Engine Shopping - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

lycominghunter · 12-07-2010, 12:07 AM

Well, I'm not too proud of this, but I am in the market for a new motor. I just bought a k20 with a 350 and sm465 the other week and havent gotten to look at it much because I'm at school. Drove it up to my mechanic to get it inspected and to get a good professional opinion and...its been running on 7 cylinders, has a burnt valve and messed up rings. I knew something was wrong cuz it was droppin a lot of oil but.... SO now I'm in the market for a new crate engine. I want to stick with a 350 and I'm wondering which one you all would get. I'm looking at the GM and Edelbrock crate engines. Any other suggestions on what engine you would put in? Thanks

lycominghunter · 12-07-2010, 12:07 AM

Its a 1980 btw

3r!c84 · 12-07-2010, 12:14 AM

blueprint makes some good motors and are pretty good on the price too

spudz · 12-07-2010, 12:21 AM

gm part number 12499529 best bang for your buck...

spudz · 12-07-2010, 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by spudz

gm part number 12499529 best bang for your buck...

I think summit has them for around 1800.. gm parts direct for around 1900 free shipping.

lycominghunter · 12-07-2010, 12:33 AM

What about GM part number 10067353? Its only 30 less hp and its got 24 more ftlbs of torque, and its a couple hundred bucks cheaper? Whats the drawback besides less hp? I plan on using my trucks as an everyday driver, occasional hauler, and hunting rig. Thanks for all the help.

tucsonjwt · 12-07-2010, 06:36 AM

Is your choice based on gas mileage or performance? Will you ever tow or is this strictly a daily driver? Some 350s are designed for better gas mileage. I always prefer a new GM engine over a rebuild - less chance of botched rebuild. Can you reuse your intake, carb, etc.? - check that before you buy a new engine - not all parts work on all engines (e.g. serpentine vs. old style multiple belts.)

RandyP · 12-07-2010, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by spudz

gm part number 12499529 best bang for your buck...

Bought one of those, hate it, would not buy it again. Either step up and get one with a little more hp and good heads, or just stick with the normal old stock engine.
Have been told by numerous mechanics after dropping this engine in, it just is not a well rounded motor. Granted we put it in a truck with TBI, but even if we switched it over to carb it would not change the fact that it has sorry heads and has issues making vacuum.

I'm a bitter old man though, so take it with a lump of salt.

spudz · 12-07-2010, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyP

Bought one of those, hate it, would not buy it again. Either step up and get one with a little more hp and good heads, or just stick with the normal old stock engine.
Have been told by numerous mechanics after dropping this engine in, it just is not a well rounded motor. Granted we put it in a truck with TBI, but even if we switched it over to carb it would not change the fact that it has sorry heads and has issues making vacuum.

I'm a bitter old man though, so take it with a lump of salt.

They are damn good base motors. Not a race motor or anything. But better then what came in the truck . With stock cam they make plenty of vacuum. NOT a friendly fuel injected motor tho. I put one in a 77 a few months ago and it kicked ass. BUT to each his own.

Slonaker · 12-07-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by lycominghunter

What about GM part number 10067353? Its only 30 less hp and its got 24 more ftlbs of torque, and its a couple hundred bucks cheaper? Whats the drawback besides less hp? I plan on using my trucks as an everyday driver, occasional hauler, and hunting rig. Thanks for all the help.

I have one in my '86 truck. I have had it for 5 years, and I'm very happy with it. The 350 in my '37 Chevy is really tired, and will be replaced by the same model when I can afford it.

Jegs has it for $1500 + $159 shipping with a free HEI distributor. That's a good price. Summit has it for the same price when you consider shipping, but no free distributor.

http://www.jegs.com/i/GM+Performance...67353/10002/-1

Slonaker

RandyP · 12-07-2010, 10:49 AM

I am still pondering yanking all the TBI off mine and going carb and a vacuum dist. The constant back firing has me peeved off right now though, not sure what's causing that. Sounds like a hamster inside my exhaust pipe with a ballpeen hammer trying to make music.

