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**Yukon Jack** · 11-15-2002, 10:45 AM

With the help of Blazerboy and Barn9 we got the old manifold off and couldn't pass up sitting some of the goodies on the engine for a poser pic! So glad I painted it. Oil pan is next.

Capitol68 · 11-15-2002, 10:53 AM

Very pretty horsey pose there !

Mike C · 11-15-2002, 11:32 AM

I feel like a proud Papa! Looks good Mark, I'm glad you liked my recommendations.

Can't wait to get my Performer and get my 427 rebuilt!

Mudder · 11-15-2002, 11:34 AM

Very good Jack! Those valve covers are tuff!

jmil1974 · 11-15-2002, 12:05 PM

LOVE THOSE VALVE COVERS!!

**Yukon Jack** · 11-15-2002, 12:15 PM

Thanks for all the kind words. I'm so glad I was talked into cleaning and painting the engine.

The valve covers have 454 stickers to go on them and were just $98 from Scoggin Dickey - now down to $90. That's pretty cheap for aluminum.

BLAZERMAN · 11-15-2002, 09:23 PM

Looking real SHARP!! thanks for the new wallpaper.

GMC71k20 · 11-15-2002, 11:12 PM

what kind of headers are those? ive heard that other BB 4x trucks have problem with headers and the front driveshaft

breeh · 11-15-2002, 11:36 PM

I am curious about how those headers will fit as well. I just went through the process of putting a BB in my 4x4 and the clearance was tight on the right side. I used factory manifolds.

>X< · 11-16-2002, 12:39 AM

nice, thats the first time i've seen those valve covers on motor, they're bad ass, might get some myself, especially at that price.

when you get an air cleaner that big-to make it fit do you just change out the air cleaner stud to a longer one?

Project1970 · 11-16-2002, 12:46 AM

I just cut some threaded rod stock to fit for mine.

**Yukon Jack** · 11-16-2002, 03:31 PM

Blazerman - hope my front springs are up to the task, should be with the hd leaves you gave me - didn't know they would actually be put to use for a big block when you gave them to me!

The headers are Dynomax Cermacoated that are for the 73-up 4x4. I'm just gonna have to see how they work out. I will think positive and maybe get lucky!

Breeh - what clearance problems did you run in to - just curious of what to expect.

I still might try to find a 73-87 engine cross member and towers as that appears to help on the header issues. Checked around the local salvage yards by phone with no luck yesterday.

Oh, Blazerman - sorry there isn't a pretty background for the pic rather than my junkie barn!

Maybe I will have to roll it outside or something.

Mike C · 11-16-2002, 11:38 PM

I have heard the best headers for the 4x4 truck are 66-67 Chevelle big block headers, but I cannot confirm.

Danny69' · 11-17-2002, 12:17 AM

Looks pretty sweet... Love the background too.. J/K..

breeh · 11-17-2002, 12:41 AM

I was going to try using a set of Hooker Super Comps for first gen Camaros and there was no way they would fit. I had to trim about a 1/4" from the frame rail on the passenger side to get factory manifolds to fit. I slid the motor forward about 1 1/2" to accomadate the 700R4 and to give myself some more HEI clearance but I don't know how this would affect header clearance. Anyway, if yours fit I would love to know.

breeh · 11-17-2002, 12:42 AM

Here is the engine in the bay....

Mudhuny · 11-17-2002, 01:31 AM

I just put a big block (454) in my 72 4x4, and am wondering what fan shroud you used? I've been looking for one, but haven't found one that will work. Thanks.

Jason

Fred T · 11-17-2002, 03:02 AM

Jack, if you'll tell me where you live near Rose Hill, I'll come down tomorrow and help you install that engine in my truck.

Lookin good, man.

barn9 · 11-17-2002, 03:55 AM

LOL Fred!! I think you're gonna have to go the back of the line! LOL!

Hey Mark, I seem to remember someone else talking about using the Chevelle headers on the 4x4's, might be worth posting on the subject. Let me know about progress, etc. Cya!

