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Travis K · 01-11-2009, 07:23 PM

I am going to attempt to shave my cowl this week, and I was wondering if anyone had any tips or a link to a decent write up on the process. I do have a spare cowl in case I really mess it up. I know about all of the heat/warping issues. My concern is how to get the compound curves into the panel. The cowl slopes down towards the sides of the truck, and it curves up toward the windshield. I messed around a little with making the filler panel, but everytime I would get the panel curved correctly in one direction it would pop out or crease when I tried to form it in the other direction.

drewdude92 · 01-11-2009, 08:00 PM

i would like to know this also but i have two extras =) haha

*OBTG62* · 01-11-2009, 08:04 PM

Call this guy, he has radio delete dash and cowls panels; 865-654-2992

**LockDoc** · 01-11-2009, 08:31 PM

I guess I get lots of tries... I have ten of them. And yes, I am trying to corner the market..

LockDoc

VA72C10 · 01-11-2009, 09:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Travis K

I am going to attempt to shave my cowl this week, and I was wondering if anyone had any tips or a link to a decent write up on the process. I do have a spare cowl in case I really mess it up. I know about all of the heat/warping issues. My concern is how to get the compound curves into the panel. The cowl slopes down towards the sides of the truck, and it curves up toward the windshield. I messed around a little with making the filler panel, but everytime I would get the panel curved correctly in one direction it would pop out or crease when I tried to form it in the other direction.

Scotts hot rods makes formed patch panels to insert, but they're not cheap because of the work involved.

*MonteSS454* · 01-11-2009, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockDoc

I guess I get lots of tries... I have ten of them. And yes, I am trying to corner the market..

LockDoc

You've got to buy alot more to even think of cornering the cowl market :P

mycool72 · 01-11-2009, 09:45 PM

Im plannin on doin mine with fiberglass. I'll prob make a solid piece at the back then glass in the holes. I'll finish it with a very light coat of filler........

yotaforce · 01-11-2009, 10:06 PM

Instead of making a solid piece patch panel for each opening, make two or three smaller, easier to bend and manipulate panels to fill it in. It is also better (when possible) to weld the panels in while the cowl is bolted securely on the truck because it will help keep it from twisting or warping on a large scale while welding. I did one once off the truck and it turned out great, but when I went to bolt it back in, it was twisted just enough that there was metal tension that I was not comfortable with once it was installed.

**Hart_Rod** · 01-11-2009, 10:24 PM

This is the one ROKCRWLN built for me...
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Andy4639 · 01-12-2009, 08:49 AM

Hart_Rod,

Wow!!!!

ROKCRWLN,
Wow that is nice work! I have a ? for you though. Where do you get the fresh air at now when the vent's inside the truck are open. Could you cut opening below the hood line and let air in.
I had a old cowl that was louvered like my hood but it cracked and I left it off this last time I redid the truck. The body guy said it wasn't worth fixing. I should have saved it and played with it myself.

**special-K** · 01-12-2009, 09:03 AM

I have a question.When did filling become shaving?Shaving is removing/smoothing body protrusions and parts like door handles.It has to stick out to be shaved,right?I guess smoothing covers both.

bobbo · 01-12-2009, 09:16 AM

Here's my spare that kyull67 is doing for me, he may be able to give some pointers...

**LockDoc** · 01-12-2009, 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbo

Here's my spare that kyull67 is doing for me, he may be able to give some pointers...

That's lookin' good Robert. I'm going to try one here shortly.

LockDoc

yotaforce · 01-12-2009, 06:32 PM

Fresh air???? Open a window! Sure beats all of the leaves and junk that causes the lower corners to rust out! I shaved my inner vents as well!

thebrown83 · 01-12-2009, 06:50 PM

Here is an article in sport truck on the subject.

http://www.sporttruck.com/techarticl...owl/index.html

C20-67_N_MO · 01-12-2009, 06:51 PM

So who can I send mine to to have em work it over?

