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Old 08-21-2011, 09:44 PM   #1
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My Wheels Need Help!

Here are a couple shots of my truck so ya'll can see the ugly rusted wheels that are on it. I'd like to buy aluminum wheels for it but that's not an option right now so how can I make these look better? All ideas are welcome and much appreciated. Along with your ideas, there are 2 things i'm wondering.

1. Is there a good way to repaint my wheels without sandblasting them?

2. Would the stainless trim rings from LMC fit my wheels? I mean are they pretty universal or are they only for a certain type of wheel?
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Break 'em down, get 'em soda or sand blasted, then paint them. Add some trim rings to them and maybe some center caps.

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1. Is there a good way to repaint my wheels without sandblasting them?
Sure. Pull them off and wetsand with 180 followed by 220. Let the air out and break down the front bead, mask off the tire and hit them with gray or silver from a rattle can, buy 4 chrome center caps and 24 chrome acorn lug nuts.

It will look like a new truck. Seriously.
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Old 08-21-2011, 11:00 PM   #4
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Sure. Pull them off and wetsand with 180 followed by 220. Let the air out and break down the front bead, mask off the tire and hit them with gray or silver from a rattle can, buy 4 chrome center caps and 24 chrome acorn lug nuts.

It will look like a new truck. Seriously.

How well does rattle can paint hold up? Is there a brand that's known to be better?
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How well does rattle can paint hold up? Is there a brand that's known to be better?
http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=375

http://www.vhtpaint.com/wheelpaint.html

http://duplicolor.com/products/wheelCoating/


I've used rustoleum industrial flat black on my wagon wheels and it seems to hold up pretty well.
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Don't those old style white wagon wheels go for around 50 bucks apiece brand new?

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i agree with wilbilt but i would do something different in the center, either black or something close to body color and that way you wouldn't need trim rings with silver or gray around the outer lip. also paint the drum and calipers if so equipped and to save some money just paint those lugnuts with the silver and find some decent looking caps.
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Re: My Wheels Need Help!

Like mentioned above,clean/sand them well.The rattle can paint will last well if you prep well.Mine have been done for a couple of years and still look good.I cleaned them with degreaser(at the car wash,high pressure with good degreaser)Then sanded with 180/220 and did the tight areas with scotchbrite/steel wool.I then degreased them again though I could have cleaned them with laquer thinner.Make sure you follow temp/humidity directions on the paint.I did Ralleys with trim rings.I don't care for the huge center caps and am running 6 lugs with stock lug nets.
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You can take a flat strip of sheet metal and wrap it around the outside of the bead to mask off the tires. I think Tractor Supply paint holds up really well.
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Old 08-22-2011, 12:02 PM   #10
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http://www.vhtpaint.com/wheelpaint.html

http://duplicolor.com/products/wheelCoating/


I've used rustoleum industrial flat black on my wagon wheels and it seems to hold up pretty well.
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Don't those old style white wagon wheels go for around 50 bucks apiece brand new?

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Haven't checked but that's half of what I can buy aluminum wheels for and with my wedding in 6 weeks I'm wanting to hang onto all the money I can.

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i agree with wilbilt but i would do something different in the center, either black or something close to body color and that way you wouldn't need trim rings with silver or gray around the outer lip. also paint the drum and calipers if so equipped and to save some money just paint those lugnuts with the silver and find some decent looking caps.
Good idea on the 2 paint colors.I had thought about body color with trim rings so this gives me another idea.

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Like mentioned above,clean/sand them well.The rattle can paint will last well if you prep well.Mine have been done for a couple of years and still look good.I cleaned them with degreaser(at the car wash,high pressure with good degreaser)Then sanded with 180/220 and did the tight areas with scotchbrite/steel wool.I then degreased them again though I could have cleaned them with laquer thinner.Make sure you follow temp/humidity directions on the paint.I did Ralleys with trim rings.I don't care for the huge center caps and am running 6 lugs with stock lug nets.
Thanks for the prep work info.Good stuff.

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You can take a flat strip of sheet metal and wrap it around the outside of the bead to mask off the tires. I think Tractor Supply paint holds up really well.

Good idea Special-K. And big thank you to all the ideas given.
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Re: My Wheels Need Help!

I just blasted and painted a set of rally wheels a couple of months ago. I didn't worry about breaking the bead, because I have trim rings to cover the edges, so I just masked and made sure I didn't get overspray on the tire.

I learned a couple of things: 1. The silica I used left the surface of the metal rough. Even with a couple of coats of paint, it's not as smooth as I'd like. When I do it again (I have another set that will eventually go on the Blazer) I'll use soda.