Again, I'm just a bit bitter, so take my thoughts with that in mind.

bmchevy1979 · 12-07-2010, 11:03 AM

I would say blueprint because of there prices at least on the budget stomper series
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...vDUbTw&cad=rja

spudz · 12-07-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RandyP

I am still pondering yanking all the TBI off mine and going carb and a vacuum dist. The constant back firing has me peeved off right now though, not sure what's causing that. Sounds like a hamster inside my exhaust pipe with a ballpeen hammer trying to make music.

Again, I'm just a bit bitter, so take my thoughts with that in mind.

If I was you... I know its alot of work....but I would buy a set of rebuilt TBI heads. a stock non roller TBI cam, and install on your new bottom end. Just my opinion.

**old Rusty C10** · 12-07-2010, 12:19 PM

have you considered a Jasper motor?

BIG10 · 12-07-2010, 12:53 PM

Could you bore it out and rebuild for less than a crate?

allengator · 12-07-2010, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BIG10

Could you bore it out and rebuild for less than a crate?

I've never been able too.
I like building my own... but the one I just finished cost me $2200 bucks.
Thats with nothing really that special on it....
GOOD machine work cost $$$$

Telecasterjoey · 12-07-2010, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by allengator

GOOD machine work cost $$$$

Amen to that!

spudz · 12-07-2010, 05:30 PM

hell yeah it does....

lycominghunter · 12-09-2010, 12:55 PM

Well, its ordered. I got the 290HP 350!! RIGHTEOUS

RandyP · 12-09-2010, 02:14 PM

Sweet! If you were close to me I'd of made you a helluva deal on one with the break in oil still in it.

12-07-2010, 12:07 AM	#1
lycominghunter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kimberton, Pennsylvania Posts: 53	Engine Shopping Well, I'm not too proud of this, but I am in the market for a new motor. I just bought a k20 with a 350 and sm465 the other week and havent gotten to look at it much because I'm at school. Drove it up to my mechanic to get it inspected and to get a good professional opinion and...its been running on 7 cylinders, has a burnt valve and messed up rings. I knew something was wrong cuz it was droppin a lot of oil but.... SO now I'm in the market for a new crate engine. I want to stick with a 350 and I'm wondering which one you all would get. I'm looking at the GM and Edelbrock crate engines. Any other suggestions on what engine you would put in? Thanks

12-07-2010, 12:07 AM	#2
lycominghunter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kimberton, Pennsylvania Posts: 53	Re: Engine Shopping Its a 1980 btw

12-07-2010, 12:14 AM	#3
3r!c84 Badass Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: lox. fl Posts: 4,586	Re: Engine Shopping blueprint makes some good motors and are pretty good on the price too __________________ Think outside the box? -84c10 (1stcar)→My Build← -00 Saturn 5spd drop a gear and disappear! 1/4:13:90

12-07-2010, 12:21 AM	#4
spudz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Branchville SC Posts: 1,647	Re: Engine Shopping gm part number 12499529 best bang for your buck... __________________ 2004 z71, 96 z71 on 38s, 88 Chevy k5 blazer, 4in lift. 84 swb project, 82 SWB project , 84 chevy 4x4 lwb project, 88 Jimmy beater/highschool ride. 79 c30. 99 tahoe 4x4 project. and a bunch of parts trucks..

12-07-2010, 12:33 AM	#6
lycominghunter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kimberton, Pennsylvania Posts: 53	Re: Engine Shopping What about GM part number 10067353? Its only 30 less hp and its got 24 more ftlbs of torque, and its a couple hundred bucks cheaper? Whats the drawback besides less hp? I plan on using my trucks as an everyday driver, occasional hauler, and hunting rig. Thanks for all the help.

