10owner]

Who has the fastest low budget sbc truck? Doesn`t have to currently have a small block but I`m curiouse what you guys are doing with little money. What i mean by low budget is either factory gm heads or cheap aftermarket heads like the iron spotmans that can be bought for under $1000. I`m not made of money and all I can afford is to rebuild the 4 bolt main 350 I have in the garage. I don`t care if you run 14`s or 11`s, I want to hear how you did it cheap.

[70rs/ss]

I am building a Vortec 383. I bought the complete longblock for $150 (GM core charge for guys replacing a Vortec with crate), so you can get them for that as I have bought two for the same price. Inexpensive 383 cast set up and I hope to have less than $1500 in it, worked Vortecs(062, screw in studs, guide plates, port work, better spring for over 500 lift!), big roller cam mutha thumpr (roller block) and throw down 400+hp. It won't go in my truck, but I would say it is about as low buck as it can get (by the time you R&R the crank, rods, etc a cast 383 rotating assembly is near even and a lot more power/torq) and if you need more umpff, NO2 if needed??

[fast_dev]

its been together awile so i can't give you an exact price but, i have a 400 4 bolt block .030 over, gm 5.7 rods from a 350, hyperutectic pistons, dart iron eagle heads, solid cam, 750 holley. best pass is 11.91 with a 4 speed. all motor. nothing special, no port work, all off the shelf parts.

[chevy72blu]

Originally Posted by fast_dev

its been together awile so i can't give you an exact price but, i have a 400 4 bolt block .030 over, gm 5.7 rods from a 350, hyperutectic pistons, dart iron eagle heads, solid cam, 750 holley. best pass is 11.91 with a 4 speed. all motor. nothing special, no port work, all off the shelf parts.

Wow, I'd like to hear more about that build. What compression, and what did that bump stick look like?

As many of us have said, going fast in these trucks isnt cheap. My old setup - 355 with worked TBI heads, stock HEI, z-28 springs, Comp 270-H flat tappet hyd cam, Edel rpm intake, edel 600 cfm carb, open hooker comp headers, TH-350 with vette' converter, posi 12 bolt/3.73, 28x14.5 DOT slicks, went low 15's @ 2200 ft above sea level and a hot evening w/ full weight (1/2 ton SWB fleet).

The motor was a crate when I got it with around 20k miles on it. The heads/cam/top end were around 1000 all together. Another 1000 in the rear, converter was free.

It wasnt fast, but I still had a ton of fun with it bracket racing on the weekends.

My 496 should go into the 11's on the bottle - I've built it for less than 2k... I even worked for parts for a while at a local machine shop

[hotrod 80]

$100 -2 bolt 350 638 tbi truck block (salvage yard)
$88 - used 2256 trw 4 relief forged flat tops ( ebay )
Free- powdered metal rods ( machine shop has a pile of them )
$35 - nodular iron vortec crank ( ebay )
$860- GM fastburn heads + rpm airgap(factory out of box except comp springs )
$211-650 speed demon (ebay)
$46-factory HEI with MSD board(ebay)
$65- used roller lifter set W/retainer and hardware (local recycler)
$450- machine work including balance (Jim's machine)
$239- XR288HR Kit
Lets just say $2250 with a gasket set and a new pump . Made 364 HP on chassis dyno ( which they all very ) and 501 hp on a mild N20 tune up .
Best motor pass was 11.65 @ 3000 #'s . I have over 250 passes on this combo and it is still giong strong . Will be spraying 250 this weekend with new slicks , hoping to get in the 6.60's

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by hotrod 80

$100 -2 bolt 350 638 tbi truck block (salvage yard)
$88 - used 2256 trw 4 relief forged flat tops ( ebay )
Free- powdered metal rods ( machine shop has a pile of them )
$35 - nodular iron vortec crank ( ebay )
$860- GM fastburn heads + rpm airgap(factory out of box except comp springs )
$211-650 speed demon (ebay)
$46-factory HEI with MSD board(ebay)
$65- used roller lifter set W/retainer and hardware (local recycler)
$450- machine work including balance (Jim's machine)
$239- XR288HR Kit
Lets just say $2250 with a gasket set and a new pump . Made 364 HP on chassis dyno ( which they all very ) and 501 hp on a mild N20 tune up .
Best motor pass was 11.65 @ 3000 #'s . I have over 250 passes on this combo and it is still giong strong . Will be spraying 250 this weekend with new slicks , hoping to get in the 6.60's

was this in a truck? Sounds like a fun combo.

