'68 cab on a '67? - The 1947 - Present Chevrolet & GMC Truck Message Board Network

jakeblues652 · 01-11-2011, 08:31 PM

is this possible from the factory, if it got late in the '67 year, because as far as i know, the cab is original, and the VIN says its a '68 and the title says its a '67.

67chevy1series · 01-11-2011, 08:37 PM

well jake when i look at a truck from a far and it looks like a 67 heres what i look for to tell me what it is

the fire wall

dash

fenders from the inside to see if i can see body work where the marker lights are

and trim holes

the rear window

when i see a truck like yours i seen that it had 68 fenders and 68 cab that told me it was a 68

gcburdic · 01-11-2011, 10:40 PM

Jake...a couple things to add to what Rick said above...try to find the partial VIN number stamped on the top frame rail driver side...could be just in front of the cab mount or out towards the engine...and see if it matches the VIN on the SPID and driver side door pillar..
other things...does the cab have a big back window (it was an option only in 67, std in 68), side markers on the fenders and bed

jakeblues652 · 01-11-2011, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by gcburdic

Jake...a couple things to add to what Rick said above...try to find the partial VIN number stamped on the top frame rail driver side...could be just in front of the cab mount or out towards the engine...and see if it matches the VIN on the SPID and driver side door pillar..
other things...does the cab have a big back window (it was an option only in 67, std in 68), side markers on the fenders and bed

big window. and the P.O told me that they changed the bed and the front fenders out with a '68 just because they liked the look of the lights.

Longhorn Man · 01-11-2011, 11:29 PM

if the VIN plate is original, then why are you questioning it? That is the trucks's identity.
Are you willing to post the VIN for us to decode?

jakeblues652 · 01-11-2011, 11:35 PM

i decoded it earlier. everything is right except the year on it. im just curious to why the vin says 68 and the titale says 67. maybe its some stupid thing that was done wrong back then, but we may never know, right?

and if it matters, the cab DOES NOT have the small key hole.

Longhorn Man · 01-11-2011, 11:43 PM

thn it's a 68.. right? Whats the last 6 on the VIN? I could see if it is a 100200 then it would have been built and even sold in early 67, and a dumb @ss dealer/DMV worker could have done it up wrong and it stuck... or maybe it was from a state where titles weren't needed after 10 years or whatever, and going by some old guy's memory...
but what the VIN says, assuming the VIN is real and not scabbed in by some PO,but the vin is the ID.

**special-K** · 01-12-2011, 09:34 AM

Does it have a '67 dash? It probably doesn't. It sounds like it's a '68 that's incorrectly titled as a '67. Or,it has had some swapping around. Do the numbers on the frame match the body and does the frame have a dimple behind the steering box? Does it have power steering??

jakeblues652 · 01-12-2011, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by special-K

Does it have a '67 dash? It probably doesn't. It sounds like it's a '68 that's incorrectly titled as a '67. Or,it has had some swapping around. Do the numbers on the frame match the body and does the frame have a dimple behind the steering box? Does it have power steering??

power steering, yes. dimple..not sure?

Stubbs67 · 01-12-2011, 12:08 PM

I think its a screw up on the part of the dmv. My 68 that i had 7 years ago was the same way, the title said 67 but it was definately a 68. fenders, dash, markers, big window. no doubt and it was a survivor, and an extremely awful lime/babydookie green. every part, inside cab, fenders, bed and all. We named it trugly.

**too much stuff** · 01-12-2011, 12:16 PM

Sounds like a 68 to me. I can't imagine someone changing the box and fenders to have side markers. Usually people are filling them in. I would double check all your numbers. VIN, glovebox, frame and title. The dimple would be where the steering box is bolted to the frame. Is it flat?

**special-K** · 01-12-2011, 12:35 PM

And a '67,originally,would have a ram-assist type of power steering...nothing like '68-up. does this truck have the SPID?

maynardtruckin · 01-12-2011, 01:06 PM

just from your video your truck is a 68 looking at the ignition switch hole. 67 had a smaller bezel and therefor a smaller hole. Also if it has a pedal for the e brake it would be a 68, 67 used a pull handle mounted under the steering column.

gcburdic · 01-12-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by maynardtruckin

just from your video your truck is a 68 looking at the ignition switch hole. 67 had a smaller bezel and therefor a smaller hole. Also if it has a pedal for the e brake it would be a 68, 67 used a pull handle mounted under the steering column.

Hey maynardtruckin....FYI....69-72 uses the foot ebrake....68 has the hand operated ebrake...

maynardtruckin · 01-12-2011, 01:43 PM

yes early 68 had pull handles but mid to late 68 had pedals according to the facterey build sheets and specs I saw from the Kansas City MO plant.

**too much stuff** · 01-12-2011, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by maynardtruckin

yes early 68 had pull handles but mid to late 68 had pedals according to the facterey build sheets and specs I saw from the Kansas City MO plant.

