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Vintage Windmills · 01-17-2011, 01:07 AM

Looked at this last sunday for parts. Mainly to use the wheels/tires and hitch on my 71 C20. Price was right since he was going to remove the 454. Well he got the engine out on thursday and the weather was pretty nice today (7 degrees but calm and not snowing) so i borrowed a nice GMC crew and rented a trailer. Anyways, it has some nice options and no rust holes or soft spots anywhere on the box that I can see. Front end was supposedly rebuilt and the truck ran great and everything worked. After looking at it some more, I'm having thoughts of putting back on the road- am i crazy? Tabs are current and title is clean.

I really need some opinions on the cab from you guys who have seen alot more of these than i have- it looks good on visor area outside but has holes inside (see photo) Also, needs rockers, corners, floor patch behind seat and maybe a support or two. There is rust through above engine on firewall. Is this a wierd area to rust? Is this cab too far gone?

Pretty clean underneath with just surface rust on chassis. Truck was originally a southern SD truck. They use little or no salt there. Look at the white on the trailer- isn't the salt up here in MN disgusting? That is why my truck is in the shed until the first good cleansing rain.

Vintage Windmills · 01-17-2011, 01:11 AM

Cab pics. Told him I would take this on Monday (before I found the 67 4x4). No regrets yet!

71veronica · 01-17-2011, 01:19 AM

to far gone . thats my opinion

05crewcab · 01-17-2011, 01:32 AM

Nice score! I noticed it has the mirrors I need for my 71.
If you dont mind me asking, how much did you pay for it?

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Vintage Windmills · 01-17-2011, 01:48 AM

Thanks but I'm not selling any parts now.

Also, anyone know why is the leaf spring listed on the SPID? I thought they were standard on Gmc's?

71gmcburb · 01-17-2011, 04:14 AM

I'm orig from NE Iowa about 40 miles from Minn line and 12 miles from the mississippi and that truck looks to be in realy good shape for being around there. As far as the rust on the firewall it's nither common or rare . it happens when the cowl area gets filled with debris and then rain or snow sits there and causes that rust and as for the springs on the 1/2 tons coils were stock and yours has the HD susp IMO I would repair that truck

Vintage Windmills · 01-17-2011, 12:32 PM

If I were to repair the truck, would you repair the cab or replace the cab?

Looking for more opinions to determine future of this truck!

Gobbles · 01-17-2011, 12:39 PM

I think it looks pretty good as long as you can repair that rotten rocker/floor on the drivers side and get a new seat cover. Otherwise it looks fairly straight, if you have the time, patience and some cash I think its repairable. I would start working on the nastiest parts and if you can't get those to look right then start looking at other options, ie) new floor?

As for the leaf spring on the SPID, my mechanic told me that leafs were an option in the 70's and they came stock with coils, thats just word of mouth.

my $0.02

05crewcab · 01-17-2011, 12:40 PM

The only part of the cab that looks real suspect to me is the rust above the windshield. I have heard that is a bear to fix. Otherwise I dont think it would be too much trouble to fix the rockers, floor, and cab corners.

Vintage Windmills · 01-17-2011, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 05crewcab

The only part of the cab that looks real suspect to me is the rust above the windshield. I have heard that is a bear to fix. Otherwise I dont think it would be too much trouble to fix the rockers, floor, and cab corners.

Yeah, thats what I heard too. Is it pretty easy to find cabs that don't have rust at all in the visor area?

RCbowtie69 · 01-17-2011, 06:03 PM

good save, Keep on Truckin''

Big Block · 01-17-2011, 06:12 PM

Find another cab and get busy. Looks to good to part. Good luck.

big_al_71 · 01-17-2011, 06:18 PM

buy the panels that need to be replaced and rebuild that bad boy..

teeitup · 01-17-2011, 06:30 PM

cab is too far gone, with rust above visors and firewall rust plus everything down below its not worth your time, when you can find one for $300-$500 needing rockers and corners. Part it out or find another cab and fix it up.
IMO, and you guys know I like to part out trucks!!!!!!!!!

It would part out good, high hump, BB motor stands, headliner, grill, wing windows, rear bumper brackets, front sway bar, dana 60 rear, AC stuff, etc.
Good luck, Randy

**Dieselwrencher** · 01-17-2011, 06:46 PM

I'd atleast find a different cab. Those windshield patch jobs suck IMO.

**LockDoc** · 01-18-2011, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gobbles

As for the leaf spring on the SPID, my mechanic told me that leafs were an option in the 70's and they came stock with coils, thats just word of mouth.

my $0.02

Chevy's came stock with coils and leafs were optional. GMC's came stock with leafs and coils were optional. So you can see either one on either truck.

LockDoc

Vintage Windmills · 01-18-2011, 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LockDoc

Chevy's came stock with coils and leafs were optional. GMC's came stock with leafs and coils were optional. So you can see either one on either truck.

LockDoc

Thats what I thought but how do you explain the "LEA" on the SPID?

