Rally Wheel Question...... - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

nicolas72gmc · 11-14-2009, 03:20 AM

Here is the deal, I want to do like Big Al did on his recent wheel change (stagger rallys, with 15x7 up front). I found one rally which I thought was a 15x7, but it measures 6.5" inside bead to inside bead, with a 4" BS. How many different rallys were made? I've seen some on ebay that are 7" inside to inside, but they have a 4.5" BS. I'm just trying to tuck the fronts a little more so I can drop it another inch. Thanks in advance.

big_al_71 · 11-14-2009, 08:00 AM

Hey Nick
I dont know about the measurements or how many different ones are out there but I remember reading about just using two van rallies up front and two truck rallies in the back. Remember that I am trying to trade two van rallies for two truck rallies just in case you want to trade.

The ones I sent you before are 15x8...

Zeke · 11-14-2009, 09:25 AM

I stand corrected. rim width is measured from inside bead. appologize for bad info.

**Boog** · 11-14-2009, 11:26 AM

Sorry Zeke. That's not correct. The industry method of measuring wheel widths is inside bead to inside bead.
This from Coker's site for instance:

http://resources.coker.com/wheel-tec...rim-width.html

Hottrucks · 11-14-2009, 11:48 AM

ok the biq queston is how many holes in your rallies...I thnk I went thru this about a month ago.. heres a pic of my 8" rally I have not SEEn A 7" with this amount of holes...some have more some less....I have 8 of these rims and would gladly swap a couple for a couple 7"

**too much stuff** · 11-14-2009, 12:13 PM

Rims are measured from the inside of the beads. I believe there is a 6.5", 7" and 8". The 8" were generally on trucks from 73 and up.

nicolas72gmc · 11-14-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by big_al_71

Hey Nick
I dont know about the measurements or how many different ones are out there but I remember reading about just using two van rallies up front and two truck rallies in the back. Remember that I am trying to trade two van rallies for two truck rallies just in case you want to trade.

The ones I sent you before are 15x8...

Albert I will keep that in mind, I appreciate it. Albert, would you mind measuring your van rallies when you get a chance? get me the B.S. and inside bead to inside bead. Thanks brotha!

[quote=Boog;3619682]Sorry Zeke. That's not correct. The industry method of measuring wheel widths is inside bead to inside bead.

That is what I thought I remember reading somewhere, that is how I've been measuring them.

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Originally Posted by Hottrucks

ok the biq queston is how many holes in your rallies...I thnk I went thru this about a month ago.. heres a pic of my 8" rally I have not SEEn A 7" with this amount of holes...some have more some less....I have 8 of these rims and would gladly swap a couple for a couple 7"

All of mine have 16 slots.

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Originally Posted by too much stuff

Rims are measured from the inside of the beads. I believe there is a 6.5", 7" and 8". The 8" were generally on trucks from 73 and up.

I definitely have a 6.5" wheel then, Is that a truck rally or a van rally or was there a difference? I ask because of the differences in the backspacing I'm running into.

**leddzepp** · 11-14-2009, 12:52 PM

Van rallyes are 6.5" wide. Truck rallyes are 7" or 8" wide. The size should be stamped on the inside of the wheel.

nicolas72gmc · 11-14-2009, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Van rallyes are 6.5" wide. Truck rallyes are 7" or 8" wide. The size should be stamped on the inside of the wheel.

Sweet.

chevy_mike · 11-14-2009, 02:46 PM

Sorry for the hijack.

Are the trim rings used on the 8" ralleys the same for the 7" ones or do the 7" ones have a narrower trim ring?

**leddzepp** · 11-14-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_mike

Sorry for the hijack.

Are the trim rings used on the 8" ralleys the same for the 7" ones or do the 7" ones have a narrower trim ring?

You can use 2" or 3" trim rings on either wheel. But the 2" look better on the 7" wheels, and the 3" look better on the 8" wheels....IMO

screamin_c10 · 11-14-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by leddzepp

Van rallyes are 6.5" wide. Truck rallyes are 7" or 8" wide. The size should be stamped on the inside of the wheel.

Kinda like this, its on the drum side of the wheel usually under an inch of brake dust and grime.

Tx Firefighter · 11-14-2009, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

ok the biq queston is how many holes in your rallies...I thnk I went thru this about a month ago.. heres a pic of my 8" rally I have not SEEn A 7" with this amount of holes...some have more some less....I have 8 of these rims and would gladly swap a couple for a couple 7"

6 lug rallys have different number of slots than 5 lug rally do.

chevy_mike · 11-14-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leddzepp

You can use 2" or 3" trim rings on either wheel. But the 2" look better on the 7" wheels, and the 3" look better on the 8" wheels....IMO

Thanks. I have someone semi local that would like to trade 2 7" for 2 8" wheels I have but he doesn't have trim ring. I have a full, nice set of 3" wide and didn't want to be hung out trying to find narrow ones to fit. If I can use the 3" wide one all around, I can do that until I found a narrow set.

