Drum shoe preferances? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

Longhorn Man · 12-28-2002, 03:40 PM

Ok, as the Longhorn is going together, it'll get new front shoes.
I would love to do the carbon fiber thing right now...but it just isn't in the cards.
I'm taking the drums into work and turning them, getting new spring kits and hardware kits, and I hope I won't have to mess with the cylinders...(no puddles after all this time sitting)
So are there any preferances on shoes?
Any I should avoid?
I'm sick of crappy brakes...not going to do it anymore.
Any input would be apreciated.

**68 Stepside** · 12-28-2002, 04:19 PM

why don't you just change the wheel cylinders while you have it all torn down? They're relatively cheap, and it'll save you from having to tear into it for a long while. As far as the pads...I have no recommendations. I have "delayers", just like your GMC

Longhorn Man · 12-28-2002, 04:23 PM

Being a one ton, (probably more expensive...but I'll look into it) the fundage isn't there. Wife is trying to tell me to get tires instead of brakes. She was just looking over my life ins policy too....kinda scary being over insured sometimes.

**68 Stepside** · 12-28-2002, 04:31 PM

ah fu^*......forgot it was a one ton....

**68 Stepside** · 12-28-2002, 04:36 PM

26.99 each at autozone, for the standard rear axle.
38.99 each for the 11,000 lb rear axle (ouch)

They don't list front wheel cylinders...there might not be a difference, I have NFC, but their site says Wheel Cylinder-Rear

Longhorn Man · 12-28-2002, 04:51 PM

Kick Arsse...thanks for the research.

**68 Stepside** · 12-28-2002, 05:44 PM

http://www.partsamerica.com/SelectPa...Wheel+Cylinder

Don't know if that link will work, but Discount Auto/Parts America has a whole bunch of different kinds/brands available....

**68 Stepside** · 12-28-2002, 05:46 PM

Let me correct myself....Advance Auto Parts, Shucks, Kragen, Checker, and Discount Auto parts will have them.

*racedvl* · 12-28-2002, 07:16 PM

Here are the Raybestos part #'s. . . .

Wheel cylinders, front. . . wc19086 left , wc19087 right.
Front shoes. . 248PG
Front hardware. . H7017

Yes I am sick, I have Raybestos books here at home.

68 Suburban · 12-28-2002, 07:25 PM

Did you mean Kevlars aren't in the cards? Save your pennies, they are worth it

25,000 miles and still going strong!

Longhorn Man · 12-28-2002, 07:43 PM

Chris, I ment they are not doable at this point. Trust me...I got rid of a disc brake set up becouse I plan on going to the kevlar.

Lumpy · 12-28-2002, 08:23 PM

Where can you buy these kevlar brake shoes? Thanks...Lumpy

**jerry moss** · 12-28-2002, 08:47 PM

if you can find Bendix shoes i'd take them over raybestos. i have raybestos shoes on my cheyenne super rear axle and in wet,cold weather they lock up until they get warm. i have bendix on another truck and they are consistant no matter what the weather. we use raybestos almost exclusively at work, it's cheaper than bendix, but we get come-backs much more often than when we used bendix. they seem to squeak and grab more often.
i'd definitly do wheel cylinders, there's a better than average chance that one or more will start leaking if you try using your old ones. at work we do wheel cylinders on every brake job we do, it's really cheap insurance.
best of luck.

**ThreeQuarter** · 12-28-2002, 09:02 PM

Lumpy, here's the link to the company that makes the kevlar brake linings.

http://www.praisedynobrake.com

Longhorn Man · 12-28-2002, 10:12 PM

I know I oughta do the cylinders...but I'm trying to get this thing on the road in the next couple weeks...ot at least driveable and my budget is only about 100 bucks.
So I have one saying that Bendix is better...anyone else?

jmil1974 · 12-29-2002, 02:24 AM

I have heard that Bendix and Raybestos are both good, top notch. Can't go wrong either way. If you plan on going PraiseDyno in the next year, just get the cheapies. my .02 if you're absolutley certain .

**PICKMUP** · 12-29-2002, 04:02 AM

The only negative thing I would say is the long life or lifetime shoes that I have used are really hard and do not stop as well as the standard shoes. I guess that is how they make them live...but I don't like them.

*racedvl* · 12-29-2002, 10:46 AM

I work at a wearhouse that sells ALOT of Raybestos brakes, and I mean alot. And the amount of complaints that we get over the amount that we sell, is hardly noticeable. I dunno, no friction in my eyes is perfect, it's the just the nature of the beast. I guess it's really personal choice.

12-28-2002, 03:40 PM	#1
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Drum shoe preferances? Ok, as the Longhorn is going together, it'll get new front shoes. I would love to do the carbon fiber thing right now...but it just isn't in the cards. I'm taking the drums into work and turning them, getting new spring kits and hardware kits, and I hope I won't have to mess with the cylinders...(no puddles after all this time sitting) So are there any preferances on shoes? Any I should avoid? I'm sick of crappy brakes...not going to do it anymore. Any input would be apreciated.

