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**67OLDSTYLE72** · 09-08-2009, 11:15 PM

Does any one have any documentation on the motorhomes not having a park or the p on the column in a factory sheet or something of that nature ? I have a running bet with a couple of my buddies that dont believe me that my motor home a(1969 Caveman eddition)did not come with park any help would be appreciated thanks in advance Jay

**fine69** · 09-09-2009, 12:28 AM

You are correct. But i dont have any documentation.

My 69 C-30 motorhome didnt have a Park position on the column.

**70cst** · 09-09-2009, 01:30 AM

Ok...where is Andy when we need him????

Longhorn Man · 09-09-2009, 06:16 AM

i've never seen any documentation on the topic... but to this day, most med duty trucks don't have park.

**special-K** · 09-09-2009, 06:31 AM

You can document our actual experience.I had a`70 Custom Camper/30 with no park.It doesn`t have to be a motorhome.The first TH400s installed in the C/30 had the park cog missing and no indicator on column.These were the first time autos were used in C/30s and mostly just in campers.

69GMCLonghorn · 09-09-2009, 11:10 AM

Yeah, Ford tried jumping the gun with putting a Park cog on their heavier duty tranny's in the mid 60's. The problem? IT WOULDN'T STAY IN PARK! It would pop out and, because a lot of people don't set the E-brake, the truck went BYE BYE! In fact, it was so bad, they put a decal in the door jamb that stated the truck may not stay in park, so set the brake! Only Ford...

Long about '69 ish, Ford must have snuck a peak at a Chevy and got it straight...

Longhorn Man · 09-09-2009, 04:11 PM

many of fords autos back then would pop out of park.
The reason any other truck builder makes them like this is the oposite reason, the INability to pull them out of park when on a slight or steep hill. The weight of the vehicle (and everything in it) is all pushing on that pawl and it basicly gets jammed. It's called torque lock. Some cars had issues with this too, I know the Chrysler 80's cars with the 2.2/auto would jam up on even the slightest of hills.

69GMCLonghorn · 09-09-2009, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longhorn Man

many of fords autos back then would pop out of park.
The reason any other truck builder makes them like this is the oposite reason, the INability to pull them out of park when on a slight or steep hill. The weight of the vehicle (and everything in it) is all pushing on that pawl and it basicly gets jammed. It's called torque lock. Some cars had issues with this too, I know the Chrysler 80's cars with the 2.2/auto would jam up on even the slightest of hills.

How could you even GET an 80's Chrysler 2.2/auto on a hill big enough to lock the transmission in Park?? Must've been pointing downhill!!

**kwmech** · 09-09-2009, 07:04 PM

My 69 GMC (was a class B) did not have a parking pawl or the P on the column. Has been since changed

retodd7711 · 09-09-2009, 07:20 PM

Interesting..... Anyone got a picture?
Did the indicator read r-n-d-2-1?

**kwmech** · 09-09-2009, 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by retodd7711

Interesting.....

Did the indicator read r-n-d-2-1?

Yes it did. Tossed out my old column....no pic on that one

sweet70beast · 09-09-2009, 10:56 PM

Are you talking about the van frontend motorhomes or the chassis motorhomes? The tilt column I just put into my 71 came from a chassis MH and it had park.

**67OLDSTYLE72** · 09-10-2009, 12:08 PM

truck front end n thank you all for the help Jay

1972K20 · 05-07-2014, 04:41 PM

Just picked up a 1969 Custom Camper/30 with the motor home. I'll get a pic later, but it doesn't have "park."

69GMCLonghorn · 05-07-2014, 06:01 PM

The other thing that people don't realize (touching back on getting it out of Park on a hill) is with ANY vehicle, it isn't meant to have the vehicle held in place with the parking pawl. The BRAKE is supposed to hold it. I have always set the brake first, THEN throw it in Park, in any vehicle. It takes a whopping 3/4 of a second...

09-08-2009, 11:15 PM	#1
67OLDSTYLE72 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: LEECHBURG,PA.,U.S.A. Posts: 496	motorhome park ? need help Does any one have any documentation on the motorhomes not having a park or the p on the column in a factory sheet or something of that nature ? I have a running bet with a couple of my buddies that dont believe me that my motor home a(1969 Caveman eddition)did not come with park any help would be appreciated thanks in advance Jay __________________ Jay Snyder Leechburg, PA (Northeast of Pittsburgh) 72 Chevy Cheyenne 4x4 camper special #matching '71 Chevy Dually 4x4 '69 Chevy Pro Street swb. '72 Chevy camper special 4x4 402 v8 (not factory) just cool. (truck puller) 70 Chevy swb 400 v8 400 turbo 72 Chevy suburban 4x4, 396 4spd. 68 Chevy shortbed 50th Anv. 327. 72 Chevy 2 wd. Blazer 69 Chevy swb 4x4 327 4spd. 58 Chevy Apache 4x4 swb. 71 Chevy CREW CAB swb 4x4 396 4spd. (just finished) WE BUY AND SALE TRUCKS AND PARTS