Every 67 and 68 i have seen has the hand brake. 69 and up got the foot brake.

gcburdic · 01-12-2011, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by maynardtruckin

yes early 68 had pull handles but mid to late 68 had pedals according to the facterey build sheets and specs I saw from the Kansas City MO plant.

This is good to know....I'd love to see one from the factory like that...defintely be a rare bird

....Thanks for the info

teeitup · 01-12-2011, 01:53 PM

I think you have a body swap truck. What letter does the vin plate start with? If its a C your truck has a 2wd body on a 4x4 frame

jablack · 01-12-2011, 02:02 PM

My 67 has the dimple behind the steering gear box, but it was a c20. It had power steering too but that could have been put on by a po.

**special-K** · 01-12-2011, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by teeitup

I think you have a body swap truck. What letter does the vin plate start with? If its a C your truck has a 2wd body on a 4x4 frame

I didn't know it was a 4wd we were talking about. This could explain something.

teeitup · 01-12-2011, 04:57 PM

I was looking at his Youtube video Tim, thats the only reason I thought of that. Also he said in video reverse was to you and up it should to you and down, atleast my 67 with a sm420 is

jakeblues652 · 01-12-2011, 05:26 PM

it is 4 wheel drive, and the VIN agrees, and the spid is long gone. it has sm420. hand brake type e-brake. will check on the dimples and such when the weather gets a little nicer. we got about 8 inches of powder last night.

Longhorn Man · 01-12-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by maynardtruckin

yes early 68 had pull handles but mid to late 68 had pedals according to the facterey build sheets and specs I saw from the Kansas City MO plant.

that was probably late 68 when they were tooling up for 69s.

**special-K** · 01-12-2011, 06:25 PM

Yeah,must be rare. I have never seen a '68 with a foot brake.

maynardtruckin · 01-12-2011, 08:46 PM

Well the 68 sub I had had one and I have personaly seen six more trucks with them that a buddy has bought and sold over the years. I know my 67 swb is a pull handle and i have seen early 68's with pull handles. My 69 4x4 is pedal both my 70 and the 72 are all pedals. but the truck in question is a 68from all i have seen probably retitled due to no title or something like that!

01-11-2011, 08:37 PM	#2
67chevy1series Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: a t w a t e r cali 95301 Posts: 10,713	Re: '68 cab on a '67? well jake when i look at a truck from a far and it looks like a 67 heres what i look for to tell me what it is the fire wall dash fenders from the inside to see if i can see body work where the marker lights are and trim holes the rear window when i see a truck like yours i seen that it had 68 fenders and 68 cab that told me it was a 68

01-11-2011, 10:40 PM	#3
gcburdic Restoration Virgin! Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Huntersville, NC Posts: 8,298	Re: '68 cab on a '67? Jake...a couple things to add to what Rick said above...try to find the partial VIN number stamped on the top frame rail driver side...could be just in front of the cab mount or out towards the engine...and see if it matches the VIN on the SPID and driver side door pillar.. other things...does the cab have a big back window (it was an option only in 67, std in 68), side markers on the fenders and bed __________________ Geoff with a G 1968 Chevy C10 SWB The Mistress 1972 Custom Deluxe C20 Suburban A Suburban Named Isabella 1966 Ford Mustang Mama's High School Graduation Present

01-11-2011, 11:29 PM	#5
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: '68 cab on a '67? if the VIN plate is original, then why are you questioning it? That is the trucks's identity. Are you willing to post the VIN for us to decode?

01-11-2011, 11:43 PM	#7
Longhorn Man its all about the +6 inches Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Hilliard Ohio Posts: 2,690	Re: '68 cab on a '67? thn it's a 68.. right? Whats the last 6 on the VIN? I could see if it is a 100200 then it would have been built and even sold in early 67, and a dumb @ss dealer/DMV worker could have done it up wrong and it stuck... or maybe it was from a state where titles weren't needed after 10 years or whatever, and going by some old guy's memory... but what the VIN says, assuming the VIN is real and not scabbed in by some PO,but the vin is the ID.

01-12-2011, 09:34 AM	#8
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: '68 cab on a '67? Does it have a '67 dash? It probably doesn't. It sounds like it's a '68 that's incorrectly titled as a '67. Or,it has had some swapping around. Do the numbers on the frame match the body and does the frame have a dimple behind the steering box? Does it have power steering?? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-12-2011, 12:08 PM	#10
Stubbs67 Registered User Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Venus, Tx Posts: 121	Re: '68 cab on a '67? I think its a screw up on the part of the dmv. My 68 that i had 7 years ago was the same way, the title said 67 but it was definately a 68. fenders, dash, markers, big window. no doubt and it was a survivor, and an extremely awful lime/babydookie green. every part, inside cab, fenders, bed and all. We named it trugly. __________________ 67 Short Step Project -My other wife, ya know... (she takes all my time and money and I don't even realize it) 88 Subaru wagon 4wd -Daily driver and workhorse 98 Subaru Forester S - Wife and baby wheels My Build Thread! http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=433751 Need step tail gate and bed front, driver door, both front fenders (both are bondo'd nightmares). can trade fleetside bed parts real straight (except sides) or pay some cash (i am pretty broke)