[hotrod 80]

Originally Posted by 68c10owner

was this in a truck? Sounds like a fun combo.

Yes , it is in a Chevy Luv .

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by hotrod 80

Yes , it is in a Chevy Luv .

ok, nothing against a chevy luv but they are not as heavy as the 60-72 chevys. These are the trucks I want to hear about. Don`t get me wrong, your luv sounds like a rocket but since I own a 62 chevy and not a luv, your combo won`t give me similar results.

[hotrod 80]

This short block will probably go in the 67' I'll get back to you with 1/4 mile times then .

[Couch]

350 4 bolt all, just balanced stock crank and rods .030 over speed pro hypers( got the engine from pick n pull that way) stock 882 smog head with minor bowl blending. roller rockers.screw in studs, .515/520 at 50 244/244 at 50 hydraulic flat tappet.edelbrock scorpion 2 intake and a holley 750dp,with msd dist.all together i have like 1k into my motor. it makes 267hp and 353 ft lbs on a chassis dyno through a th350 and 12 bolt with 4.10s. i got brave and its been living on a 200 shot for the past 4-5 months. it dynoed 428hp and 564 ft lbs to the wheels. going to the track saturday. 69 swb 3500lbs. should do high 13's low 14's on motor and hoping for high 11's on bottle.i'll let you know , but thats budget stuff gettin the job done

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by Couch

350 4 bolt all, just balanced stock crank and rods .030 over speed pro hypers( got the engine from pick n pull that way) stock 882 smog head with minor bowl blending. roller rockers.screw in studs, .515/520 at 50 244/244 at 50 hydraulic flat tappet.edelbrock scorpion 2 intake and a holley 750dp,with msd dist.all together i have like 1k into my motor. it makes 267hp and 353 ft lbs on a chassis dyno through a th350 and 12 bolt with 4.10s. i got brave and its been living on a 200 shot for the past 4-5 months. it dynoed 428hp and 564 ft lbs to the wheels. going to the track saturday. 69 swb 3500lbs. should do high 13's low 14's on motor and hoping for high 11's on bottle.i'll let you know , but thats budget stuff gettin the job done

Thanks for the input. Keep us posted on how it runs on the bottle.

[djracer]

This one did pretty good for cheap! http://www.dragtruk.com/ENTRIES/U1G6UF5XJGYS.html

[nxtruck]

I had a 377 in my '66 that consisted of a $50.00 400 block ( .060 over ), a $75.00 factory steel 350 crank, a set of stock 5.7 rods, a set of TRW L2311F pistons @ $300.00/set, an old pair of ported Sportsman heads, a used .660 lift solid roller cam and lifters, a strip dominator intake, and an 850 holley that ran 7.40s in the 1/8 @ 4020 lbs. For what it was, I think it ran pretty good, especially considering the money spent on it. It also saw a 400 hp n2o shot a couple of times and a 250 hp shot a bunch of times. The block finally split in the #4 cylinder, but not before a lot of passes and street-driving.
Forgot to add that the 7.40s were on motor only; it ran 6.60s w/a 250 shot. I only hit it with 400 a couple of times on the outer road close to my house, so I don't know how much quicker it would've been at the track.

[BADGMC]

$100 2-bolt Block
$200 Bore/Hone .030, Align Hone for ARP main studs
$1000 Eagle Cast crank, SIR Rods, Probe Forged Pistons, Balanced
$750 180cc Pro Topline Iron heads Assembled
$300 Comp Cam and Lifters, Pushrods, Used roller rockers
$100 Used intake
$100 Oil Pump, Gaskets, other BS
$500 Two Garrett T04B turbos (ebay)
$1000 CSU carb and hat
$500 Used Waste Gates, Blow Off, Home built headers, cold side plumbing

$4,550 Total All rounded up to nearest $50

Ran 10.91@123 (6.93@100 1/8th) in my 85 at 8psi boost weighing 4250 lbs.

No bottles to fill and only 91 octane needed. Never had a problem with it and could drive it anywhere (12-14mpg). Only need 1 set of spark plugs a year and normal oil changes. Operating costs were basically gas and tires.

[fast_dev]

they are .100 dome speed pro pistons, and a 565 lift lunati solid. about 11.8-12.1 compression.