While on the SpID, is the WINDSHIELD GLASS- T1 just another way of calling out tint? If thats the case, isn't it weird that the other windows tinting is not on the SPID?

Big Block · 01-18-2011, 10:12 PM

"As for the leaf spring on the SPID, my mechanic told me that leafs were an option in the 70's and they came stock with coils, thats just word of mouth."

I agree. I have owned 4 GMC's. #1 was a 1970 1/2 GMC short bed step side with leaf springs. #2 was a 1971 1/2 GMC s/b fleetside with coils. #3 is a 1971 Jimmy 2w dr with coils. #4 is a 1970 1/2 long bed fleetside and it has coil springs. I am pretty sure coils were standard and leafs were optional on both Chevy and GMC. I have seen more GMC with leafs that I have seen on Chevys. I also have a 4x4 72 Jimmy and 72 Blazer but we all know that is the only way a 4x4 came is with leaf springs.

Big Block · 01-18-2011, 10:24 PM

One other thing to consider. I think you will find more leaf spring were used on, or were ordered on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I think most 1/2 tons were coil springs.

71gmcburb · 01-19-2011, 01:02 AM

note the SPID says HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION for front and rear that is why it is listed

71gmcburb · 01-19-2011, 01:11 AM

coils where stock as GMC was concidered a Lucury(sp) truck back then and Chevy was the work truck. As for the T1 is for the top 6" or so of the windshield it had a blue top vs the clear top

01-17-2011, 01:48 AM	#5
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC Thanks but I'm not selling any parts now. Also, anyone know why is the leaf spring listed on the SPID? I thought they were standard on Gmc's? __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

01-17-2011, 04:14 AM	#6
71gmcburb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: everett washington Posts: 382	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC I'm orig from NE Iowa about 40 miles from Minn line and 12 miles from the mississippi and that truck looks to be in realy good shape for being around there. As far as the rust on the firewall it's nither common or rare . it happens when the cowl area gets filled with debris and then rain or snow sits there and causes that rust and as for the springs on the 1/2 tons coils were stock and yours has the HD susp IMO I would repair that truck __________________ a wise man once said "There are only two real rules to life... 1 - Don't sweat the small stuff 2 - Everything is small stuff

01-17-2011, 12:32 PM	#7
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC If I were to repair the truck, would you repair the cab or replace the cab? Looking for more opinions to determine future of this truck! __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6

01-17-2011, 12:39 PM	#8
Gobbles Registered User Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: British Columbia Posts: 484	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC I think it looks pretty good as long as you can repair that rotten rocker/floor on the drivers side and get a new seat cover. Otherwise it looks fairly straight, if you have the time, patience and some cash I think its repairable. I would start working on the nastiest parts and if you can't get those to look right then start looking at other options, ie) new floor? As for the leaf spring on the SPID, my mechanic told me that leafs were an option in the 70's and they came stock with coils, thats just word of mouth. my $0.02 __________________ Trevor "You already said spite"

01-17-2011, 12:40 PM	#9
05crewcab Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnetonka, MN Posts: 409	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC The only part of the cab that looks real suspect to me is the rust above the windshield. I have heard that is a bear to fix. Otherwise I dont think it would be too much trouble to fix the rockers, floor, and cab corners. __________________ 1971 C-20 350/350

01-17-2011, 01:07 AM	#1
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Brought this home today- GMC via GMC Looked at this last sunday for parts. Mainly to use the wheels/tires and hitch on my 71 C20. Price was right since he was going to remove the 454. Well he got the engine out on thursday and the weather was pretty nice today (7 degrees but calm and not snowing) so i borrowed a nice GMC crew and rented a trailer. Anyways, it has some nice options and no rust holes or soft spots anywhere on the box that I can see. Front end was supposedly rebuilt and the truck ran great and everything worked. After looking at it some more, I'm having thoughts of putting back on the road- am i crazy? Tabs are current and title is clean. I really need some opinions on the cab from you guys who have seen alot more of these than i have- it looks good on visor area outside but has holes inside (see photo) Also, needs rockers, corners, floor patch behind seat and maybe a support or two. There is rust through above engine on firewall. Is this a wierd area to rust? Is this cab too far gone? Pretty clean underneath with just surface rust on chassis. Truck was originally a southern SD truck. They use little or no salt there. Look at the white on the trailer- isn't the salt up here in MN disgusting? That is why my truck is in the shed until the first good cleansing rain. Attached Images __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6 Last edited by Vintage Windmills; 01-17-2011 at 01:28 AM. Reason: spelling

01-17-2011, 01:11 AM	#2
Vintage Windmills Vintage 4x4s Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Prior Lake, MN Posts: 4,305	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC Cab pics. Told him I would take this on Monday (before I found the 67 4x4). No regrets yet! Attached Images __________________ 67 GMC K1500 Custom- 305V6 SM420, PTO, Ram Assist, yellow (the outcast) (project period correct upgrades) 67 GMC C2500 351V6 TH400, AC, PS, PB (can't decide what to do with. Update, decided to keep and will restore ) 86 CHV K30 502 th400, apple red NEW 71 CHV K20 350 SM465, ochre (saved work truck) 71 CHV K20 292 SM465, white, tach, PTO, (future project) 72 CHV K20 350 350th, medium blue (project stocker) 01 CHV K2500hd crew, indigo blue ^3 dont run and the others don't see winter either '86 K30 Cummins "Fireside" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=649649 '71 K20 "get driveable" thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...d.php?t=590642 '72 K20 Build Thread: http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...=493477&page=6 Last edited by Vintage Windmills; 01-17-2011 at 01:13 AM.