MOTHERTRUCKERS · 11-17-2002, 09:22 AM

Dynamax headers part# 86022 fit very good on big block 4x4 trucks. We have sold many sets without complaints on fitting and installed them on 6 or 7 trucks in our shop in the last year. Send me the motor and i'll test fit it and make sure it goes thru a correct break- in period for you, send 2 sets of fresh tires with it along with extra drivetrain parts.

nitor · 11-17-2002, 09:39 AM

Very pretty engine.

**Yukon Jack** · 11-17-2002, 10:33 AM

Ed, the ones I bought are for 73-87 BB-Chevy 4WD (1/2 and 3/4 ton only), part no. 86089. They were a shot in the dark hope that they will work + I am giving some consideration to trying to pick up a 73-87 engine crossmember and towers as I have read that helps with header options. So far haven't found any local or on the 73-87 parts board.

On the big blocks you have installed, have you generally left the engine in the small block location and used the 67-72 small block engine mounts?

I knew the headers were gonna be a sticky fitment problem but from what I had learned before ordering these headers, there was not much info out there on what would work.

If you think the 86022's are the definite way to go, I have plenty of time to ship them back and get those. Thanks for any additional input.

*Randy70C-10* · 11-17-2002, 10:45 AM

That motor won't fit in your truck. I can take it off you hands, pretty sure it will fit in my truck.

Very nice!!

breeh · 11-17-2002, 11:43 AM

Jason, that is a factory BB shroud for a 2wd truck (67-72).

**jerry moss** · 11-17-2002, 01:34 PM

Yukon,
that looks awesome, you're gonna have a wild ride with that beast under the hood.
if you can't find the later crossmember locally, give bill at vintage chevy truck out here in calif a call- 510-651-5874. he's not cheap but usually has whatever parts you need. his inventory changes on a daily basis so if he doesn't have it today, he might have it in a day or two. he's a good friend of mine and normally gives my buddies a little better deal on parts so feel free to use my name if you wish.
keep us posted on your progress.

11-15-2002, 10:45 AM	#1
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	My 454 doing a little posing With the help of Blazerboy and Barn9 we got the old manifold off and couldn't pass up sitting some of the goodies on the engine for a poser pic! So glad I painted it. Oil pan is next. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

11-15-2002, 10:53 AM	#2
Capitol68 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Austin,Tx Posts: 327	Very pretty horsey pose there ! __________________ '68 Fleet LWB orig 307 .030 over GM Hei/w Accel Super coil orig. stock TH 400. _______________________ “What we do for ourselves dies with us. What we do for others and the world remains and is immortal.” Albert Pine English author d.1851

11-15-2002, 11:32 AM	#3
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,728	I feel like a proud Papa! Looks good Mark, I'm glad you liked my recommendations. Can't wait to get my Performer and get my 427 rebuilt! __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

11-15-2002, 11:34 AM	#4
Mudder Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: East Central, MO Posts: 11,336	Looking! Very good Jack! Those valve covers are tuff!

11-15-2002, 12:05 PM	#5
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	LOVE THOSE VALVE COVERS!! __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

11-15-2002, 12:15 PM	#6
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Thanks for all the kind words. I'm so glad I was talked into cleaning and painting the engine. The valve covers have 454 stickers to go on them and were just $98 from Scoggin Dickey - now down to $90. That's pretty cheap for aluminum. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

11-15-2002, 09:23 PM	#7
BLAZERMAN Currently Blazerless Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: St. Joseph Mo. Posts: 4,828	Looking real SHARP!! thanks for the new wallpaper. __________________ 1972 C/30 133" W.B. C&C 1970 GMC 3500 157" W.B. single wheel C&C

11-15-2002, 11:12 PM	#8
GMC71k20 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: mass Posts: 1,277	what kind of headers are those? ive heard that other BB 4x trucks have problem with headers and the front driveshaft