[nxtruck]

Originally Posted by BADGMC

$100 2-bolt Block
$200 Bore/Hone .030, Align Hone for ARP main studs
$1000 Eagle Cast crank, SIR Rods, Probe Forged Pistons, Balanced
$750 180cc Pro Topline Iron heads Assembled
$300 Comp Cam and Lifters, Pushrods, Used roller rockers
$100 Used intake
$100 Oil Pump, Gaskets, other BS
$500 Two Garrett T04B turbos (ebay)
$1000 CSU carb and hat
$500 Used Waste Gates, Blow Off, Home built headers, cold side plumbing

$4,550 Total All rounded up to nearest $50

Ran 10.91@123 (6.93@100 1/8th) in my 85 at 8psi boost weighing 4250 lbs.

No bottles to fill and only 91 octane needed. Never had a problem with it and could drive it anywhere (12-14mpg). Only need 1 set of spark plugs a year and normal oil changes. Operating costs were basically gas and tires.

This sounds like a COOL combo! I've always wanted to try a turbo deal with mine. All my experience has been with spray, so it would be a whole new ballgame for me. Any chance that you have any underhood pics of your setup?

[BADGMC]

Here, this was the old setup I listed. The air filters were piped up into the rad support for cooler air after these pics were taken.

[chevy72blu]

Originally Posted by BADGMC

Here, this was the old setup I listed. The air filters were piped up into the rad support for cooler air after these pics were taken.

What other changes have you made to shave off those 3 tenths? That is a damn cool motor.. and getting that kinda MPG while running 10's is just plain awsome. How hard was it to make your headers and plumb the turbos?

[nxtruck]

Originally Posted by BADGMC

Here, this was the old setup I listed. The air filters were piped up into the rad support for cooler air after these pics were taken.

Neat setup! Thanks for sharing the pics!
With your new setup, have you went to an I/C setup or are you still running your piped setup? And where did you get your piping from the air cleaners to the hat?

[Couch]

just got back from the track 4 o clock in the morning, trailer had a blowout. so much fun.


first pass= all motor
14.3 with a 2.0 60' at 90mph.
hooked so hard the truck almost died,just ran outta nuts up top.

2nd pass= 200 shot
12.1 with a 1.7 60' at 106 mph
didnt grab the unit until like 20ft out.so i figured id do it sooner the next time and up the pills

3rd pass=200 shot outta the hole
12.3 with a 2.0 60' at 106mph
spun as the track prep got worse throughout the night

4th pass= 250 shot
12.2 with 2.0 60' at 109mph
spun its a$$ off but pulled harder than ive ever felt

overall great night at the track,met a fellow board member. proof of the budget build.he seen the junkyard monster

[wild one]

Originally Posted by Couch

just got back from the track 4 o clock in the morning, trailer had a blowout. so much fun.

2nd pass= 200 shot
12.1 with a 1.7 60' at 106 mph
didnt grab the unit until like 20ft out.so i figured id do it sooner the next time and up the pills

overall great night at the track,met a fellow board member. proof of the budget build.he seen the junkyard monster

Yeah, I did get to meet COUCH and see the beast make the 2nd pass. Seeing it in action was something else - I would have never thought that the truck was capable of an E.T. like that, very impressive.

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by Couch

just got back from the track 4 o clock in the morning, trailer had a blowout. so much fun.


first pass= all motor
14.3 with a 2.0 60' at 90mph.
hooked so hard the truck almost died,just ran outta nuts up top.

2nd pass= 200 shot
12.1 with a 1.7 60' at 106 mph
didnt grab the unit until like 20ft out.so i figured id do it sooner the next time and up the pills

3rd pass=200 shot outta the hole
12.3 with a 2.0 60' at 106mph
spun as the track prep got worse throughout the night

4th pass= 250 shot
12.2 with 2.0 60' at 109mph
spun its a$$ off but pulled harder than ive ever felt

overall great night at the track,met a fellow board member. proof of the budget build.he seen the junkyard monster

very cool couch. Maybe thats what I should do, just build a solid, forged low end and run a bottle instead of building a high dollar motor. I could probably put one together for aroung $1500-2000. What cam are you running?

[Couch]

im actually not even sure.lol. its an extra that a friend had laying around. its a hydraulic comp cams.from what he says its a 505 straight across lift with 244 straigh across duration. all i know is it reacted great to bottle.

[68c10owner]

Originally Posted by Couch

im actually not even sure.lol. its an extra that a friend had laying around. its a hydraulic comp cams.from what he says its a 505 straight across lift with 244 straigh across duration. all i know is it reacted great to bottle.

sounds like a comp 292 magnum. I know a few guys who used that cam and some ran a 150 shot as well. I think the 110 LSA helps with the bottle. You got me thinking now.

[turbo350]

I've never used nitrous but what incredible power gains you got. I've got two small stock small blocks in the shop that I'm tempted to run some juice through.