Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

**leddzepp** · 02-08-2009, 04:54 AM

I picked up this column locally, and PO cannot remember what it came out of. The stering wheel was a factory black one, as would be on a truck or van. The center horn cap was missing though. I think it is out of a truck, as the neutral safety switch looks to be in the right spot, and I do not think the shaft has been collapsed. The rubber boots look like they are from our trucks also, and the U-shaped plug matches. It looks like it will match up to the non-tilt column I have in my C-20 now. I have power steering already...will this match up to the lower steering shaft already there with the non-tilt?
Also, the hazard switch is red (haven't seen that before on a tilt), and there is a cruise control turn signal lever on it. Is this from a factory cruise set-up? Thanks.

**leddzepp** · 02-08-2009, 04:55 AM

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JimKshortstep4x4 · 02-08-2009, 06:44 AM

The column will fit your truck with no issues with the steering shaft.

I have not seen a red flasher button on these tilts. I have picked up a couple of Van tilts with the cruise handles on them so the truck tilts like yours could have come with the cruise.

Good find!

Jim

**1970cstblazer** · 02-08-2009, 09:54 AM

Looks like a real truck tilt to me.

Longhorn Man · 02-08-2009, 10:06 AM

real truck tilt
cant explain the 4 way button
the cruise switch is a replacement for the broken original, it is a common generic GM piece used all through the 70's

**1970cstblazer** · 02-08-2009, 10:10 AM

Most of the Pontiac models (non column dimmer)used that turn signal lever when optioned with cruise.

70Custom10Nut · 02-08-2009, 10:12 AM

It's a truck column alright. The van column has a larger mounting plate at the firewall and the column housing is much shorter. I believe chevy used the red hazard knob up to 70 and then went to the black with the set screw (though I could be wrong) The cruise is what really has me intrigued. I've never seen one on this year group column, it could have been a dealer installed option. Cnut

chipflyer · 02-08-2009, 10:19 AM

The cruise switch is exactly what Longhorn man said it is. You can find that lever/switch in certain GM cars and trucks up until around 1976. It isn't original to 67-72 trucks. The column looks to be a truck column to me.

71 super · 02-08-2009, 12:15 PM

Truck column, switch has been changed out (cruise- stock replacement- if buying new now about $180 bucks) the turn signal switch looks like it may have been changed out at some point to explain the red hazzard knob.

**leddzepp** · 02-08-2009, 06:21 PM

Thanks for all the info guys! I will be putting this column in my C-20 tonight. I will not be putting cruise in it, so hopefully I can sell the switch.

463 · 02-08-2009, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

real truck tilt
cant explain the 4 way button
the cruise switch is a replacement for the broken original, it is a common generic GM piece used all through the 70's

in the Canadian trucks up to 1972 had a red or fade to orange 4 way button,as did some of the 1970-2 USA built gmc trucks i had (explained the USA built 1970 gmc 1/2 ton came to Canada with a six lug setup and the Canadian built came with a five lug setup) in 1973 gm went to the black two piece 4way button.

**leddzepp** · 02-09-2009, 12:34 PM

I talked to the PO again, and he seems to think this column may have come out of a 1970 CST. I did some research, and it seems that the red button came on trucks up till 1970? I pulled it apart, and it looks like it has been there for 40 years.

ERASER5 · 02-09-2009, 01:19 PM

Sell the switch? No way! You need that switch to engage your secret NOS system!

**leddzepp** · 02-09-2009, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ERASER5

Sell the switch? No way! You need that switch to engage your secret NOS system!

Now that's a great idea! I am going to sell it to fund other parts needs....here is a link to my WIW thread, thanks. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...22#post3133922

**68350** · 02-09-2009, 04:08 PM

another easy way is the plug in. van are straight while trucks are curved.

**leddzepp** · 02-09-2009, 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68350

another easy way is the plug in. van are straight while trucks are curved.

This is true, but the plugs can be swapped out fairly easy.

Longhorn Man · 02-09-2009, 04:39 PM

early van units were curved on the plug, so that's not a 100% sure fire way to tell.