01-17-2011, 01:19 AM	#3
71veronica Registered User Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: pleasant grove, UT Posts: 399	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC to far gone . thats my opinion

01-17-2011, 01:32 AM	#4
05crewcab Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Minnetonka, MN Posts: 409	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC Nice score! I noticed it has the mirrors I need for my 71. If you dont mind me asking, how much did you pay for it? Please note that you must be a supporting member to post classified items. This includes but is not limited to What Its Worth, Want To Buy, Want To Trade, and For Sale. Please consider supporting the forum by subscribing. Further information on the subscription levels available are located here If you need any further assistance with that please contact any Admin for help. __________________ 1971 C-20 350/350 Last edited by 70cst; 01-17-2011 at 01:31 PM.

01-17-2011, 06:03 PM	#11
RCbowtie69 Registered User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Thomasville, NC Posts: 1,877	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC good save, Keep on Truckin''

01-17-2011, 06:12 PM	#12
Big Block Big Block Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Durham, N.C. Posts: 1,649	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC Find another cab and get busy. Looks to good to part. Good luck.

01-17-2011, 06:18 PM	#13
big_al_71 Registered User Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: South Florida Posts: 11,375	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC buy the panels that need to be replaced and rebuild that bad boy.. __________________ Get your facts first, and then you can distort them as much as you please!!!!!. Sylvester's build thread >>>http://67-72chevytrucks.com/vboard/s...ht=big+rebuild

01-17-2011, 06:30 PM	#14
teeitup Just like to part out trucks!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Meriden, Ks-North of Topeka 10 miles Posts: 27,396	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC cab is too far gone, with rust above visors and firewall rust plus everything down below its not worth your time, when you can find one for $300-$500 needing rockers and corners. Part it out or find another cab and fix it up. IMO, and you guys know I like to part out trucks!!!!!!!!! It would part out good, high hump, BB motor stands, headliner, grill, wing windows, rear bumper brackets, front sway bar, dana 60 rear, AC stuff, etc. Good luck, Randy __________________ 67 Chev swb stepside 4x4 283 4 speed SOLD 72 blazer 4x4 4 speed Cheyenne 72 GMC swb 4x4 fleet 4 speed, original paint 1958 Cameo (one of 1405 built, it was my dads) 2020 chevy Apex 4x4 crew cab 1969 Z28 with the 302 1980 chevy swb 4x4 1964 chevell Malibu SS 1976 K20, sold new originally out of my dads chevy dealership Members that I've met, over 200 probably closer to 300 in the 12 years I've been on this site, everyone I met "It was a pleasure"

01-17-2011, 06:46 PM	#15
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01-18-2011, 10:12 PM	#18
Big Block Big Block Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Durham, N.C. Posts: 1,649	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC "As for the leaf spring on the SPID, my mechanic told me that leafs were an option in the 70's and they came stock with coils, thats just word of mouth." I agree. I have owned 4 GMC's. #1 was a 1970 1/2 GMC short bed step side with leaf springs. #2 was a 1971 1/2 GMC s/b fleetside with coils. #3 is a 1971 Jimmy 2w dr with coils. #4 is a 1970 1/2 long bed fleetside and it has coil springs. I am pretty sure coils were standard and leafs were optional on both Chevy and GMC. I have seen more GMC with leafs that I have seen on Chevys. I also have a 4x4 72 Jimmy and 72 Blazer but we all know that is the only way a 4x4 came is with leaf springs. Last edited by Big Block; 01-18-2011 at 10:19 PM.



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01-18-2011, 10:24 PM	#19
Big Block Big Block Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Durham, N.C. Posts: 1,649	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC One other thing to consider. I think you will find more leaf spring were used on, or were ordered on 3/4 and 1 ton trucks. I think most 1/2 tons were coil springs.

01-19-2011, 01:02 AM	#20
71gmcburb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: everett washington Posts: 382	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC note the SPID says HEAVY DUTY SUSPENSION for front and rear that is why it is listed __________________ a wise man once said "There are only two real rules to life... 1 - Don't sweat the small stuff 2 - Everything is small stuff

01-19-2011, 01:11 AM	#21
71gmcburb Registered User Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: everett washington Posts: 382	Re: Brought this home today- GMC via GMC coils where stock as GMC was concidered a Lucury(sp) truck back then and Chevy was the work truck. As for the T1 is for the top 6" or so of the windshield it had a blue top vs the clear top __________________ a wise man once said "There are only two real rules to life... 1 - Don't sweat the small stuff 2 - Everything is small stuff

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