11-15-2002, 11:36 PM	#9
breeh Recovering 67-72 Addict Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,788	I am curious about how those headers will fit as well. I just went through the process of putting a BB in my 4x4 and the clearance was tight on the right side. I used factory manifolds. __________________ 68 Short Fleet 4x4; 427; BTO Level 3 700R4; NP205; Dana 60 front and rear; 4" lift with 35's; Disc brakes; AGR variable ratio steering; factory bucket seats; factory tach and tilt. "Friends call me cruzer cuz I like fast cars and fast women"

11-16-2002, 12:39 AM	#10
>X< registered IWATA user Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Baton Rouge Posts: 4,481	nice, thats the first time i've seen those valve covers on motor, they're bad ass, might get some myself, especially at that price. when you get an air cleaner that big-to make it fit do you just change out the air cleaner stud to a longer one? __________________ -'63 Ford Fairlane 500 coupe, v8, auto, faded and rusty. awaiting built roller 302 and some flat black -'99 Honda Prelude. vtech/5spd. no pipe, no intake, bone stock. awaiting new top end. -01 GMC Yukon SLT 5.3 dented and scratched with a noisy tranny. Take off that Von Dutch hat before i stab you with a 000 Mack.

11-16-2002, 12:46 AM	#11
Project1970 14.1 @ 96MPH Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 2,811	I just cut some threaded rod stock to fit for mine. __________________ Project1970 - LS1 Swap Complete!

11-16-2002, 03:31 PM	#12
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Blazerman - hope my front springs are up to the task, should be with the hd leaves you gave me - didn't know they would actually be put to use for a big block when you gave them to me! The headers are Dynomax Cermacoated that are for the 73-up 4x4. I'm just gonna have to see how they work out. I will think positive and maybe get lucky! Breeh - what clearance problems did you run in to - just curious of what to expect. I still might try to find a 73-87 engine cross member and towers as that appears to help on the header issues. Checked around the local salvage yards by phone with no luck yesterday. Oh, Blazerman - sorry there isn't a pretty background for the pic rather than my junkie barn! Maybe I will have to roll it outside or something. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

11-16-2002, 11:38 PM	#13
Mike C Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Austin, TX, USA Posts: 7,728	I have heard the best headers for the 4x4 truck are 66-67 Chevelle big block headers, but I cannot confirm. __________________ 44 Willys MB 52 M38A1 64 Corvette Coupe 68 Camaro 'vert LT1 & TH700 69 Z/28 355 12.6's @110 69 Chevy Short Step 4 1/2"/7" drop 72 Jimmy 4WD 4spd 4" & 35's 02 GMC 2500HD 4x4 Duramax

11-17-2002, 12:17 AM	#14
Danny69' Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 93	Looks pretty sweet... Love the background too.. J/K.. __________________ 1969' LWB [Work in Progress]

11-17-2002, 12:41 AM	#15
breeh Recovering 67-72 Addict Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,788	I was going to try using a set of Hooker Super Comps for first gen Camaros and there was no way they would fit. I had to trim about a 1/4" from the frame rail on the passenger side to get factory manifolds to fit. I slid the motor forward about 1 1/2" to accomadate the 700R4 and to give myself some more HEI clearance but I don't know how this would affect header clearance. Anyway, if yours fit I would love to know. Attached Images __________________ 68 Short Fleet 4x4; 427; BTO Level 3 700R4; NP205; Dana 60 front and rear; 4" lift with 35's; Disc brakes; AGR variable ratio steering; factory bucket seats; factory tach and tilt. "Friends call me cruzer cuz I like fast cars and fast women"



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11-17-2002, 12:42 AM	#16
breeh Recovering 67-72 Addict Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,788	Here is the engine in the bay.... Attached Images __________________ 68 Short Fleet 4x4; 427; BTO Level 3 700R4; NP205; Dana 60 front and rear; 4" lift with 35's; Disc brakes; AGR variable ratio steering; factory bucket seats; factory tach and tilt. "Friends call me cruzer cuz I like fast cars and fast women"

11-17-2002, 01:31 AM	#17
Mudhuny Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Tieton, Wa. USA Posts: 9	I just put a big block (454) in my 72 4x4, and am wondering what fan shroud you used? I've been looking for one, but haven't found one that will work. Thanks. Jason

11-17-2002, 03:02 AM	#18
Fred T Cantankerous Geezer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Bel Aire, KS Posts: 6,264	Jack, if you'll tell me where you live near Rose Hill, I'll come down tomorrow and help you install that engine in my truck. Lookin good, man. __________________ Fred There is no such thing as too much cam...just not enough engine.

