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Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
I have already finished the brakes, updated to power front discs. Replaced all stainless brake lines and hoses. Rebuilt front suspension. What the truck needs is engine, transmission, and A/c. 350 is tired loses oil pressure after warm up pretty severely. Trans is th400 with leaks everywhere. In the texas heat it needs a/c. It is a factory a/c cab but all components are missing.
Don't know if I should either add new crate motor or rebuild this 350. I would like a overdrive transmission but this would mean different drive shaft different shifter and add more to the build. I could possibly just ditch the 4:10 gears and go with a 3:42 or even 3:08. What do you think? Then where would be the best place to get the A/C kit from and which kit is better? I need to get this thing on the road, I am without a second vehicle right now. The wife's Tahoe is all we have currently other than my company truck.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
If it were me I would sink some dough into the a/c, especially you being it Texas, and go with a used engine and tranny. If you really need it for you second vehicle that is. You could always upgrade the engine/tranny later on down the road if you wanted to but at least it would be on the road. I would like to hear some feedback on the different aftermarket a/c options. I will be doing that to mine eventually.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
I want to do all three things with this money. I am just looking for my best options.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
Vintage Air - $1200
GM Crate 260 HP - $1400 New TH 400 - $750?
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
Where did these prices come from, now i am intrigued. $750 for th400, and the engine where?
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For the A/C I would go with http://www.vintageair.com/index.asp this is the one I will go with when I decide to add A/C to my '67.
But as far as engine and tranny that's a tough choice. Rebuilting your 350 would probably be the best bang for your buck since you want to replace your transmisison as well. Find a good rebuild shop and have them customize the engine for how you are going to use your truck. Good luck and keep us updated! ![]()
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
Prices are actually a little more. I'm pretty sure the GM Crate motor is rated higher then listed. Just some ideas, shop around.
See what you can dig up locally. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-700400/ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-10067353/
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
here's the 290hp version...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/NAL-12499529/ my dad put one in his '84 Heavy Half LWB with a set of 1 5/8's hedman headers and a Q-Jet and it runs very nice - smooth spread of power and no issues, plus you get a warranty. On the gear swap, a professionally set up rear gear swap will cost about as much as swapping in a 700R4 (+/- $1200), just depends on your preference. If you already need a trans, and you decide to swap gears, you're looking at rebuilding the TH400 AND swapping gears. You could just to the OD tranny and leave the rearend alone, plus the low 1st gear in the 700R4 and those 4.10's would be fun with a fresh motor! Wish I could help on the a/c. My '69 is an a/c truck, but it doesn't work and I just have to sweat it out for now!
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
for the engine/trans,I would search through the classifieds in your area and try to find a used car,like a mid 80's Caprice/Impala with maybe under 100000 miles that is currently running .That way you could hear it run and drive it and check it out. Should have an o/d trans,plus you would get all the brackets and a/c parts you would need,along with a lot of smaller parts you could use(like maybe cruise control).When I bought my truck,the previous owner also had an 87 Caprice his father had wrecked that was in excellent running condition with a 305/700R4 trans. I wish I would have bought it and transplanted the drive train into my truck
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
and lose the warranty...
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
If you read the fine print the warranty is only good if the engine is installed by a professional shop. Besides i am a mechanic just not an auto mechanic.
Warranties in my line of work are just a piece of paper the manufacturer throws in the box so you can wipe your butt if you run out of TP, and you can quote me on that. There are so many loop holes to get out of warranties it is not even funny.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
I understand that, just saying.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
290 HP GM 4bolt 350 1600 http://www.sdparts.com/product/10067...350Engine.aspx
Rebuilt 700 R 4 850 You can get factory AC for around 500 for everything
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
what about old air from gmcpauls he has is listed under $1000
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
i got have a idea paypal it too brad.m.good@us.army.mi i will be looking for it in the next day or too
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
I'm not a big fan of that 290HP cam. And it certainly isn't worth $400.
Sounds like you should do a LSx swap.. 5.3? 6.0? |
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
How would I ever afford that on 4500 budget. Now, your talking fuel tank, wiring harness, programming, fuel pump, engine and transmission, exhaust, and I am sure I am forgetting a lot. I wish but it doesn't sound doable, unless you know something I don't.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
I agree with Sinister 100%. The 260 crate from GM is all you need for around town and it will be reliable. I will likely go with that engine when the need arises. Rebuilt might be cheaper but unless you know the rebuilder real well, it could just be a waste of your money. Plus, you may have to pay for shipping. With the GM crate, the dealer should be able to get it for no addl cost. Also, GM should be able to warranty the engine or least help you out more than a rebuilder might. A rebuilt TH400 and convertor from a local rebuilder should be about that much or even less. Vintage Air will be more reliable than the factory a/c and may end up easier to install than trying to piece together a factory system. Go with basic and simple parts and you should be able to make it within your budget. However, don't go with used stuff unless it is something like wheels or valve covers since you want to only have to do this once and have it be correct and reliable.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
Should be able to get the engine/trans for about $2000-2500.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
He wants a motor/tranny and A/C for the $4500.
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Re: Need help spending $4500 on 69 step
check out the link in my sig.
$2k for motor and trans with 16k miles on it. (this being stated b/c you can get a 6.0/6l80 for cheaper and the 5.3/4l60es are even cheaper) $535 for the headers $500 in misc stuff like fuel pump/filter/hose/cooler/etc $300ish is expected for the rest of the exhaust and then there is the DS i assume is going to be $150 or less.
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