I've never heard that disc brakes came in canadian 1970 trucks... no documentation, nor photographic proof. You sure yours wasn't swapped out?

truckintexas · 02-12-2009, 03:57 PM

It's definitely a truck column and the red 4-way pull indicates it could be from a 70 Model. My 70 CST had the same column.

02-08-2009, 04:54 AM	#1
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,023	Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? I picked up this column locally, and PO cannot remember what it came out of. The stering wheel was a factory black one, as would be on a truck or van. The center horn cap was missing though. I think it is out of a truck, as the neutral safety switch looks to be in the right spot, and I do not think the shaft has been collapsed. The rubber boots look like they are from our trucks also, and the U-shaped plug matches. It looks like it will match up to the non-tilt column I have in my C-20 now. I have power steering already...will this match up to the lower steering shaft already there with the non-tilt? Also, the hazard switch is red (haven't seen that before on a tilt), and there is a cruise control turn signal lever on it. Is this from a factory cruise set-up? Thanks. Attached Images

02-08-2009, 04:55 AM	#2
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,023	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? pic Attached Images

02-08-2009, 06:44 AM	#3
JimKshortstep4x4 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Muskegon,MI,USA Posts: 6,026	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? The column will fit your truck with no issues with the steering shaft. I have not seen a red flasher button on these tilts. I have picked up a couple of Van tilts with the cruise handles on them so the truck tilts like yours could have come with the cruise. Good find! Jim __________________ 1971 Shortbox step side 4x4, 350 sbc, 3:07 rear end 1965 Impala SS 400 sbc, Muncie rock crusher 1966 Impala SS 396 bbc, TH 400 1969 El Camino, 350 sbc, TH 350 1971 Snowplow built on a Blazer frame 1972 GMC Short bed, stepside, TH 400, 427 BBC

02-08-2009, 09:54 AM	#4
1970cstblazer All stock and staying that way Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elkland, PA Posts: 1,692	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? Looks like a real truck tilt to me. __________________ 1970 K/5 Blazer CST 4WD, Medium Bronze, 93k ACT. miles, 350, 4 speed, rear positraction, 16.5" x 8.25" HD wheel option, tilt, tach, vacuum, AM/FM, manual throttle...Dad ordered and purchased new 4/70. Currently frame off restoration finally getting close to completion.. 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 2WD, DK Blue/White, 90K ACT. miles, 402, TH400, 4.10 open, tilt, tach, vacuum, A/C, AM/FM, manual throttle.. A mostly original paint never rusted Texas survivor... 2017 Sierra 1500 SLT 4WD, Black, 45k miles, 5.3, 6L80E, 3.42 LS, 20" polished wheels, everything but moonroof and 6.2... 2019 Canyon SLT 4WD, White, 62k miles, 3.6, 8L45, 3.23 LS, 18" wheels

02-08-2009, 10:06 AM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? real truck tilt cant explain the 4 way button the cruise switch is a replacement for the broken original, it is a common generic GM piece used all through the 70's

02-08-2009, 10:10 AM	#6
1970cstblazer All stock and staying that way Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Elkland, PA Posts: 1,692	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? Most of the Pontiac models (non column dimmer)used that turn signal lever when optioned with cruise. __________________ 1970 K/5 Blazer CST 4WD, Medium Bronze, 93k ACT. miles, 350, 4 speed, rear positraction, 16.5" x 8.25" HD wheel option, tilt, tach, vacuum, AM/FM, manual throttle...Dad ordered and purchased new 4/70. Currently frame off restoration finally getting close to completion.. 1972 Cheyenne Super 20 2WD, DK Blue/White, 90K ACT. miles, 402, TH400, 4.10 open, tilt, tach, vacuum, A/C, AM/FM, manual throttle.. A mostly original paint never rusted Texas survivor... 2017 Sierra 1500 SLT 4WD, Black, 45k miles, 5.3, 6L80E, 3.42 LS, 20" polished wheels, everything but moonroof and 6.2... 2019 Canyon SLT 4WD, White, 62k miles, 3.6, 8L45, 3.23 LS, 18" wheels