12-28-2002, 04:19 PM	#2
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	why don't you just change the wheel cylinders while you have it all torn down? They're relatively cheap, and it'll save you from having to tear into it for a long while. As far as the pads...I have no recommendations. I have "delayers", just like your GMC __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

12-28-2002, 04:31 PM	#4
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	ah fu^......forgot it was a one ton.... __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay*

12-28-2002, 04:36 PM	#5
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	26.99 each at autozone, for the standard rear axle. 38.99 each for the 11,000 lb rear axle (ouch) They don't list front wheel cylinders...there might not be a difference, I have NFC, but their site says Wheel Cylinder-Rear __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

12-28-2002, 05:44 PM	#7
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	http://www.partsamerica.com/SelectPa...Wheel+Cylinder Don't know if that link will work, but Discount Auto/Parts America has a whole bunch of different kinds/brands available.... __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

12-28-2002, 04:23 PM	#3
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Being a one ton, (probably more expensive...but I'll look into it) the fundage isn't there. Wife is trying to tell me to get tires instead of brakes. She was just looking over my life ins policy too....kinda scary being over insured sometimes.

12-28-2002, 04:51 PM	#6
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Kick Arsse...thanks for the research.

12-28-2002, 05:46 PM	#8
68 Stepside huh? Join Date: May 2000 Location: Washington, Illinois Posts: 5,692	Let me correct myself....Advance Auto Parts, Shucks, Kragen, Checker, and Discount Auto parts will have them. __________________ Someday when I'm lonely, Wishing you weren't so far away, Then I will remember Things we said today. RIP El Jay

12-28-2002, 07:16 PM	#9
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	Here are the Raybestos part #'s. . . . Wheel cylinders, front. . . wc19086 left , wc19087 right. Front shoes. . 248PG Front hardware. . H7017 Yes I am sick, I have Raybestos books here at home.

12-28-2002, 07:25 PM	#10
68 Suburban Registered User Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: From Chicago, Live in Phoenix, AZ Posts: 6,802	Did you mean Kevlars aren't in the cards? Save your pennies, they are worth it 25,000 miles and still going strong!

12-28-2002, 07:43 PM	#11
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	Chris, I ment they are not doable at this point. Trust me...I got rid of a disc brake set up becouse I plan on going to the kevlar.

12-28-2002, 08:23 PM	#12
Lumpy 2 tons of fun Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Central, Ca Posts: 194	Where can you buy these kevlar brake shoes? Thanks...Lumpy __________________ 67 Chevy,Short/Fleet,350,Saginaw 4-Speed,Lowered 4x2,small window,P/S,Edelbrock Intake/Carb,HEI,Gear Drive,Crane Cam 274H Three Rivers, Ca Pics at: http://www.cardomain.com/id/lumpy454

12-28-2002, 08:47 PM	#13
jerry moss Born Psycho Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: brentwood,cal,usa Posts: 4,916	if you can find Bendix shoes i'd take them over raybestos. i have raybestos shoes on my cheyenne super rear axle and in wet,cold weather they lock up until they get warm. i have bendix on another truck and they are consistant no matter what the weather. we use raybestos almost exclusively at work, it's cheaper than bendix, but we get come-backs much more often than when we used bendix. they seem to squeak and grab more often. i'd definitly do wheel cylinders, there's a better than average chance that one or more will start leaking if you try using your old ones. at work we do wheel cylinders on every brake job we do, it's really cheap insurance. best of luck. __________________ jerry moss 72 cheyenne super K20- tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,tow hooks,bumper guards,toolbox,aux. fuel tank,posi front and rear,plus other goodies!!! SOLD 69 suburban K20-tilt,tach,vacuum,speedwarning,buckets,shoulder belts,am/fm,4 inch all spring lift,4 speed, 14 bolt full floater, dana 44 HD,warn winch,posi front and rear,tow hooks,plus other goodies. 73/80 chevy/gmc K20 SB400,turbo 400,205,tilt,a-c,gas hog. 77 K/5 cheyenne blazer-daily driver/beater. SON HAS IT NOW BRENTWOOD,CALIFORNIA

12-28-2002, 09:02 PM	#14
ThreeQuarter Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Texan in Iowa Posts: 2,522	Lumpy, here's the link to the company that makes the kevlar brake linings. http://www.praisedynobrake.com __________________ Ben '68 Chevy C10 Custom LWB 327/TH400 2nd owner '16 GMC Sierra 1500 SLE Dblcab 4wd 5.3

12-28-2002, 10:12 PM	#15
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,693	I know I oughta do the cylinders...but I'm trying to get this thing on the road in the next couple weeks...ot at least driveable and my budget is only about 100 bucks. So I have one saying that Bendix is better...anyone else?



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12-29-2002, 02:24 AM	#16
jmil1974 Ain't we cute? Join Date: May 2002 Location: Friendswood, TX Posts: 700	I have heard that Bendix and Raybestos are both good, top notch. Can't go wrong either way. If you plan on going PraiseDyno in the next year, just get the cheapies. my .02 if you're absolutley certain . __________________ 69 C10 2WD LWB Fleet 350/350 power front disc conversion (6 lug disc kit from gmcpauls) and new engine, PS, A/C, fresh fluids, SHE DRIVES! FOR SALE $3900

12-29-2002, 04:02 AM	#17
PICKMUP "Trucks with Class" Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: OLYMPIA, WA, USA Posts: 8,144	The only negative thing I would say is the long life or lifetime shoes that I have used are really hard and do not stop as well as the standard shoes. I guess that is how they make them live...but I don't like them. __________________ Email: frankeham@comcast.net Phone: 360-956-7170

12-29-2002, 10:46 AM	#18
racedvl Account Suspended Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Woodstock, IL Posts: 7,020	I work at a wearhouse that sells ALOT of Raybestos brakes, and I mean alot. And the amount of complaints that we get over the amount that we sell, is hardly noticeable. I dunno, no friction in my eyes is perfect, it's the just the nature of the beast. I guess it's really personal choice.

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