12-07-2010, 06:36 AM	#7
tucsonjwt Registered User Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 3,189	Re: Engine Shopping Is your choice based on gas mileage or performance? Will you ever tow or is this strictly a daily driver? Some 350s are designed for better gas mileage. I always prefer a new GM engine over a rebuild - less chance of botched rebuild. Can you reuse your intake, carb, etc.? - check that before you buy a new engine - not all parts work on all engines (e.g. serpentine vs. old style multiple belts.)

12-07-2010, 10:49 AM	#11
RandyP Getting Old; Going Broke Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Owasso OK Posts: 2,764	Re: Engine Shopping I am still pondering yanking all the TBI off mine and going carb and a vacuum dist. The constant back firing has me peeved off right now though, not sure what's causing that. Sounds like a hamster inside my exhaust pipe with a ballpeen hammer trying to make music. Again, I'm just a bit bitter, so take my thoughts with that in mind. __________________ *Why is every used 350 sbc out of a corvette?* There's only two things that excite a man, expensive toys and real expensive toys. *VEGETARIAN: That's an old Indian word meaning "I don't hunt so good."* When the going gets tough, switch to power tools.

12-07-2010, 11:03 AM	#12
bmchevy1979 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Visalia, Ca Posts: 707	Re: Engine Shopping I would say blueprint because of there prices at least on the budget stomper series http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sourc...vDUbTw&cad=rja __________________ <Brandon> 1974 Chevrolet K5 Blazer 350sbc/SM465/NP205, dana44 front, corp 14bolt rear with 4.10s and a powertrax locker, custom rear bumper 400sbc in the works. 1981 GMC C1500 stepside 250i6, 3spd, 12bolt with 3.08s 2.5/4drop on 15x10 with 275/50r15 81 GMC C3500 cab-chassis dually with utility bed 350sbc, Sm465, 14bolt with 4.10s nv4500 getting ready to go in 1979 Chevrolet K5 R.I.P. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=434096 1976 Chevrolet C10 R.I.P. http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=434195

12-07-2010, 12:19 PM	#14
old Rusty C10 Robert Olson Transport Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: recent transplant to NC USA Posts: 20,312	Re: Engine Shopping have you considered a Jasper motor? __________________ Bob 1951 International running on a squarebody chassis "If a man's worth is judged by the people he associates himself with, then i am the richest man in the world knowing some of the fine people of this board" http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/a...t.php?f=25&a=9 (you can review the site rules here!) PM Me for your vehicle/parts hauling needs in the North East US or see my Facebook page Robert Olson Transport Live each day to the fullest.. you never know when fate is going to pull the rug out from under you... I hate cancer!!

12-07-2010, 12:53 PM	#15
BIG10 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Jenks, OK Posts: 314	Re: Engine Shopping Could you bore it out and rebuild for less than a crate? __________________ Jay 1978 Big 10 Silverado, 355 + 700R4 + 3.42 + factory tach + A/C + dual tanks + working cruise control = awesome highway cruiser.

12-07-2010, 05:30 PM	#18
spudz Registered User Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Branchville SC Posts: 1,647	Re: Engine Shopping hell yeah it does.... __________________ 2004 z71, 96 z71 on 38s, 88 Chevy k5 blazer, 4in lift. 84 swb project, 82 SWB project , 84 chevy 4x4 lwb project, 88 Jimmy beater/highschool ride. 79 c30. 99 tahoe 4x4 project. and a bunch of parts trucks..

12-09-2010, 12:55 PM	#19
lycominghunter Registered User Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Kimberton, Pennsylvania Posts: 53	Re: Engine Shopping Well, its ordered. I got the 290HP 350!! RIGHTEOUS

12-09-2010, 02:14 PM	#20
RandyP Getting Old; Going Broke Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Owasso OK Posts: 2,764	Re: Engine Shopping Sweet! If you were close to me I'd of made you a helluva deal on one with the break in oil still in it. __________________ *Why is every used 350 sbc out of a corvette?* There's only two things that excite a man, expensive toys and real expensive toys. *VEGETARIAN: That's an old Indian word meaning "I don't hunt so good."* When the going gets tough, switch to power tools.

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