09-09-2009, 12:28 AM	#2
fine69 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Urbana,Ohio,USA Posts: 4,618	Re: motorhome park ? need help You are correct. But i dont have any documentation. My 69 C-30 motorhome didnt have a Park position on the column. __________________ 2008 Chevy HHR 1/2 panel. 1949 Chevy Panel truck(just sittin, waiting) Board member #6

09-09-2009, 01:30 AM	#3
70cst Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: New Madison, Ohio Posts: 21,373	Re: motorhome park ? need help Ok...where is Andy when we need him???? __________________ A husband can be right...or...A husband can be happy. 67-72 Chevy and GMC Trucks...The Classic Truck for the Classic Folk. 1970 CST Two tone green, 402BB, 400 Automatic, Tach, Buckets, AC, AM-FM, Tilt, GM CB, GM 8 Tract, LWB, etc JOHN 17:3...The better side of "LIFE" Remember: Everyday is a good day...Some are just gooder!

09-09-2009, 06:16 AM	#4
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: motorhome park ? need help i've never seen any documentation on the topic... but to this day, most med duty trucks don't have park.

09-09-2009, 06:31 AM	#5
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: motorhome park ? need help You can document our actual experience.I had a`70 Custom Camper/30 with no park.It doesn`t have to be a motorhome.The first TH400s installed in the C/30 had the park cog missing and no indicator on column.These were the first time autos were used in C/30s and mostly just in campers. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

09-09-2009, 11:10 AM	#6
69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: motorhome park ? need help Yeah, Ford tried jumping the gun with putting a Park cog on their heavier duty tranny's in the mid 60's. The problem? IT WOULDN'T STAY IN PARK! It would pop out and, because a lot of people don't set the E-brake, the truck went BYE BYE! In fact, it was so bad, they put a decal in the door jamb that stated the truck may not stay in park, so set the brake! Only Ford... Long about '69 ish, Ford must have snuck a peak at a Chevy and got it straight... Last edited by 69GMCLonghorn; 09-09-2009 at 11:10 AM.

09-09-2009, 04:11 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: motorhome park ? need help many of fords autos back then would pop out of park. The reason any other truck builder makes them like this is the oposite reason, the INability to pull them out of park when on a slight or steep hill. The weight of the vehicle (and everything in it) is all pushing on that pawl and it basicly gets jammed. It's called torque lock. Some cars had issues with this too, I know the Chrysler 80's cars with the 2.2/auto would jam up on even the slightest of hills.

09-09-2009, 07:04 PM	#9
kwmech Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Colfax-California Posts: 8,630	Re: motorhome park ? need help My 69 GMC (was a class B) did not have a parking pawl or the P on the column. Has been since changed

09-09-2009, 07:20 PM	#10
retodd7711 chrome makes it go FASTER! Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Cleveland Tennessee Posts: 2,884	Re: motorhome park ? need help Interesting..... Anyone got a picture? Did the indicator read r-n-d-2-1? __________________ She can't cook and she won't clean. But she looks good in a skirt and she brings me beer. She can stay for now. EDIT:: But she left me anyway, So forget her. 1962 GMC Stepside V6 4 speed My rolling resto thread http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=324226 My old farm truck http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=1#post3465005

09-09-2009, 10:56 PM	#12
sweet70beast Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Shelley Idaho Posts: 876	Re: motorhome park ? need help Are you talking about the van frontend motorhomes or the chassis motorhomes? The tilt column I just put into my 71 came from a chassis MH and it had park. __________________ 1970 Nova 327/T5 (my 1st car) 1971 K-20 350/350/205 (winter DD) 1953 GMC Suburban 1968 Chevy Bel Air 1976 Chev C-10 1972 Skylark (suncoupe) 1 of 3943 made

09-10-2009, 12:08 PM	#13
67OLDSTYLE72 Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: LEECHBURG,PA.,U.S.A. Posts: 496	Re: motorhome park ? need help truck front end n thank you all for the help Jay __________________ Jay Snyder Leechburg, PA (Northeast of Pittsburgh) 72 Chevy Cheyenne 4x4 camper special #matching '71 Chevy Dually 4x4 '69 Chevy Pro Street swb. '72 Chevy camper special 4x4 402 v8 (not factory) just cool. (truck puller) 70 Chevy swb 400 v8 400 turbo 72 Chevy suburban 4x4, 396 4spd. 68 Chevy shortbed 50th Anv. 327. 72 Chevy 2 wd. Blazer 69 Chevy swb 4x4 327 4spd. 58 Chevy Apache 4x4 swb. 71 Chevy CREW CAB swb 4x4 396 4spd. (just finished) WE BUY AND SALE TRUCKS AND PARTS

05-07-2014, 04:41 PM	#14
1972K20 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alabama Posts: 741	Re: motorhome park ? need help Just picked up a 1969 Custom Camper/30 with the motor home. I'll get a pic later, but it doesn't have "park."

05-07-2014, 06:01 PM	#15
69GMCLonghorn Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Porter Ranch, CA Posts: 978	Re: motorhome park ? need help The other thing that people don't realize (touching back on getting it out of Park on a hill) is with ANY vehicle, it isn't meant to have the vehicle held in place with the parking pawl. The BRAKE is supposed to hold it. I have always set the brake first, THEN throw it in Park, in any vehicle. It takes a whopping 3/4 of a second...

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