Let me know cuz thats about what I want as well, NO MO DEBRIS in there!

LUV2XCLR8 · 01-12-2009, 06:55 PM

I bought one already done, kinda pricey but I wanted a total shave

(Mine's GLASS, has NO vents and NO wiper holes either)

Andy4639 · 01-12-2009, 07:40 PM

I understand the debri issue but that is taken care of with screen or the grille to go inside the cowl. I have the screen inside mine

Mondo · 01-12-2009, 08:27 PM

My cowl is fiberglass and I got it from Tony Gonzalez ( mgtp001@gmail.com )

Great fit and a lot less hassle... throw some paint on it and bolt it down.

Only hard part I found is removing the wiper arms as you can't really use the cowl to help work them off. But other than that, piece of cake.

Andy4639 · 01-12-2009, 08:59 PM

That is nice. I like that!

Travis K · 01-14-2009, 01:19 AM

Thanks for all of the input given so far. Seeing the pictures brings me to ask if people are just welding flat panels in place of the vents, or are they actually forming the metal to match the contoures. I want to make the patch(probably in a few sections), and make sure that it will fit in perfect before I even weld it in. I just get the feeling that if you tack it down, and the pry the patch in to get it tacked a couple inches further down, you are adding a lot of tension into the panel.

Travis K · 01-14-2009, 01:25 AM

Maybe we could have Rokcawlin to do a write up for us on how to make the patch and install it. I know he also filled the vent of Project LEMON DROP. I am watching his posts and websites just hoping that he will eventually put out some discs so we can watch him do his magic and hopefully learn from him. He has been my inspiration to me to not be afraid, and just jump into sheetmetal work. I have been doind fairly well so far, but throwing that compound curve in from the cowl is moving into an area that I have not tackled yet.

b&a72 · 01-14-2009, 12:21 PM

Hey Mondo is he a member here or have a website?

LUV2XCLR8 · 01-14-2009, 04:06 PM

Mine also came from Tony G. (Looks like Mondo's but w/out Wiper holes)

longhorn70gmc · 01-14-2009, 07:22 PM

That is really nice!!!! Does it cause any issues with anything?

01-11-2009, 07:23 PM	#1
Travis K Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 81	Shaved Cowl I am going to attempt to shave my cowl this week, and I was wondering if anyone had any tips or a link to a decent write up on the process. I do have a spare cowl in case I really mess it up. I know about all of the heat/warping issues. My concern is how to get the compound curves into the panel. The cowl slopes down towards the sides of the truck, and it curves up toward the windshield. I messed around a little with making the filler panel, but everytime I would get the panel curved correctly in one direction it would pop out or crease when I tried to form it in the other direction.

01-11-2009, 08:00 PM	#2
drewdude92 72 chevys 4 life Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Crescent,Ok Posts: 406	Re: Shaved Cowl i would like to know this also but i have two extras =) haha __________________ I dont call it being young and dumb....I call it young and havin fun

01-11-2009, 08:04 PM	#3
OBTG62 Account Suspended Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Knoxville, Tn. Posts: 63	Re: Shaved Cowl Call this guy, he has radio delete dash and cowls panels; 865-654-2992

01-11-2009, 08:31 PM	#4
LockDoc The Older Generation Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Montezuma, Iowa Posts: 25,649	Re: Shaved Cowl I guess I get lots of tries... I have ten of them. And yes, I am trying to corner the market.. LockDoc __________________ Leon Locksmith, Specializing In Antique Trucks, Automobiles, & Motorcycles (My Dually Pickup Project Thread) http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=829820 - Last edited by LockDoc; 01-11-2009 at 08:32 PM.

01-11-2009, 09:45 PM	#7
mycool72 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Mansfield, TX Posts: 309	Re: Shaved Cowl Im plannin on doin mine with fiberglass. I'll prob make a solid piece at the back then glass in the holes. I'll finish it with a very light coat of filler........

