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Old 03-05-2011, 02:49 PM   #1
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Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

I have had this one sitting on the shelf for a while, bought a Gear Vendors and no need to keep them both...

Doug Nash Engineering Dual Range Auxiliary Transmission, bolts on your TH400 transmission instead of the tailshaft housing. Gives a .75 to 1 overdrive ratio. Electrically shifted like a 2 speed truck rear end, and can stay in either direct or overdrive. Commonly used on RVs, motorhomes, bigger trucks. Probably not well suited for hot-rod gear splitting, but pretty handy for the right applications. USGear bought out Doug Nash, very similar to the Dual Range.
Your 4.10 rear becomes a 3.08 in overdrive, 4.57 to 3.42, or 5.13 to 3.85. Keep your deep gear for off the line grunt, then shift to overdrive at highway speed to lower your RPM, maybe even save some gas in the process? Or leave it in overdrive when unloaded. Or...

All manuals and electric controls are included.
$900 plus shipping (less than $75 in the US48 I would guess).
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:42 PM   #2
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

man.........temptation, very sweet.
A thought, total with shipping to 28387 business address...........pay pal?
pm me, i tend to forget things.

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Old 03-06-2011, 11:11 AM   #3
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

I wish it bolted to the tailshaft. Then,it probably would work on my M22. Bump for you^^
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:04 AM   #4
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

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I wish it bolted to the tailshaft. Then,it probably would work on my M22. Bump for you^^
I know there was a version of this overdrive that operated as a stand alone or divorced type box. I think it was just a yoke input/housing for the front side.
Probably more trouble than it is worth, but a good excuse to top this ad!

Here is a picture I borrowed from a completed sale on ebay to give an idea on size:
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Old 03-07-2011, 02:08 PM   #5
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

Chris, are you suppose to be able to use the original drive shaft since it takes the place of the tail? It looks a little longer. Just what I need on my C30 longhorn, though. I had actually been looking to change the 4:56 gears out, but this may be a little nicer set up. Gotta check the funds though.
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Old 03-07-2011, 04:03 PM   #6
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Chris, are you suppose to be able to use the original drive shaft since it takes the place of the tail? It looks a little longer. Just what I need on my C30 longhorn, though. I had actually been looking to change the 4:56 gears out, but this may be a little nicer set up. Gotta check the funds though.
You will need to modify/change the drifeshaft. The book says: "Establish new driveshaft dimensions (GM is 12 5/8" shorter ... FOMCO 1' 1/2") . If the vehicle has extremely short front half, it maybe more appropriate to use a new one piece shaft."

PM me your email if you would like me to send the scanned install manual.
4:56 with an overdrive would work real nice!
I will take paypal, so you could pay with your credit card

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Old 03-07-2011, 05:13 PM   #7
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

pm'ed

How does the "switch" usually set up? Manually on the dash? Defenitely interested, especially after you call and talk the other half into it. I'll stand in the corner and listen....
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Old 03-07-2011, 05:57 PM   #8
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

Basically an on/off button that attaches to the gear shift lever.
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Old 03-07-2011, 06:06 PM   #9
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

I knew a guy who had something similar, years ago, that had it hook up to another dimmer switch on the floor. I thought it was the coolest thing. I'll study the book tonight and see how much more it may cost me past the price of it. I hate to get into cutting and balancing the driveshaft. Im assuming you never had it on your 133" wheelbase (same as mine)? Anyway, put me in line for it, and see what my cost would be getting it to the porch. I can have it shipped to a business in 20166 if its any cheaper. Thanks
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Old 03-07-2011, 08:07 PM   #10
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

THATS ABOUT 1/3 THE PRICE OF A GEAR VENDORS UNIT. AT $4 A GALLON IT WONT TAKE THAT THING LONG TO PAY FOR ITSELF. A NO-DOUBT BARGAIN. JOHN
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Ttt for a bargain john
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:13 AM   #12
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

sweet!

Wish I could swing it but....

good luck with sale.
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Old 03-10-2011, 02:12 PM   #13
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

Still available until someone posts "SOLD" on this thread...
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

Mark it SOLD......Going in a 1978 P-32 based RV behind a 454/TH400 combo....
The adventure begins.....

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Saweeeeet!!!! Bus. John
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Thanks....it's my favorite toy. We carry two bikes & two 50cc Suzuki's on a single wheel swivel trailer plus two inflatable kayaks in storage bay...just a rolling collection of R&R toys.....Hoping Chris' OD is going to quiet things down a little at 60mph. At 24', I've got the same drivetrain & gearing as units that go to 36', so I shouldn't be pushing the OD or the TH400 too hard......

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It ought to be a great match. At almost $4 a dogone gallon, it ought to payoff immedeately. Thats an awful nice looking setup you've got there. I can see why it's your favorite toy. I'd much rather have a classic looking setup like your's than any new one I've seen. Niiiiice. John
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

Hi, I have one of these units in my truck, there is no wiring though, is there a way that '78RV or anyone else could send me or e-mail me a scanned copy of the manual so I can figure out how to wire it? Any help is much appreciated!

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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

I never see '78RV on here. I think these are his only 2 posts. Have you tried contacting Doug Nash?
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:23 AM   #20
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Re: Doug Nash overdrive unit for TH400

PM me with your email address if you would like a copy of the installation manual and the wiring manual.
I have them as .pdf but too big to attach here.

I did talk to 78RV after installation, and he seemed very pleased with its function.

You can read about his installation here:
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Old 09-19-2012, 09:40 AM   #21
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'78RV here.......the overdrive manual is waiting for you in several places out there in cyberspace....here's one of them:

http://www.bangshift.com/forum/showt...ained.../page4

FWIW-some observations after a season's use:

1. Unit has performed great for me...I was sold a solid unit.

2. Weakest link is all the wiring, mainly for the OEM shifter - the electro-mechanical relay was undependable and trouble-prone.

3. My solution was to remove ALL of it....clip the wires of the two gray elipitcal plugs on the case and toss out shifter button, relay and all associated wiring. All it does is send signals to shifter - they do nothing regarding the actual shift change. You only need TWO wires to OD, one on each terminal of slide switch.

4. Replace all that with a truck style floor mounted dimmer switch. Keyed power goes to the center post, one wire from one leg goes to one terminal on slide-switch on passenger side of case, other wire goes from other leg to other terminal on slide switch. Now you just tap dimmer switch and switch motor compresses spring, ready for shifting when you unload the driveline torque.

5. When you figure which one is hot in OD, scab in a peanut LED light and you've got visual status of OD mode.

6. Electrical wear parts are shift motor and slide switch on case. I got new replacement motor over the counter at NAPA and switches are readily available.

7. Remember, shift motor doesn't shift anything...it merely preloads a spring that stays compressed until you unload driveline, then spring slides the gears. Shifting from normal to OD produces a noticeable CLUNK.....shifting from OD to normal produces a light CLINK...just the nature of the beast I guess.

Let me know if you need part #'s & sources for motor & switch. Hope this helps.....
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