2. Rustoleum seems to go on well, and I didn't have any problem with runs in the paint. I had to be careful to get the paint into the areas between the rim and the face of the rim, where there's a small gap. So far the Rustoleum has held up well.

I had a set of white wagon wheels similar to yours, but 15X10, and when I priced a spare at a couple of places they wanted almost $200 for just the wheel.
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Soda blast and then get 'em powder coated, should last a long time that way.
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Get some rallys slots of steelies THEN work on em..sorry not a fan of wagon wheels lol

Depends how much time effort and $ ya wanna put in em, probably look great to just scuff up prime and paint them or you can have em powdercoated/or blast then paint etc etc

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Wire brush the loose paint off, 180/220 to smooth the hard edges and scuff, tape, prime and paint. Cost you $25 or so and a few hours of your time. I'd do the wheels, drums, rotors and calipers if you have them. It'll look like a different truck. I'd do the brake parts in black (any) and probably do the wheels in a silver or charcoal or something that hides some dust/dirt. White stains to easy IMO. I also like less of a contrast between truck and wheel. JMOT.
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Re: My Wheels Need Help!

Thanks guys for all your ideas. Has anyone used Plasti-Kote Wheel Paint? Stopped by the local auto parts tonight and that's the kind they carry. The guy there told me to use primer under the paint. I've got part of a rattle can of self etching primer left and i'll use that if it's ok. Anyway , here's a link to the paint www.plastikote.com/products/Specialty/Wheel-Paint.html

I'm thinkin either the steel or the silver is about the color I want, but before I buy the stuff I'd like to know if anyone here has used Plasti-kote? I like the thought of buying it local so I can run in and get more paint if I run out.
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Put off the marriage for 6 months so you can afford the wheels you want. She won't mind, really.
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Put off the marriage for 6 months so you can afford the wheels you want. She won't mind, really.
That's 1 idea I won't consider. It's not that I'm flat broke-it's just that I don't want to be so that's why I'm trying to do my wheels on the cheap. Your comment took me totally off guard. Very funny.
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Soda blast only strips paint. It doesn't blast the rust away. I wire wheeled the stock steel wheels on my '92. The silver was coming off on it's own. It took no time at all to have my wheels down to bare metal. Sand blasting is best,when you can,but wire wheels does the trick. If you want a smoother surface after sand blasting you just sand the metal. But,sand blasting leaves a surface that grips new paint like nobody's business. Just put a lot of paint on. Etching primer fills a lot of that.
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If you have a lot of trucking industry in your area, you may be amazed at how cheap you can get them blasted. I can get them blasted with a sandblasting attachment on a pressure washer through work for about 10 a wheel. Granted, that is a discounted price, but I think it is pretty cheap even at full price. (I think they run 15 each?)
The better you prep, the better they'll come out.
I understand broke though... if you can't get the rust off all the way, then don't bother with the plasticote or any other special higher dollar products. Just get some rustolium and shoot over the wheel after sanding them. You can clean for free, so grab some degreaser out of the shed and a scrub brush and go to town. When you think it's clean, do it 2 more times.
I would recomend a silver, or a dark silver probably. Like rally wheels or a tic darker.
Don't buy new trim rings. They are made cheap, and still cost more than they should be. Go to the junk yard and look at all the chevy astro mini vans, and all the 88 - 98 chevy trucks. Look at the center caps on all those wheels too. You'll end up buying some kinda expensive lug nuts to mount them properly, but the end result will surprise you big time.
I like the van centers...

Or maybe some of the later model truck centers;



By the time you get done, you may be amazed at how much you have into them. You could go another direction all together... $75 for a salt flats look;
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Thanks a lot , Longhorn Man! I never once thought about hub caps. Trying to decide if I like them... What do the rest of you say? Would they look good on my truck?
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wire wheel on a 4" grinder works good. good spray can primer & paint will last years if you keep them clean
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after looking back up at the truck pics, I somehow missed you had a 4X4... moon discs would look funny at best.
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after looking back up at the truck pics, I somehow missed you had a 4X4... moon discs would look funny at best.
My bad.
I quick jumped on here at work and was in a hurry when I replied to yur previous post. You're right, and it would be a pain to lock in my hubs


I've got a lot of ideas from all you nice folks on this board and I'm still sorting through em trying to decide what to do. I'm leaning toward cleaning with wire wheel/ sandpaper/ degreaser and painting them with rattle can gray or dark silver. I'm wondering , if I go that route, do I need clear coat? I don't think I do but just wanna be sure.

Again, a big thank you to all the ideas given. Now I just need to find time!
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For all the work you are putting into the old wagon wheels I would go to the junk yard and get a set of the 73-87 4wd ralley wheels. By a complete set with trim rings and center caps and you have killed all the birds with one stone. Then sell the wagon wheels on craigslist.
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