02-08-2009, 10:12 AM	#7
70Custom10Nut Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Vilseck Germany (currently) Posts: 317	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? It's a truck column alright. The van column has a larger mounting plate at the firewall and the column housing is much shorter. I believe chevy used the red hazard knob up to 70 and then went to the black with the set screw (though I could be wrong) The cruise is what really has me intrigued. I've never seen one on this year group column, it could have been a dealer installed option. Cnut

02-08-2009, 10:19 AM	#8
chipflyer Registered User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Topeka, Ks Posts: 2,293	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? The cruise switch is exactly what Longhorn man said it is. You can find that lever/switch in certain GM cars and trucks up until around 1976. It isn't original to 67-72 trucks. The column looks to be a truck column to me. __________________ I'm not a pessimist, I'm just optimistic that bad things are going to happen. 1971 Cheyenne Super K10 - tilt, cruise, air, am/fm, tow hooks, factory buckets! 1986 Jeep J10 pickup, - 5.3L Vortec with 4L60e and NP241.

02-08-2009, 12:15 PM	#9
71 super Registered User Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Canton North carolina Posts: 3,080	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? Truck column, switch has been changed out (cruise- stock replacement- if buying new now about $180 bucks) the turn signal switch looks like it may have been changed out at some point to explain the red hazzard knob. __________________ 67 blue step side- bb 68 gold and white swb cst anniversary 68 custom swb hot rod Ls swap 69 swb cst 6 cylinder/ overdrive 69 black/black cst bb swb 70 orange and white cst Canada built truck swb bb 71 black and white super swb bb 71 red and white super swb 72 green and white super swb 4x4 62 nova wagon 400 series Ls swapped 68 Camaro 327/4 speed- 1 owner, original paint 66 Volkswagen bettle 69 auto stick Volkswagen Beetle

02-08-2009, 06:21 PM	#10
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,023	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? Thanks for all the info guys! I will be putting this column in my C-20 tonight. I will not be putting cruise in it, so hopefully I can sell the switch.

02-09-2009, 12:34 PM	#12
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 20,023	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? I talked to the PO again, and he seems to think this column may have come out of a 1970 CST. I did some research, and it seems that the red button came on trucks up till 1970? I pulled it apart, and it looks like it has been there for 40 years.

02-09-2009, 01:19 PM	#13
ERASER5 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Indiana Posts: 4,859	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? Sell the switch? No way! You need that switch to engage your secret NOS system! __________________ '70 GMC C1500 LWB Power disc brakes. WooHoo! Posi 6 Lug Dana 60

02-09-2009, 04:08 PM	#15
68350 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Williston, ND Posts: 2,999	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? another easy way is the plug in. van are straight while trucks are curved. __________________ 68 Chevy CST/10, 50th Anniversary, 327/th400, 373 posi, buckets 68 GMC Shortbox Stepside, 402/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.08 Positraction 69 Chevy Camaro SS, 383, 4 speed, positraction 70 Chevy El Camino SS396, Triple Black, 454/th400, Tach 70 Chevy Shortbox Stepside 4x4, 350/th350, Tilt, Tach, Cab Lights, Bumper Guards, Tow Hooks 70 Chevy 3/4 Longbox, 350/auto, 70k, SURVIVOR 71 Chevy Blazer, CST, 350/auto 71 GMC Sierra K2500, 454, 4 speed, 4.10 posi, 37s 71 Custom/30, Open Road, 350/th400, tilt 72 Chevy Shortbox Fleetside, 496 Stroker/th400, Tilt, Tach, Bucket Seats, 3.42 Posi 72 GMC Sierra Grande 2500. 427/th400, tilt, a/c, tool and stowage, buckets/console, 3.54 posi

02-09-2009, 04:39 PM	#17
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? early van units were curved on the plug, so that's not a 100% sure fire way to tell. I've never heard that disc brakes came in canadian 1970 trucks... no documentation, nor photographic proof. You sure yours wasn't swapped out?

02-12-2009, 03:57 PM	#18
truckintexas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Weatherford, TX Posts: 225	Re: Truck or Van tilt? Cruise Control? It's definitely a truck column and the red 4-way pull indicates it could be from a 70 Model. My 70 CST had the same column.



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