Thanks for the info!!!

Hottrucks · 11-14-2009, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by chevy_mike

Thanks. I have someone semi local that would like to trade 2 7" for 2 8" wheels I have but he doesn't have trim ring. I have a full, nice set of 3" wide and didn't want to be hung out trying to find narrow ones to fit. If I can use the 3" wide one all around, I can do that until I found a narrow set.

Thanks for the info!!!

I'll trade yea a pair of narrow for a pair of wide.....I'm going to have my rallies cut and have the BS widened to 14" for some pro street tires and would like the wides for the rear fattie's
Jeff

**lolife99** · 11-14-2009, 08:05 PM

There are 2 different style ralleys.

5-lug
15x6.5 (van ralleys)
15x7
15x8

6-lug (like hottrucks has in his picture)
99% of them are 15x8
They do make a 6-lug 15x7,... but they are rare.

chevy_mike · 11-14-2009, 11:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hottrucks

I'll trade yea a pair of narrow for a pair of wide.....I'm going to have my rallies cut and have the BS widened to 14" for some pro street tires and would like the wides for the rear fattie's
Jeff

You're not the first to ask me this and if you were in SoCal, we could do this. I don't want to ship wheels that will cost me as much in shipping as what I paid for the set. The guy I talked to in the past lived in LA area with me in San Diego. We would meet half way to do the trade.

Thanks for asking though.

72BlckButy · 11-15-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by lolife99

There are 2 different style ralleys.

5-lug
15x6.5 (van ralleys)
15x7
15x8

6-lug (like hottrucks has in his picture)
99% of them are 15x8
They do make a 6-lug 15x7,... but they are rare.

Here's a shot of the 15x7 6-lug wheels:

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nicolas72gmc · 11-15-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chevy_mike

Sorry for the hijack.

Are the trim rings used on the 8" ralleys the same for the 7" ones or do the 7" ones have a narrower trim ring?

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Originally Posted by 72BlckButy

Here's a shot of the 15x7 6-lug wheels:

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And a comparison shot of the 15x8 6-lug wheel...

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Nate I found the measurement stamp on the back of the wheel, it reads 7", but when I measure the wheel like you did in the pic it measures 6.5" between the beads. I guess that is what a 7" wheel measures.

**lolife99** · 11-15-2009, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by nicolas72gmc

Nate I found the measurement stamp on the back of the wheel, it reads 7", but when I measure the wheel like you did in the pic it measures 6.5" between the beads. I guess that is what a 7" wheel measures.

Post a pic of your wheel.
The 6.5 wheels have a different offset than the 7's.
Which wheel are you looking for?

nicolas72gmc · 11-16-2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

Post a pic of your wheel.
The 6.5 wheels have a different offset than the 7's.
Which wheel are you looking for?

Lolife, I am looking for another wheel like the one I have already. I was just trying to ed-u-macate myself on these suckers so I could continue to shop with confidence. I'll post a pic real quick like. Thanks bro!

nicolas72gmc · 11-16-2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

Post a pic of your wheel.
The 6.5 wheels have a different offset than the 7's.
Which wheel are you looking for?

Lolife, I am looking for another wheel like the one I have already. I was just trying to ed-u-macate myself on these suckers so I could continue to shop with confidence. I'll post a pic real quick like. Thanks bro!

**lolife99** · 11-16-2009, 12:50 AM

That's a 6.5" van ralley.
If you are unsure,... just do all your shopping with a tape measure.

nicolas72gmc · 11-16-2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lolife99

That's a 6.5" van ralley.
If you are unsure,... just do all your shopping with a tape measure.

Thanks lolife, that is what I figured I would have to do to get a matching wheel. I hope this will tuck it a little more like I want.

jeromio · 12-16-2009, 01:08 AM

I have 6-lug rallies that I believe are 15x7 front and 15x8 rear. Tires are mounted so determining exact width is difficult, however the back spacing (well, "front" spacing) is noticeably different and the rear tires are pretty effin large. Mine are 5 hole - they look more like the car wheels. I'm currently looking for trim rings and it seems like the fronts need 2 1/2 inch deep rings and the rears 3 1/2 inch. I can find 2 1/2, but not 3 1/2. I could be measuring wrong. Pics of the truck are here http://chevy.jeromio.com. Can anyone clarify? What's the proper way to measure for the correct ring size?