01-12-2011, 12:16 PM	#11
too much stuff Roadtrip! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Grand Rapids MN Posts: 13,787	Re: '68 cab on a '67? Sounds like a 68 to me. I can't imagine someone changing the box and fenders to have side markers. Usually people are filling them in. I would double check all your numbers. VIN, glovebox, frame and title. The dimple would be where the steering box is bolted to the frame. Is it flat? __________________ 67 gmc custom lwb dakota truck. Sold...And bought back 69 swb 4x4 project (in progress) 70 c-10 lwb texas truck 70 4x4/BB/bkts/posi/tach(retired) 70 swb (wifes) 70 jimmy camper 71 K-5 factory 2wd 71 cheyenne 4x4/tach/posi/ plow rig 71 Cheyenne20 BB, buckets, tach, tilt, 4 speed 72 jimmy CST wyoming rig 72 jimmy Colorado rig 72 lifted texas 4x4 3/4 ton burb 65 fury conv. 383/auto 65 chrysler 300 "L" 413 auto

01-12-2011, 12:35 PM	#12
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: '68 cab on a '67? And a '67,originally,would have a ram-assist type of power steering...nothing like '68-up. does this truck have the SPID? __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-12-2011, 01:06 PM	#13
maynardtruckin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Falcon \ Colorado Posts: 193	Re: '68 cab on a '67? just from your video your truck is a 68 looking at the ignition switch hole. 67 had a smaller bezel and therefor a smaller hole. Also if it has a pedal for the e brake it would be a 68, 67 used a pull handle mounted under the steering column. __________________ Chris 67 c10 swb build in progress 70 c10 lwb driver pending parts for drastic overhaul 70 c20 lwb parts truck for above mentioned drastic overhaul 71 k20 lwb building for off road use and towing

01-12-2011, 01:43 PM	#15
maynardtruckin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Falcon \ Colorado Posts: 193	Re: '68 cab on a '67? yes early 68 had pull handles but mid to late 68 had pedals according to the facterey build sheets and specs I saw from the Kansas City MO plant. __________________ Chris 67 c10 swb build in progress 70 c10 lwb driver pending parts for drastic overhaul 70 c20 lwb parts truck for above mentioned drastic overhaul 71 k20 lwb building for off road use and towing

01-12-2011, 01:53 PM	#18
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,395	Re: '68 cab on a '67? I think you have a body swap truck. What letter does the vin plate start with? If its a C your truck has a 2wd body on a 4x4 frame __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

01-12-2011, 02:02 PM	#19
jablack Classic Chevy Recycler Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Alabama Posts: 422	Re: '68 cab on a '67? My 67 has the dimple behind the steering gear box, but it was a c20. It had power steering too but that could have been put on by a po. __________________ 2004 Chevrolet Trailblazer EXT 1970 Chevrolet C50 1979 Chevrolet C30 Need another 67 or 68 soon...

01-12-2011, 04:57 PM	#21
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,395	Re: '68 cab on a '67? I was looking at his Youtube video Tim, thats the only reason I thought of that. Also he said in video reverse was to you and up it should to you and down, atleast my 67 with a sm420 is __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

01-12-2011, 06:25 PM	#24
special-K Special Order Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Mt Airy, MD Posts: 85,851	Re: '68 cab on a '67? Yeah,must be rare. I have never seen a '68 with a foot brake. __________________ "BUILDING A BETTER WAY TO SERVE THE USA"......67/72......"The New Breed" GMC '67 C1500 Wideside Super Custom SWB: 327/M22/3.42 posi.........."The '67" (project) GMC '72 K2500 Wideside Sierra Custom Camper: 350/TH350/4.10 Power-Lok..."The '72" (rolling) Tim "Don't call me a redneck. I'm a rough cut country gentleman" R.I.P. ~ East Side Low Life ~ El Jay ~ 72BLUZ ~ Fasteddie69 ~ Ron586 ~ 67ChevyRedneck ~ Grumpy Old Man ~

01-12-2011, 08:46 PM	#25
maynardtruckin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Falcon \ Colorado Posts: 193	Re: '68 cab on a '67? Well the 68 sub I had had one and I have personaly seen six more trucks with them that a buddy has bought and sold over the years. I know my 67 swb is a pull handle and i have seen early 68's with pull handles. My 69 4x4 is pedal both my 70 and the 72 are all pedals. but the truck in question is a 68from all i have seen probably retitled due to no title or something like that! __________________ Chris 67 c10 swb build in progress 70 c10 lwb driver pending parts for drastic overhaul 70 c20 lwb parts truck for above mentioned drastic overhaul 71 k20 lwb building for off road use and towing



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