01-11-2009, 10:06 PM	#8
yotaforce Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 89	Re: Shaved Cowl Instead of making a solid piece patch panel for each opening, make two or three smaller, easier to bend and manipulate panels to fill it in. It is also better (when possible) to weld the panels in while the cowl is bolted securely on the truck because it will help keep it from twisting or warping on a large scale while welding. I did one once off the truck and it turned out great, but when I went to bolt it back in, it was twisted just enough that there was metal tension that I was not comfortable with once it was installed. Last edited by yotaforce; 01-11-2009 at 10:06 PM.

01-11-2009, 10:24 PM	#9
Hart_Rod ************* Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Pensacola, FL Posts: 17,859	Re: Shaved Cowl This is the one ROKCRWLN built for me... . Attached Images __________________ Rob - https://www.instagram.com/hart_rod_c10 As Iron Sharpens Iron, So One Man Sharpens Another. Proverbs 27:17 FOR SALE: DBW pedal bracket - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=651123 FOR SALE: Hood Brackets http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=679945 1987 Silverado SWB - 34.5K original miles http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=801834 1969 SuperBurb - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=200387 1968 Farm truck - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=358692 1968 SWB - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=551258 1948 Chevy - http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=122164&page=3

01-12-2009, 08:49 AM	#10
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Shaved Cowl Hart_Rod, Wow!!!! ROKCRWLN, Wow that is nice work! I have a ? for you though. Where do you get the fresh air at now when the vent's inside the truck are open. Could you cut opening below the hood line and let air in. I had a old cowl that was louvered like my hood but it cracked and I left it off this last time I redid the truck. The body guy said it wasn't worth fixing. I should have saved it and played with it myself. __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

01-12-2009, 09:03 AM	#11
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,852	Re: Shaved Cowl I have a question.When did filling become shaving?Shaving is removing/smoothing body protrusions and parts like door handles.It has to stick out to be shaved,right?I guess smoothing covers both. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~ Last edited by special-K; 01-12-2009 at 09:21 AM.

01-12-2009, 09:16 AM	#12
bobbo Droppin' It Like It's Hot! Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Battlefield, Missouri Posts: 2,934	Re: Shaved Cowl Here's my spare that kyull67 is doing for me, he may be able to give some pointers... Attached Images __________________ Robert Life Member RIP CAROL JANICE HARTMAN. BELOVED MOTHER. 01/04/53 - 03/05/09 1969 1500 Norwood, MO 2007 Big Sandy, TN 2008 Had nothing to do with the forklift! Kirkwood, MO (Midwest Meet 2009) Midwest All Truck Nationals, KCMO - 2008 - 2009 - 2010 - 2012 - 2014 SUPPORT THE SITE HERE!

01-12-2009, 06:32 PM	#14
yotaforce Registered User Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Rutherfordton, NC Posts: 89	Re: Shaved Cowl Fresh air???? Open a window! Sure beats all of the leaves and junk that causes the lower corners to rust out! I shaved my inner vents as well!

01-12-2009, 06:50 PM	#15
thebrown83 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Kingfisher OK Posts: 176	Re: Shaved Cowl Here is an article in sport truck on the subject. http://www.sporttruck.com/techarticl...owl/index.html

01-12-2009, 06:51 PM	#16
C20-67_N_MO Champagne Taste on Beer Budget Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: High Ridge, Missouri Posts: 2,190	Re: Shaved Cowl So who can I send mine to to have em work it over? Let me know cuz thats about what I want as well, NO MO DEBRIS in there! __________________ Coming Soon: Project 1970 Country Truck

01-12-2009, 06:55 PM	#17
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,484	Re: Shaved Cowl I bought one already done, kinda pricey but I wanted a total shave (Mine's GLASS, has NO vents and NO wiper holes either) __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

01-12-2009, 07:40 PM	#18
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Shaved Cowl I understand the debri issue but that is taken care of with screen or the grille to go inside the cowl. I have the screen inside mine __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.