11-14-2009, 03:20 AM	#1
nicolas72gmc Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 525	Rally Wheel Question...... Here is the deal, I want to do like Big Al did on his recent wheel change (stagger rallys, with 15x7 up front). I found one rally which I thought was a 15x7, but it measures 6.5" inside bead to inside bead, with a 4" BS. How many different rallys were made? I've seen some on ebay that are 7" inside to inside, but they have a 4.5" BS. I'm just trying to tuck the fronts a little more so I can drop it another inch. Thanks in advance. __________________ Nick "Everyone has a plan, 'till they get punched in the mouth".........Mike Tyson 1968, GMC, SWB, Project 1972, GMC, LWB, Daily Driver, 383, headers, 2.5"/3" exhaust, 200r4, 3.5/5 ECE components. 1972, C/10, LWB, 350 vortec, th350

11-14-2009, 08:00 AM	#2
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... Hey Nick I dont know about the measurements or how many different ones are out there but I remember reading about just using two van rallies up front and two truck rallies in the back. Remember that I am trying to trade two van rallies for two truck rallies just in case you want to trade. The ones I sent you before are 15x8... __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

11-14-2009, 09:25 AM	#3
Zeke Active Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: L.A. Lower Alabama Posts: 453	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... I stand corrected. rim width is measured from inside bead. appologize for bad info. __________________ 1969 C10 350 3spd 1995 GMC 3500 XC 350 dually When Thomas Edison worked late into the night on the electric light, he had to do it by gas lamp or candle. I'm sure it made the work seem that much more urgent. George Carlin Last edited by Zeke; 11-15-2009 at 10:28 AM. Reason: incorrect information

11-14-2009, 11:26 AM	#4
Boog laying low Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Searcy, Ark. USA Posts: 13,136	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... Sorry Zeke. That's not correct. The industry method of measuring wheel widths is inside bead to inside bead. This from Coker's site for instance: http://resources.coker.com/wheel-tec...rim-width.html __________________ Boog 69 Chevy stepside, 358/T350, 4.11 posi, 4.5/4 drop, rallys, poboy driver primer is finer 91 Chevy sportside, Tahoe, Yukon & GMC Crewcab All GM..'nuff said. I stand for the flag and kneel at the cross

11-14-2009, 11:48 AM	#5
Hottrucks Redefining LowBudget Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: lebanon Cow Hampshire Posts: 4,538	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... ok the biq queston is how many holes in your rallies...I thnk I went thru this about a month ago.. heres a pic of my 8" rally I have not SEEn A 7" with this amount of holes...some have more some less....I have 8 of these rims and would gladly swap a couple for a couple 7" Attached Images Last edited by Hottrucks; 11-14-2009 at 11:50 AM.

11-14-2009, 12:13 PM	#6
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,717	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... Rims are measured from the inside of the beads. I believe there is a 6.5", 7" and 8". The 8" were generally on trucks from 73 and up. __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

11-14-2009, 12:52 PM	#8
leddzepp Moderator Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Cal Posts: 19,996	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... Van rallyes are 6.5" wide. Truck rallyes are 7" or 8" wide. The size should be stamped on the inside of the wheel. __________________ 1972 C/10 Cheyenne Super SWB. Restored, loaded, slammed. 1968 C/10 50th Anniversary LWB. Unrestored, stock, daily driver/work truck. RIP ElJay RIP 67ChevyRedneck RIP Grumpy Old Man Last edited by leddzepp; 11-14-2009 at 12:52 PM.

11-14-2009, 02:46 PM	#10
chevy_mike Never Ending Projects Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 3,836	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... Sorry for the hijack. Are the trim rings used on the 8" ralleys the same for the 7" ones or do the 7" ones have a narrower trim ring? __________________ . 1965 C10 Panel, Tiki Express http://www.67-72chevytrucks.com/vboa...d.php?t=506580 SOLD 1968 Chevy C10, Long, Fleetside, Hot Rod Hauler http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=313233 SOLD 1965 Chevy C10, Long, Fleetside, Hot Rod C10 http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=415702 SOLD We were given two ears and one mouth for a reason... listen twice as much and speak half as often...

11-14-2009, 08:05 PM	#16
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,692	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... There are 2 different style ralleys. 5-lug 15x6.5 (van ralleys) 15x7 15x8 6-lug (like hottrucks has in his picture) 99% of them are 15x8 They do make a 6-lug 15x7,... but they are rare. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823

11-16-2009, 12:50 AM	#23
lolife99 67-72 parts collector,… Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Mid-MO Posts: 22,692	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... That's a 6.5" van ralley. If you are unsure,... just do all your shopping with a tape measure. __________________ Keith Convert to disc brakes. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=444823 Last edited by lolife99; 11-16-2009 at 12:50 AM.

12-16-2009, 01:08 AM	#25
jeromio Registered User Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 33	Re: Rally Wheel Question...... I have 6-lug rallies that I believe are 15x7 front and 15x8 rear. Tires are mounted so determining exact width is difficult, however the back spacing (well, "front" spacing) is noticeably different and the rear tires are pretty effin large. Mine are 5 hole - they look more like the car wheels. I'm currently looking for trim rings and it seems like the fronts need 2 1/2 inch deep rings and the rears 3 1/2 inch. I can find 2 1/2, but not 3 1/2. I could be measuring wrong. Pics of the truck are here http://chevy.jeromio.com. Can anyone clarify? What's the proper way to measure for the correct ring size?

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