11-17-2002, 03:55 AM	#19
barn9 Half a bubble off! Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Winfield, Ks, USA Posts: 5,588	LOL Fred!! I think you're gonna have to go the back of the line! LOL! Hey Mark, I seem to remember someone else talking about using the Chevelle headers on the 4x4's, might be worth posting on the subject. Let me know about progress, etc. Cya! __________________ Just call me LB. '71 Cheyenne, 402BB, hauls blondes, brunettes, or redheads.

11-17-2002, 09:22 AM	#20
MOTHERTRUCKERS Registered User Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: BRADENTON FLA Posts: 3,269	Dynamax headers part# 86022 fit very good on big block 4x4 trucks. We have sold many sets without complaints on fitting and installed them on 6 or 7 trucks in our shop in the last year. Send me the motor and i'll test fit it and make sure it goes thru a correct break- in period for you, send 2 sets of fresh tires with it along with extra drivetrain parts. __________________ Rest in Peace Ed. Thanks for all the good times.

11-17-2002, 09:39 AM	#21
nitor Too many projects Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Morrow, OH Posts: 344	Very pretty engine. __________________ Jim '55 Chevrolet Pickup '56 Chevrolet Belair '04 Chevrolet Astro '95 Chevrolet Blazer

11-17-2002, 10:33 AM	#22
Yukon Jack Post Whore Join Date: Feb 2000 Location: Rose Hill, KS, USA Posts: 12,686	Ed, the ones I bought are for 73-87 BB-Chevy 4WD (1/2 and 3/4 ton only), part no. 86089. They were a shot in the dark hope that they will work + I am giving some consideration to trying to pick up a 73-87 engine crossmember and towers as I have read that helps with header options. So far haven't found any local or on the 73-87 parts board. On the big blocks you have installed, have you generally left the engine in the small block location and used the 67-72 small block engine mounts? I knew the headers were gonna be a sticky fitment problem but from what I had learned before ordering these headers, there was not much info out there on what would work. If you think the 86022's are the definite way to go, I have plenty of time to ship them back and get those. Thanks for any additional input. __________________ 1970 Blazer with a 400 sbc and 4" lift 1980 Pontiac Trans Am, 455 Oldsmobile 2012 Kawasaki Concours 14

11-17-2002, 10:45 AM	#23
Randy70C-10 Account Suspended Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Virginia Beach, Va. U.S.A. Posts: 15,320	That motor won't fit in your truck. I can take it off you hands, pretty sure it will fit in my truck. Very nice!!

11-17-2002, 11:43 AM	#24
breeh Recovering 67-72 Addict Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: North Bend, WA Posts: 1,788	Jason, that is a factory BB shroud for a 2wd truck (67-72). __________________ 68 Short Fleet 4x4; 427; BTO Level 3 700R4; NP205; Dana 60 front and rear; 4" lift with 35's; Disc brakes; AGR variable ratio steering; factory bucket seats; factory tach and tilt. "Friends call me cruzer cuz I like fast cars and fast women"

11-17-2002, 01:34 PM	#25
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,947	Yukon, that looks awesome, you're gonna have a wild ride with that beast under the hood. if you can't find the later crossmember locally, give bill at vintage chevy truck out here in calif a call- 510-651-5874. he's not cheap but usually has whatever parts you need. his inventory changes on a daily basis so if he doesn't have it today, he might have it in a day or two. he's a good friend of mine and normally gives my buddies a little better deal on parts so feel free to use my name if you wish. keep us posted on your progress. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

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