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01-12-2009, 08:27 PM	#19
Mondo Registered User Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Bakersfield, Ca Posts: 538	Re: Shaved Cowl My cowl is fiberglass and I got it from Tony Gonzalez ( mgtp001@gmail.com ) Great fit and a lot less hassle... throw some paint on it and bolt it down. Only hard part I found is removing the wiper arms as you can't really use the cowl to help work them off. But other than that, piece of cake. Attached Images

01-12-2009, 08:59 PM	#20
Andy4639 Old member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Liberty, & Garden City S.C. , U.S. Posts: 19,945	Re: Shaved Cowl That is nice. I like that! __________________ 1971 LWB Custom, 6.0LS & 4L80E, Speedhut.com GPS speedometer & gauges with A/C. 20" Boss 338's Grey wheels 4 wheel disc brakes. My Driver Seeing the USA in a 71 Upstate SC GM Truck Club 2013,14 and 2016 Hot Rod Pour Tour http://upstategmtrucks.com/ Get out and drive the truck this summer and have some fun! It sucks not being able to hear! LWB trucks rule, if you don't think so measure your SWB! After talking to tech support at Air Lift I have found out that the kit I need is 60811. Per the measurements I gave them. Ride height of truck inside spring and inside diameter of springs.

01-14-2009, 01:19 AM	#21
Travis K Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 81	Re: Shaved Cowl Thanks for all of the input given so far. Seeing the pictures brings me to ask if people are just welding flat panels in place of the vents, or are they actually forming the metal to match the contoures. I want to make the patch(probably in a few sections), and make sure that it will fit in perfect before I even weld it in. I just get the feeling that if you tack it down, and the pry the patch in to get it tacked a couple inches further down, you are adding a lot of tension into the panel.

01-14-2009, 01:25 AM	#22
Travis K Registered User Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bismarck, ND Posts: 81	Re: Shaved Cowl Maybe we could have Rokcawlin to do a write up for us on how to make the patch and install it. I know he also filled the vent of Project LEMON DROP. I am watching his posts and websites just hoping that he will eventually put out some discs so we can watch him do his magic and hopefully learn from him. He has been my inspiration to me to not be afraid, and just jump into sheetmetal work. I have been doind fairly well so far, but throwing that compound curve in from the cowl is moving into an area that I have not tackled yet.

01-14-2009, 12:21 PM	#23
b&a72 Active Member Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Mesa, AZ Posts: 682	Re: Shaved Cowl Hey Mondo is he a member here or have a website?

01-14-2009, 04:06 PM	#24
LUV2XCLR8 The LuvShack Garage Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Maple Grove, TN (West Side) Posts: 30,484	Re: Shaved Cowl Mine also came from Tony G. (Looks like Mondo's but w/out Wiper holes) __________________ Owner/Op: "TN Classic Transport Carriers" The Toy: "Square Vette" 72 Hybrid Blazer Toy Barn: "LuvShack" 40 x 60 x 20 Shop Tow Piggy:"Maddy" 88 Silverado 3500 Hauler: "Feathers" 14 Aluma 8218T

01-14-2009, 07:22 PM	#25
longhorn70gmc Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Ridgecrest. CA, USA Posts: 1,715	Re: Shaved Cowl That is really nice!!!! Does it cause any issues with anything? __________________ Billy 1970 GMC Sierra Grande 402/TH400 (Longhorn)14 years and counting rebuild! 1975 (Build) Chevrolet SWB 4X4 350 SB Lifted 6 inches 1970 Ford F250 Ranger 390 BB 2010 Ford Super Duty F250 XLT W/4 inch lift kit and Pro Comp Tires Hub Cap Freak! *I need another truck like I need another hole in the head!* I'M IN THE MARKET...AS IT WERE!

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