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700R4 Died Violently. DFW Tranny shop?
I installed a 700R4 and loved the fun I had the three days I had with it.
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Give Hobarts Performance Trans in Midlothian a call 877-723-9559. They might be able to help you out.
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If you're on the west side, you might try Phoenix Transmission Products in Weatherford at 817-599-7680 or www.phoenixtrans.com.
I have seen their ads in the truck magazines and have talked to a couple of F-body guys that highly recommended them, although the $800 installed price will be hard to beat, especially with a warranty! Good Luck, Kent
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I always use Transmission Headquaters on East lancaster in Fort Worth.
Not the cheapest but very knowledgeable and quick turnaround. Have Fun
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I second the Phoenix transmission shop reccomendation. I went through 3 700R4's in my 69 Camaro with a 468 BBC. I went to them and had a 200R built and installed. It gave me ZERO problems and it got beat on pretty hard. They were good guys and reasonably priced.
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I third Phoenix Transmissions. Friend of mine is running a 450hp 383 through a 700R4, with a 300 shot. Seems to be just fine. He paid a lot more, for his transmission to withstand that much, but they can build you what you need!!
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The guys @ Phoenix said their 700R4 would live behind a 496 w/a Edlebrock RPM top end pkg as long as I didn't bolt up slicks. The quote I got was 16-1700 bucks for everything + upgrades for the tranny cooler.
Scot
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$800 seems kind of low for a 700r rebuild.Especially one for performance.A friend of mine built mine,no charge for labor,and I have over $500 in parts not counting the converter and new trans cooler!
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Hey SCOTI, what did Phoenix say about their 200R? The Buick GN guys swear by their built 200R's in those heavy GN's, and the first/second gear RPM drop isn't as severe as with a 700R. I think I'm leaning toward the 200R myself behind my 454. I mean, I might want to bolt on some slicks, you know?
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I had the 200R and I beat it pretty hard. I was running a 468 and dyno'ed 612 rwhp. I ran slicks a couple times but ran drag radials all the time. I got it installed by Phoenix transmissions so I could get the warranty. I paid $1900.00 and got a complete deal. Tranny, cooler and shifter. I never had to test the warranty and that's why I would reccomend them. I had my old 700R rebuilt 3 times by 2 different shops and still broke it. If you are making good horsepower I'd check out the 200R.
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That's funny . . ... all 4 times I've spoken w/them w/any questions or inquiries, they never mentioned anything about the 200R & I really didn't think to ask.
I have noticed, while looking through my GMHiTechPerf mags, alot of advertisements for 200R's for GN's & late HiPo F-bodies. I never really thought about it but they are similar in weight vs. 67-72's, so I guess the 200R could take the abuse. Only one way to find out. I'll have to make another call & verify some info.
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Another advantage of the 200-4R is it is the same overall length as the TH350, so the length of the driveshaft should not be an issue. I think the mounting point is farther aft, so the crossmember would have to be moved.
Kent
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Does the 200-r4 have overdrive?
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Yes the 200 is an overdrive tranny.
Thanks for all the replies and suggestions. I picked this tranny up for next to nothing then sold some parts which replaced what I spent. So as of now, all I'll have into it is a rebuild. I've spoken to many shops in the last couple days and have narrowed it down to two right now. I still have a couple others to call tomorrow, so we will see how it turns out. It's great having resources like this board and others that I frequent, to get suggestions and opinions. Thanks again. |
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